Aleeha Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 BioWare you did a great job with the "companion" concept. You made an "MMO" where I can level to 50 and I NEVER have to interact with the "community" at all. Need a tank? No problem, I can summon him. Need a healer? No problem, I can summon him. Need a dps? No problem, I can summon him. You do NOT need the community at all until you hit 50. There are plenty of players now who are running hardmode Flashpoints with just 2 people and their companions, not all of them but some. And the second BEST #winning part about companions - I NEVER have to be bothered going out into the galaxy and "immersing" myself with it to "gather items to craft". I can just send my "companion". Yeah, I can see what you guys did there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archifikoss Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 You make it sound like it's a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 BioWare you did a great job with the "companion" concept. You made an "MMO" where I can level to 50 and I NEVER have to interact with the "community" at all. Need a tank? No problem, I can summon him. Need a healer? No problem, I can summon him. Need a dps? No problem, I can summon him. You do NOT need the community at all until you hit 50. There are plenty of players now who are running hardmode Flashpoints with just 2 people and their companions, not all of them but some. And the second BEST #winning part about companions - I NEVER have to be bothered going out into the galaxy and "immersing" myself with it to "gather items to craft". I can just send my "companion". Yeah, I can see what you guys did there.. Wrong. I would love to see you solo level appropriate [Heroic 4] and [Heroic 2+'s] (some classes can do the 2+'s) by yourself. I would LOVE to see you two man Hardmode flashpoints with the intended gear level to run it. I would also love to see you run Ops with a companion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetalink Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 how is that a bad thing you have the option to run with more or less..... OPTION see the thing about options is they allow CHOICE and the thing about choice is it rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddickcz Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 You make it sound like it's a bad thing. LOL are you kidding? OFC its a bad thing in so called MMO game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetalink Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Wrong. I would love to see you solo level appropriate [Heroic 4] and [Heroic 2+'s] (some classes can do the 2+'s) by yourself. I would LOVE to see you two man Hardmode flashpoints with the intended gear level to run it. I would also love to see you run Ops with a companion. also this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katharis Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Which begs the question: which companion is most like Charlie Sheen? I'm only familiar with the ones that go with Consular, Smuggler, and the first one the Imp Agent gets, so I'm going to have to go with either Risha or Kaliyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthKong Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 BioWare you did a great job with the "companion" concept. You made an "MMO" where I can level to 50 and I NEVER have to interact with the "community" at all. You mean, like, how they marketed the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 LOL are you kidding? OFC its a bad thing in so called MMO game. What is with people beating the dead horse called "This isn't an MMO! Waaaah." Please, point me to a mass-market MMO that you CANNOT reach level cap by yourself. Any content beyond that requires groups. Warzones (you're in a group), Flashpoints (you're in a group), Operations (you're in a group), Heroic 2 and 4's (you're in a group), multiple datacrons that require...*gasp* grouping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbanite Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 LOL are you kidding? OFC its a bad thing in so called MMO game. Well don't use your companion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inseeisyou Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Get your tank companion to tank a HM FP and then get back to us. Edited February 3, 2012 by inseeisyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleeha Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Wrong. I would love to see you solo level appropriate [Heroic 4] and [Heroic 2+'s] (some classes can do the 2+'s) by yourself. I would LOVE to see you two man Hardmode flashpoints with the intended gear level to run it. I would also love to see you run Ops with a companion. Clearly you didn't read my post and I'll reiterate what I said just for you, I do NOT ever need to group with another player to reach level 50 in this game. I have the aid of companions. Does that make it a little more clear now for you? The point is while companions aren't a bad idea they do NOT bring the "community" together and build "community". It's the same thing in WoW, I can go from 1-85 in less time than it takes to go from 1-50 and I do NOT ever need to group with another player to do it. So the only time that I really ever need to get involved with the community is when I hit 50. Edited February 3, 2012 by LexiCazam Rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelakh Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Wrong. I would love to see you solo level appropriate [Heroic 4] and [Heroic 2+'s] (some classes can do the 2+'s) by yourself. I would LOVE to see you two man Hardmode flashpoints with the intended gear level to run it. I would also love to see you run Ops with a companion. Are either of these necessary and required to get to level 50? No. The OP is absolutely correct. I am currently level 34 and have done a single (NM) flashpoint with my guild. The rest I've done myself. I really have no desire to do the exact same thing (Flashpoints and Heroics) over and over again because there's nothing else to do once you reach 50. I've never understood the complacency that one must have in order to say, "I've done this before, just yesterday, but now I'll do it again," or "I just did this yesterday, but I'll do it again - only this time with much more difficulty." And I'll get to level 50 and can do it without doing a single Flashpoint or Heroic if I so desire. ToR is designed as a single-player game with the option to have a handful of people with you if you chose. The OP is 100% correct. Edited February 3, 2012 by Stelakh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Clearly you didn't read my post and I'll reiterate what I said just for you, Special Snowflake, I do NOT ever need to group with another player to reach level 50 in this game. I have the aid of companions. Does that make it a little more clear now for you, Special Snowflake? The point is while companions aren't a bad idea they do NOT bring the "community" together and build "community". It's the same thing in WoW, I can go from 1-85 in less time than it takes to go from 1-50 and I do NOT ever need to group with another player to do it. So the only time that I really ever need to get involved with the community is when I hit 50. Oh please. You would be crying on the forums if you were forced to group up to achieve level cap. I fail to see how being able to hit level cap solo is a bad thing. You can play at your own pace, experience your own story, and you have the OPTION to group up if you so desire. Edited February 3, 2012 by Naroga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddickcz Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well don't use your companion What kind of **** advice is that? The whole leveling is around companions. You cant finish Your story without companion. the whole point is that this game is supposed to be an MMO and isnt. Everybody knows that so just deal with it. Its decent solo rpg game in SW universe, but it has WAY too far from MMO. Companions were great, I agree that its the best companion implementation ive seen in any game so far. But the fact is they cause you not needing to group with ppl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notebene Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Wait... So I can blame being fat on McDonalds? Sweeeeet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 What kind of **** advice is that? The whole leveling is around companions. You cant finish Your story without companion. the whole point is that this game is supposed to be an MMO and isnt. Everybody knows that so just deal with it. Its decent solo rpg game in SW universe, but it has WAY too far from MMO. Companions were great, I agree that its the best companion implementation ive seen in any game so far. But the fact is they cause you not needing to group with ppl. Everybody knows you're wrong. I can make baseless claims too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddickcz Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Everybody knows you're wrong. I can make baseless claims too. Oh baseless you say.. Open your eyes my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archifikoss Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 LOL are you kidding? OFC its a bad thing in so called MMO game. No, it's not a bad thing. Companions help you out when you CBA/can't find a group for whatever reason. And if you manage to solo heroic 4 mans, frankly you're a damn good player and deserve to do so. Also, even if you can solo 2 mans or duo 4 mans, it will be quicker and more efficient to do so in a proper team of 2 or 4 players respectively. As for sending them out to gather mats, you can always go look for the nodes yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelakh Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I have no idea why this post went to the forums. Apparently, I should pay attention to which window I'm typing in. Carry on. (Waves hand vaguely) You don't see this post. Edited February 3, 2012 by Stelakh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Oh baseless you say.. Open your eyes my friend. Well, let's see. Post-launch the forums were full of whiners crying about how bad the game was, predicting its doom, and expecting it to go F2P in a couple of months. Two days ago, EA releases a 2 million copies sold sales figure with 1.7 million active subscribers. Whose eyes aren't open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 How could is possibly be bad to not need other players? People are there if you want them to, you could lvl from 1 to 50 and do every single quest together with someone else. So either non at all or everyting. What more do you want? Because im fairly certain thats about as far as the range of options would go. Or do you suggest forcing people to quest together? I am sure you are going to love playing with people who do not want to party and rather solo. I am confused now...what is the point of this thread again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicWanderer Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) This "MMO" is in-fact an "MMO". Just "because" you "choose" to not interact with "others", does not mean it is not an "MMO". I suggest that you join a "guild", it really "helps" with finding "friends" and "comrades" to do things with in-game. Good "luck"! Edited February 3, 2012 by AtomicWanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kauhu Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 There are plenty of players now who are running hardmode Flashpoints with just 2 people and their companions, not all of them but some. Perhaps if they both AND their companions are already in full raid gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naroga Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 How could is possibly be bad to not need other players? People are there if you want them to, you could lvl from 1 to 50 and do every single quest together with someone else. So either non at all or everyting. What more do you want? Because im fairly certain thats about as far as the range of options would go. Or do you suggest forcing people to quest together? I am sure you are going to love playing with people who do not want to party and rather solo. I am confused now...what is the point of this thread again? They are grasping at straws. They can no longer say the game is hemorrhaging subscribers, so instead they say that it isn't <X> <Y> and <Z> and Bioware "lied" to them. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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