NateSmuggler Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 What do you guys think is the class that has the simplest DPS rotation but is still viable in endgame? Im a healer that wants a dps toon and want to keep it simple so i can focus on fight mechanics not my rotation. But i also dont want to have the worst damage output. Snipers are NOT an option... too many in my guild right now but all other advanced classes are possible. Thanks for the advice in advanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojottt Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 operative concealment, around 5 attacks, juggernaut vengeance a bit more if i remember, both mercenary trees, and i guess few more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnickerJew Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Pyrotech Powertech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyrmagus Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) operative concealment, around 5 attacks, juggernaut vengeance a bit more if i remember, both mercenary trees, and i guess few more Wat? How is operative concealment easy? It's one of the more complex rotations out there (obviously not marauder-level, but still). Even if the number of buttons may be low (with which I disagree), you have to deal with tactical advantage juggling. I thought PowerTech Pyro was universally considered the simplest right now? Edited August 6, 2014 by xyrmagus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateSmuggler Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 i should mention its for PVE. And i heard Vanguard (also Powertech) is bad on DPS. IS that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid-szhite Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) operative concealment, around 5 attacks, juggernaut vengeance a bit more if i remember, both mercenary trees, and i guess few more Vengeance is way easier. Operative Concealment needs to worry about timing of each of its acid blades to not fall behind on energy, as well as positioning and juggling TA stacks, while the act of using Vengeance's rotation practically tells you which attack to use next. i should mention its for PVE. And i heard Vanguard (also Powertech) is bad on DPS. IS that true? Pfft, no. They're quite good. Wat? How is operative concealment easy? It's one of the more complex rotations out there (obviously not marauder-level, but still). Even if the number of buttons may be low (with which I disagree), you have to deal with tactical advantage juggling. I thought PowerTech Pyro was universally considered the simplest right now? In my personal opinion, Annihilation Marauders are much easier to play than any Operative DPS. Carnage is really the only hard rotation they have (but it is SUPER hard). Edited August 7, 2014 by Vid-szhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastervalkar Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 i should mention its for PVE. And i heard Vanguard (also Powertech) is bad on DPS. IS that true? Vanguard/Powertech DPS is actually rather good. Assault Specialist/Pyro is the #2 overall best single target DPS in the game after Watchmen/Annihilation Sent/Maras after both received buff in 2.8. Both regularly parse over 4000 in the best gear, and as everyone has said, AS/Pyro for Vanguards and PTs is about the simplest spec to play. Tactic/Adv Prototype is also very easy to play for VG/PT. Vigilance/Vengeance Guardian/Jugg is fairly simple (5-6 ability rotation, very predictable). Telekientic/Lightning Sage/Sorc is a very easy rotation as well in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACeMossie Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) In terms of raw power, if you get optimized Dread Masters gear a Vanguard/Powertech in Assault/Pyro has the highest damage potential. However, this is very difficult to do, as you have to choose 2 of 3 things: 1. Reliable Procs2. 100% DoT uptime3. Having resources You can't have all 3. The top parses with Pyro sacrificed the reliable procs, while the sustainable rotation will perform 7-10% worse. SPECS THAT DONT HAVE ROTATIONAL VARIATION DUE TO RNG ELEMENTS Sentinels/Marauders - Focus/RageJuggernauts/Guardians - All SpecsVanguards/Powertechs - Tactics/APCommandos/Mercs - Gunnery/ArsenalSorcs/Sages - All SpecsSins/Shadows - Balance/MadnessOperatives/Scoundrels - Concealment/ScrapperSnipers/Gunslingers - Marksman/Sharpshooter Of these, i'd say either go with a Sorc or Sage with your spec of choice Lightning/TK is especially simple, its use Thundering Blast/Turbulance on cooldown, follow it with a lightning strike/disturbance, and if just before it affliction or weaken mind isn't on the target, use that. Once that priority is done, you use Crushing Darkness/Mind Crush on cooldown, then the procs for quick Lightning/TK Throw and instant Chain Lightning/TK Wave However, if you want more power, you can still opt for the sub-par Pyro spec.Rotationally, you just go: Flame BurstRapid ShotsFlame BurstRail ShotFlame BurstFillerFlame BurstRail Shot Filler is Thermal Detonator if available, Incendiary round if not. Replace flame burst with rocket punch if available. Occasionally take the Thermal Detonator out for resource management purposes. Edited August 7, 2014 by TACeMossie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuku-sama Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 However, if you want more power, you can still opt for the sub-par Pyro spec. Rotationally, you just go: Flame Burst Rapid Shots Flame Burst Rail Shot Flame Burst Filler Flame Burst Rail Shot Filler is Thermal Detonator if available, Incendiary round if not. Replace flame burst with rocket punch if available. Occasionally take the Thermal Detonator out for resource management purposes. That's a rotation???? I thought it was just button mashing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uvirith Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Telecinetics-Sage, its basically maintaining one DoT and one buff, and consume two proccs.Cant get much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuku-sama Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Telecinetics-Sage, its basically maintaining one DoT and one buff, and consume two proccs. Cant get much easier. The old merc (pre 2.0).. TM > TM > TM > TM... Oh and TM again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateSmuggler Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Thanks a whole bunch guys. I have decided to go Pyrotech. Thanks a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halinalle Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Simplest rotation ever will always be Gunnery Commando/Arsenal Mercenary. Tracer Missile/Grav Round -> Heatseeker Missiles/Demolition Round (need to have Heatsignature/Gravity Vortex for maximum damage) --> Use Unload/Full Auto when Barrage/Curtain of Fire procs (100% chance now) --> Rail Shot/High Impact bolt on 5 stacks of Tracer Lock/Charged Barrel. Repeat. That's it. You have to spam Tracer Missile/Grav Round a lot, but it's really simple as you can see. You only use Rail Shot with 5 stacks IF your more powerful abilities like Unload are on cooldown. But the thing is, you get Unload off cooldown every 8 seconds. There's really no time to spam Tracer Missile. It's ok to use in opener between second Unload and Heatseeker/Electro Net. Edited August 8, 2014 by Halinalle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACeMossie Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I actually was trying out the most stupidly easy rotation on my sage before: Spec - 3/7/36 (full crit in seer tree, bonus MC damage in TK tree) Rotation: MC -> WM -> FiB -> SF -> Full Channel TK Throw x4 Without using any offensive cooldowns (Mental alacrity, force potency) it did as well as full TK played optimally. NERF BALANCE!!1!11!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoZaid Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Yea, powertech Pyro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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