So, I've done 7/8 of the Rishi missions, and I've noticed something of a pattern to them: Instead of trying to expand on or further a story, they're mainly about trying to remind the player what their class... well, is really about after the slew of Class inspecific content.

 

While I'm ranking them below, I'd like to note something: These are my personal opinions on the missions. If you disagree, awesome! Speak your mind, I love seeing how others view the same thing, what they think of it and why and the like.

 

Oh, and in case it wasn't obvious: Spoilers below. For the record, I haven't played the Sith Warrior one, but I don't expect it to do very much, given what I've heard of it (and my general opinion about the Sith Warrior storyline...).

 

1: Jedi Knight.

 

Admittedly, this may be partly because it was the first of the missions I saw... but damn if it wasn't pitch perfect. No fighting, no killing, no conflict... its a brief meeting with Orgus Din, followed by you trying to make the lives of the citizens of Rishi better in mundane, but important ways. After all of the fighting and the killing (and a good, if too-late, call-back to your time as the Emperor's servant), it was seriously touching to see that, yes, sometimes all that's really needed is to help people out through mundane means, not killing.

 

Orgus Din went out like a boss, no question... but I'm glad that this is going to be the last we see of him, reminding his student of what's really important in life.

 

2: Jedi Consular.

 

There's two elements that work great with this. First, Kutri O'a is an absolutely wonderful character, the kind I hope gets more appearances. Beyond the simple Jedi attitude, he has a warmth and a personality about him that you wouldn't expect from a stereotypical Jedi. And his voice actor, and its so sad that he doesn't seem credited anywhere online, does a wonderful job to inject a minor character with life. Properly handled, he could be a great counterpart to Satele.

 

The other element is obvious: Legacy. That its not just a simple record, but an incarnation of the Consular's personality. There are glimpses of the future, long off, that let you shape how your holocron would be used in difficult situations. It creates scope that, despite only being a few lines of dialog, make the world richer. The only reason its second place is that there were fewer feels when I played it. Otherwise, expertly crafted.

 

3: Sith Inquisitor.

 

There's a ton to love about this. That its going after fascinating technology? Awesome. That it extends your char's lifespan? Epic. The moral choice involved, the only truly effective one in the class missions, where you choose between researching immortality for yourself or keep your forces focused on the Empire's health? Exactly the sort of Sith moral choice that you'd hope for.

 

The only flaw I see really is the execution. The NPC is pretty bland, the effects don't have the visual impact you'd think they would, and Talos' presence, despite being mandated, is so minor... a fantastic idea, just not perfectly executed.

 

4: Bounty Hunter

 

If anything? Its TOO precise. You get called up out of the blue to take vengeance on Crysta's killers... so that you can get sneered at about not being a 'real' bounty hunter anymore by Crysta's kid. I like the concept and the characters involved, and killing off Crysta was a good move...

 

...its just too on the nose, not well executed. That we just hear that she died, that its so blatantly a "Why aren't you taking actual bounty hunting jobs, huh?!" quest... not bad, it just needed more time to work on.

 

5: Imperial Agent

 

This one depends a HUGE amount on how you feel about the supporting characters from the Agent storyline. I like the chars, and that it goes into the Empire's really, really dirty deeds is a good element, but it felt too low-stakes for the Agent.

 

I know it seems weird to say that, given that #1 is the Knight for me, but there was an IC purpose behind the Knight's work on a lower level. The Agent... just tries to save the sanity of an old friend victimized by the Empire. And that's it. I think my disappointment in it is less that its specifically bad, and more that its a waste of potential...

 

6: Smuggler

 

Speaking of a waste of potential... yeah. I like a lot of the design of this. A smuggler going back into crime. Trying to make money while also reflecting their desire to be able to SPEND their money. The temptation of the easy out, a cruise ship to sit out the war in style. Meeting up with an NPC from early in the story who fell on hard times... so much potential...

 

The problem was that the most important character, Beryl Thorne, was...... I'm sorry, but the voice acting was terrible. Her delivery was flat, there was no sense of desperation, of conflict, of pleading... it was just so, so dry, I couldn't get into the story. As much as the Consular story was lifted because of its NPC's delivery, the Smuggler was sunk because the voice actor just could not deliver the lines. A real shame.

 

7: Republic Trooper

 

...I don't know what the hell happened here. There's good bits here, sure. What happened to the troopers is a real tragedy, and I'm glad that it gets called out... but seriously, who decided to revisit stuff we'd already handled? Cleaning up after Garza's f'd up ideas AGAIN? Not dealing with the Empire or the war or anything else, but just having to handle Garza being a complete idiot?

 

The concept of the story wasn't exactly the problem, its just the overuse. Garza creating evil problems with her actions was cliche enough throughout act 1 of the Trooper story, but here it was just too damn much. They shouldn't have revisited the well, that's all I'm saying...

 

 

I did indeed like the Jedi Knight class mission. It felt...Jedi like...more than the Consular (which I did twice).

 

My next Fave tbh as the Imp Agent. Unlike the OP I saw this differently.

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No offense, but too many words.

 

At the end of the day, some manage to recapture what made their class stories amazing to begin with, but ultimately, they fell flat on their face, mostly due to the fact they were just too damn short -- every single one of them.

 

Another issue is the auto-pilot delivery by our characters, which is absolutely infuriating.

Done a few of 'em:

 

 

 

Edited April 19, 2015 by Excise

No offense, but too many words.

 

At the end of the day, some manage to recapture what made their class stories amazing to begin with, but ultimately, they fell flat on their face, mostly due to the fact they were just too damn short -- every single one of them.

 

Another issue is the auto-pilot delivery by our characters, which is absolutely infuriating.

 

Sorry, but every time I see someone say "too many words", it always comes off as "How dare you put effort into your post, just for that I'm not even going to not read it, but I'm going to sneer at you and tell you I won't read it!". Just saying.

 

On topic, I don't think they were all too short. Some were, certainly. The Consular, for example, could've used more stuff to do to create the holocron, the Smuggler mission needed more of a hunt, the Inquisitor mission needed some sort of puzzle in there to make it clear why its not just everyone walking up and getting an extra few years of life expectancy...

 

...but some of them would've been worse if they were longer. The Knight one works great partly because of its brevity. Small, simple actions that make the galaxy better. One of the few bits of the Trooper story I liked was that there wasn't any obvious, story-extending BS thrown in.

 

I think most of the stories would've worked better if they were about twice as long, certainly. But just because they suffered in some regards doesn't mean that's all there is to say about it.

Sorry, but every time I see someone say "too many words", it always comes off as "How dare you put effort into your post, just for that I'm not even going to not read it, but I'm going to sneer at you and tell you I won't read it!". Just saying.

 

On topic, I don't think they were all too short. Some were, certainly. The Consular, for example, could've used more stuff to do to create the holocron, the Smuggler mission needed more of a hunt, the Inquisitor mission needed some sort of puzzle in there to make it clear why its not just everyone walking up and getting an extra few years of life expectancy...

 

...but some of them would've been worse if they were longer. The Knight one works great partly because of its brevity. Small, simple actions that make the galaxy better. One of the few bits of the Trooper story I liked was that there wasn't any obvious, story-extending BS thrown in.

 

I think most of the stories would've worked better if they were about twice as long, certainly. But just because they suffered in some regards doesn't mean that's all there is to say about it.

 

Take as many words as you need to make your point. Some need a few, others need a bit.

 

I think some of the reason why people thought it was too short is because of the fact that we haven't seen any class missions since we left Corellia. After that we've basically been thrown into one-faction-fits-all storylines and we really haven't gotten to experience our characters' roles that they've worked to achieve in Acts I-III.

 

You can also tack on the fact that that sole class quest isn't exactly enough to make the Rishi story (or all of SOR, for that matter) replayable by multiple classes.

So, I've done 7/8 of the Rishi missions, and I've noticed something of a pattern to them: Instead of trying to expand on or further a story, they're mainly about trying to remind the player what their class... well, is really about after the slew of Class inspecific content.

They're 10 minut missions, not exaclty much time to open a new chapter. Opting for an 'epilogue' scenario was a correct decision here and was executed well in pretty much all cases. I liked all the missions, many of them touched on characters/areas in the original class stories that were underdeveloped. Garza being the best example here. She was underwritten in the original story and it doesn't matter if her creating another mess is a rehash. It's the choice we get to make and her actions finally caughting up to her that's improtant. She and the relationship with the Trooper became better, more complex and interesting than throughout all 3 original chapters. In all 8 Rishi class stories there was closure and well-deserved summary to what we did. If there's gonna be a new chapter then it should have much more content (time) to allow to build up. There was no time for that here Edited April 20, 2015 by Pietrastor

#8 Agent

 

 

 

#7 Hunter

 

 

 

#6 Inquisitor

 

 

I haven't played the other five yet, so I'm hoping that they can justify me leaving the top five spots open for them.

Edited April 20, 2015 by eartharioch

For me I like the Consular story best and then the only other one I have done is the Agent.

Inquisitor is my fav ofc as it is my main but...

 

Counselor was pretty good if you listened to the banter you get parts of the story from ALL other classes.

 

Warrior blends very good with main SOR plot.

I did all of them.

 

 

 

 

I'm trying to find a recording somewhere of Bounty hunter class quest. I refused money for it and completed it before bioware fixed the issue that the quest giver reacted to that upon completion. All recordings I saw that used the line where the money is refused also were from prefixed version. Anyone got any idea where I can find the fixed version? I know its only one line of dialogue but that is why I still play all 8 characters, the differences between them.

I've done Jedi Knight, Agent, and Sith Warrior so far. My Trooper's on Rishi but she's kind of on hold while I do DvL with a friend.

 

I quite liked all three of the ones that I've actually done. I won't get into specifics because they're pretty much covered by others' posts. Jedi Knight was my favourite.

As someone who has played all the ones of the Empire's side I have to say that the Sith Inquisitior takes my number 1 hands down as someone who plays as pro-Empire & Alien Sith Lord it really demonstrates how much power you have over the Empire and of course I chose to redirect all of the assets to the Empire's war effort. Edited January 13, 2017 by BenjaminBurdige

The Consular had by far the best of the bunch, IMO.

 

Hopefully they do something like this again with a future expansion.

Since the thread has already been necroed, I'll jump in here.

 

Yesterday I finally did BH and IA to finish the set.

 

What I have to say about the IA one will surprise people, perhaps.

 

See, I didn't (on my first play-through) really like the IA story. It's a not a bad story (if I read an expanded version of it in a longish short story or a shortish novel, it would be OK), but it's not a good MMORPG class story. Or, more accurately, it's not a good SWTOR class story. In the others, even if the overall outcomes aren't often influenced by your actions and your dialogue choices, the flow and path of the local story are. In Chapter 2, for story-coherent reasons, they aren't. The reasons *are* story-coherent, but they remove even the illusion of choice that the other classes have, and I didn't like that.

 

So the Rishi IA quest was a pleasant surprise. The Minister showed the caring-human side of him that we almost never saw during the main class story, and kind of redeemed himself.

 

All the Rish class quests have their good points, although I was a little disappointed by the final wheel of the BH story, since it seemed to not quite offer something I would have gone for. But that's common. (But the quest also reinforces the non-validity for the BH of a question that was posed previously on these forums about the in-KotFE/KotET validity of the classes' pre-carbonite citizenship. The BH was *never* an Imperial citizen, and has multiple opportunities to make that point, including in the entrance to the final Darok/Arkous fight, and in the Rishi BH quest, Crysta's daughter makes the point instead of the BH.)