I have heard from many people saying that there where lots of different models and variations of gear on Beta, like social medium and heavy armor sets and just much more variety. I am not sure what I have heard is true, but watching trailers for the game makes me wonder because there are many armors on trailers and screenshots that I have yet to see anywhere in the game.

 

I am playing a Jedi Knight and I find it very odd that there are almost no non-hooded armors in the game. Even though most of the trailers and screenshots are of Jedi Knights with armors with their hoods down.

 

So is this true, was there more variety on beta? And if so, why on earth where they removed from the game I wonder, as it seems SWTOR really lacks variety in how people look.

Edited January 29, 2012 by Merwanor

It probably was. I do remember people saying there is gear you can buy with social points but all the social point gear sucks that I have seen.

It's true. They even removed some gear during patches like the level 50 blue pvp set that was on coruscant.

Yes there was

 

There was also style/color matching to your chest-piece

 

Also companion customization slots where a full override for your companions outfit also, and there where more of them.

 

Your companion also started with a fully mod-able weapon, it was nice.

 

 

 

But a lot of the beta niceties are there to either hook players into buying or make life easier. I think about 3 vendors disappeared from Coruscant.

A lot of titles also disappeared from beta to release.

So is this true, was there more variety on beta? And if so, why on earth where they removed from the game I wonder, as it seems SWTOR really lacks variety in how people look.

 

I should think they want to give themselves some "headroom" to gradually introduce some of the already-made extra variety down the line - as perks, as parts of expansions, additions to crafting, etc., etc.

 

Or it might be that some of the items/vendors were causing problems in one way or another, and they wanted less variables in the equation at launch.

 

Or it might be that they want to save some things for a "cash shop" in the future.

 

Or some combination of these.

 

Apparently I am not the only one who remembers that there was something like an appearance tab too, back in the betas at the end of 2010. Presumably Orange gear replaced the apparance tab because it was blended with crafting (mods, etc.).

Edited January 29, 2012 by gurugeorge

It's true. I know this for a fact because Sith Marauders had quite a few awesome hooded-robes in the Beta, but good luck finding a single one of them now.

A hell of a lot of things vanished during beta.

 

I've been in a few beta tests where they added things over time but this is the first time i've seen things taken away at such a rapid pace.

 

If anyone remembers Bullseye, darts show from the 80's in the UK, it was a bit like that at the end.....

 

"Lets see what you could have won".

 

Just to rub it in. BioWare giveth and BioWare taketh away.

Reading all these posts is making me sad, I can't believe a company like Bioware could do something like this. I have always praised them as one of the best game developers out there.

Wow, I never knew they did this. Classic bait and switch for sure and they should be ashamed for doing it.

If anyone remembers Bullseye, darts show from the 80's in the UK, it was a bit like that at the end.....

 

"Lets see what you could have won".

 

Just to rub it in. BioWare giveth and BioWare taketh away.

 

Reminds me of a show called Let's Make A Deal. You would win a pig or goat and then they would show you the car you could have won.

Edited January 29, 2012 by tmpearson

In a word: Yes.

 

As others have said, they removed a lot of options and choices from beta in just about every aspect of the game.

 

I will say, though, that I don't personally recall any non-light social gear.

Yup in beta there was light side and dark side armor sets for classes as well and they looked dam awesome.

A hell of a lot of things vanished during beta.

 

I've been in a few beta tests where they added things over time but this is the first time i've seen things taken away at such a rapid pace.

 

If anyone remembers Bullseye, darts show from the 80's in the UK, it was a bit like that at the end.....

 

"Lets see what you could have won".

 

Just to rub it in. BioWare giveth and BioWare taketh away.

 

I remember the most common question in beta before new patches/builds was "What'd they remove this time?".

 

EAware hyped this game as being all about "choice", and then systematically removed anything and everything they could to limit that "choice".

Edited January 30, 2012 by Zorvan

I bet they were testing features that they are going to introduce in the future.

I bet they were testing features that they are going to introduce in the future.

 

I'm still betting on the inevitable cash shop.

I guarantee you every single thing they removed will be included in some kind of content patch.

I guarantee you every single thing they removed will be included in some kind of content patch.

 

Of course. Only it won't be called a "patch", it'll be called an "expansion". And there'll be a fee attached.

They also removed almost all of the low lvl pvp gear.. There used to be a lot of gear that you could get from doing warzones at lover lvls starting at like lvl 13 and with new pieces every lvl or so all the way to 50. Now we're stuck with a set at 20 and one at 40..

 

This really sucks because I planned on leveling some alts only doing the class quests and warzones.

Edited January 30, 2012 by lefffen

They also removed content as well. Ravaged reconstruction and the quest area for it on Taris as been removed and blocked off, only the cloner droid remains outside where it was.

They also removed a lot titles (Conqueror of Balmorra/Corellia, Champion of House Thul, Imperial Scholar, etc). I remember when a patch took those away (and I was USING one), and when I saw it was gone, I almost cried a little Edited January 30, 2012 by Darth_Vicente

WHY Bioware WHY?!

EAware;

 

Loaded gun in pocket, check!

Smoking hole in pants, check!

Bloody hole thru foot, check!

Dual wielding, check!

I love Bioware.

They also removed content as well. Ravaged reconstruction and the quest area for it on Taris as been removed and blocked off, only the cloner droid remains outside where it was.

 

Was that the big Mando heroic area? The heroic that took longer than most FPs? I did my class quest and bailed on Taris as quick as possible this last time (was trying to catch up to a friend), so I didn't notice.

 

I liked that area. It was a nice, challenging 4 person heroic.

 

They also removed a lot titles (Conqueror of Balmorra/Corellia, Champion of House Thul, Imperial Scholar, etc). I remember when a patch took those away (and I was USING one), and when I saw it was gone, I almost cried a little

 

I, too, was using one of the titles that were removed.

Edited January 30, 2012 by Vodalus