Dev Post KeithKanneg Posted September 7, 2017 Dev Post Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hey all, Recently, we have had more maintenances than normal. This was compounded by our update issues last Thursday which led to over 10 hours of maintenance. Thursday’s issue along with the extra downtime have impacted all of our playtime, and they especially are bothersome when you consider how much XP and CXP you lost from the Double XP/CXP event was running along with the over the top CXP for Daily Areas. So, to make sure your characters can take advantage from both, here’s what we going to do: Since the Double XP/CXP event ended on Tuesday, we’ve decided to bring it back earlier than planned. That is, we had scheduled to make it available in December around the holidays, but it’ll return with the launch of Game Update 5.5. That will give you another full week to benefit from the event.The Daily Area bug is also going to stick around for a few weeks. As Eric mentioned in another post, our plan was to fix it next week in another patch, but we’ve decided to hold off any changes until Game Update 5.5. I’m personally leveraging this as a means of playing my other toons and raising their Command Rank to 300. Honestly, it’s been a lot of fun seeing so many other players taking advantage, too.It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. Again, I want to thank you all for your patience the past couple of weeks. Keith--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangenee Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 That'll do nicely. Now if you could just fix my agent....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Great, thanks for listening to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YlliyaXor Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Thanks! When will 5.5 be inflicted upon us? I hope this doesn't mean double cxp/xp for xmas is cancelled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirUrza Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. I still think you guys should leave them where they are right now. It's bringing people back to the content the same way credits and the alliance system brought people back to the Heroic 2. The level scaling system made it so that we don't steam roll the content. If you're going to do anything, look at scaling the Section X Heroic 4 down to Heroic 2 so people can solo it with a companion properly instead of slogging through Heroic 4 mobs and then ignoring the bonus boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deewe Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Hi Keith, I finally got one of my 18 alts to 300 and I can compare the fun with the holocron grind in SWG. A waste of time and a totally unfun and way too repetitive process. The late bugs and bonuses made the process a bit less tedious. That being said it was great to see people on those areas and also grouping with random people. For once the game felt an MMO. Before leaving, thanks for the plaster, though we still have a hemorrhage to treat. Edited September 7, 2017 by Deewe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elssha Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Please, please, *please* don't add an RNG element to it like the current highlighted activity. Being able to plan things for guilds is important, and the RNG makes it impossible to get groups going for activities and monopolize or even run proper events. Be it a weekend ops marathon (but what if the day after ops are the highlight?) or organizing an RP event or other stuff people would normally be down for but cancel so they can grind warzones or something else that's highlighted. The random nature really screws with guilds/communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangenee Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I still think you guys should leave them where they are right now. It's bringing people back to the content the same way credits and the alliance system brought people back to the Heroic 2. The level scaling system made it so that we don't steam roll the content. If you're going to do anything, look at scaling the Section X Heroic 4 down to Heroic 2 so people can solo it with a companion properly instead of slogging through Heroic 4 mobs and then ignoring the bonus boss. I'll tack on a rider to this, ALL the heroic 4s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. Keith--- I'm very pleased to hear this Keith...thank you!!! I hate that it'll end ever, but I appreciate that you're extending the "bug" a little while longer - it has been the best thing to happen to the game since 5.0 dropped...and that's saying a lot from me because I really appreciate the Ops bosses and the new FP...but this is bringing players back, something the other two things didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deewe Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 If you're going to do anything, look at scaling the Section X Heroic 4 down to Heroic 2 so people can solo it with a companion properly instead of slogging through Heroic 4 mobs and then ignoring the bonus boss. I'm far from a power player and I can solo those heroics with either my merc dps or my soc healer and a companion. The fights are tough but at least enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie_Swift Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hey all, Recently, we have had more maintenances than normal. This was compounded by our update issues last Thursday which led to over 10 hours of maintenance. Thursday’s issue along with the extra downtime have impacted all of our playtime, and they especially are bothersome when you consider how much XP and CXP you lost from the Double XP/CXP event was running along with the over the top CXP for Daily Areas. So, to make sure your characters can take advantage from both, here’s what we going to do: Since the Double XP/CXP event ended on Tuesday, we’ve decided to bring it back earlier than planned. That is, we had scheduled to make it available in December around the holidays, but it’ll return with the launch of Game Update 5.5. That will give you another full week to benefit from the event.The Daily Area bug is also going to stick around for a few weeks. As Eric mentioned in another post, our plan was to fix it next week in another patch, but we’ve decided to hold off any changes until Game Update 5.5. I’m personally leveraging this as a means of playing my other toons and raising their Command Rank to 300. Honestly, it’s been a lot of fun seeing so many other players taking advantage, too.It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. Again, I want to thank you all for your patience the past couple of weeks. Keith--- Thank you! GREAT move from your part and hope to enjoy SWTOR now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casirabit Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I still think you guys should leave them where they are right now. It's bringing people back to the content the same way credits and the alliance system brought people back to the Heroic 2. The level scaling system made it so that we don't steam roll the content. If you're going to do anything, look at scaling the Section X Heroic 4 down to Heroic 2 so people can solo it with a companion properly instead of slogging through Heroic 4 mobs and then ignoring the bonus boss. It can be soloed with a companion. I have done it on my sage and scoundrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerba Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Unfortunately, I no longer believe you, Keith. The past few months, you were adamant on not removing the grind although players begged you to remove it, and now you suddenly changed your opinion? Sorry, I'm not buying it, I think you're not telling us the full truth. I ran the dailies a few times last week and it was a horrible experience. When there were other players in the area, I invited them to group so we wouldn't have to fight over quest objectives, but they all declined and would rather wait for the respawns. It showed me how much harm 4.0+ has done to the community, where players can solo everything and no longer need to group up, and it made me so sad I'd just log off. You write that high CXP is motivational, but why exactly should I level my alts to rank 300? Even with the increased CXP, it is still RNG. The optimal path to get gear continues to be VM ops for 242 gear and then PvP to 248, or just straight up crafting 246 gear. The 5.0 goal of "play whatever you want and get rewarded" is once again ignored. I like dailies, in the right dosage. Running all dailies for multiple days on multiple alts is not fun. Meanwhile, other activities don't give nearly as much CXP, so there's no point doing anything other than dailies for CXP. Once again, my raid group is keeping me subscribed to the game, but if it weren't for them, I don't think I'd continue sticking with SWTOR. It's not fun anymore. Edited September 7, 2017 by Jerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fushnchips Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hey all, Recently, we have had more maintenances than normal. This was compounded by our update issues last Thursday which led to over 10 hours of maintenance. Thursday’s issue along with the extra downtime have impacted all of our playtime, and they especially are bothersome when you consider how much XP and CXP you lost from the Double XP/CXP event was running along with the over the top CXP for Daily Areas. So, to make sure your characters can take advantage from both, here’s what we going to do: Since the Double XP/CXP event ended on Tuesday, we’ve decided to bring it back earlier than planned. That is, we had scheduled to make it available in December around the holidays, but it’ll return with the launch of Game Update 5.5. That will give you another full week to benefit from the event.The Daily Area bug is also going to stick around for a few weeks. As Eric mentioned in another post, our plan was to fix it next week in another patch, but we’ve decided to hold off any changes until Game Update 5.5. I’m personally leveraging this as a means of playing my other toons and raising their Command Rank to 300. Honestly, it’s been a lot of fun seeing so many other players taking advantage, too.It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. Again, I want to thank you all for your patience the past couple of weeks. Keith--- Thanks hey what about the respawn times to 15secs of daily items going back and seeing some of the respawn timers are killing me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmorrisson Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Overall CXP rate should also be increased alongside allowing us to purchase Tiers III, IV, Dark and Light gear with Command Tokens. (There are way too many currency types in game.) Remove the hourly Dark vs Light update fanfare. The server selection page should indicate which servers are Light or Dark with a CXP Buff awarded to players whose share that server's side of The Force side. Below is CXP Command Rank CXP Tier Table provided to Dulfy upon 5.0's release last December. Note upon reaching Tier II the player needs > 4000cxp just to reach next rank. Then at Tier IV the players needs ~5000cxp for new random gear pack. CXP Command Rank Tier Table: http://i.imgur.com/WzdoZ9c.jpg Even with Summer Event's two event rates (Double what is is now, almost Quadruple the initially released rate) there will still be some grind unless 100% boost tokens are used. Edited September 8, 2017 by jimmorrisson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abigfishy Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thanks Keith this is awesome news. I have had a lot of fun doing stuff I haven't done for years and perhaps shame on me some of those planets I have never done. (Still haven't done Zoist!) Unlike what some other people have said here I had no trouble grouping with others and it is great that the bottom part of CZ is instanced. Positives: Much less grindy Doing content that I haven't touched for years Doing some new content (for me) Seeing other players Grouping with other players FINALLY the game is a bit more alt friendly Negatives: It will end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangenee Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I have to say Tier 2 has definitely been underwhelming so far. Same crap, different tier. Anything I've got has been a marginal upgrade at best. Out of maybe 20 crates, I'll be on tier three before I get anything worthwhile at this rate. The bug mitigates this slightly as at least it's a shorter wait between eye rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTheGlutt Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I ran the dailies a few times last week and it was a horrible experience. Yep every day past week you get some muppet not willing to wait their turn and just ninja the quest objective. Even had some guy shout at me insisting im using exploits when im just standing there waiting for an item to respawn so i can complete a daily - And thats after I waited until midnight to do the damn things hoping everyone had gone to bed! I despise dailies that have open world objectives. Make the objective instanced or permanently spawned. Otherwise all they do is generate toxic environments for everyone. Adding another "event" I do not see as compensation for my downtime my main alts are all 300 so it means nothing to me - Adding a week to my subscription time I do see as compensation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingusPho Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thank you so much, Keith! This cxp increase has been the most rewarding experience (aside from running around with my guild) I've had since the game launched. I can set and achieve clear goals this way unlike the slow grind that preceded it. It actually fuels my desire to play the game because, you know REWARDS lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggeh Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Idea: You want people to do old content. Have a group finder for flashpoints/ ops/ WZ's where the rewards are the crazy high level that they are for the dailies right now. Think of it as like.. mercenary moshpit from Call of Duty games. You queue up and it puts you in a queue for something entirely random but gives insane rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEnrique Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. I think it has already been stated but it bears repeating, just leave this be, it's a good bug that doesn't need fixed. Edited September 8, 2017 by DarthEnrique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediLarson Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Unfortunately, I no longer believe you, Keith... Yea, I’m coming around to this way of thinking… ...Even with the increased CXP, it is still RNG... The RNG isn’t “exciting” Getting an extra 10, 50 or even 160 crates* is still crappy RNG junk. The RNG percentage at 300 is so #$%@ low and pathetic, it – well, it’s beyond insanity at this point. *yea, I had 2 tabs full of T4 crates saved up for when the cxp bug and double cxp event was going to end so I could enjoy opening them when the crap cxp was back. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel_p Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thank You for leaving this in place... The CXP grind is kind of a punishment for being a ALT-aholic in SWTOR.... thank you for leaving this and making it easier....got about half my alts above tier 2 for CXP now... Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thanks! When will 5.5 be inflicted upon us? I hope this doesn't mean double cxp/xp for xmas is cancelled... You just know they had it planned for December because of "more tiers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santafaye Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hey all, Recently, we have had more maintenances than normal. This was compounded by our update issues last Thursday which led to over 10 hours of maintenance. Thursday’s issue along with the extra downtime have impacted all of our playtime, and they especially are bothersome when you consider how much XP and CXP you lost from the Double XP/CXP event was running along with the over the top CXP for Daily Areas. So, to make sure your characters can take advantage from both, here’s what we going to do: Since the Double XP/CXP event ended on Tuesday, we’ve decided to bring it back earlier than planned. That is, we had scheduled to make it available in December around the holidays, but it’ll return with the launch of Game Update 5.5. That will give you another full week to benefit from the event.The Daily Area bug is also going to stick around for a few weeks. As Eric mentioned in another post, our plan was to fix it next week in another patch, but we’ve decided to hold off any changes until Game Update 5.5. I’m personally leveraging this as a means of playing my other toons and raising their Command Rank to 300. Honestly, it’s been a lot of fun seeing so many other players taking advantage, too.It is very clear everyone is really enjoying higher rewards on the older Daily Missions. As a result, we are exploring some options such as increasing CXP values above their base rewards, making rotating daily objectives worth high bonuses, and more. We will let you know where we land on these discussions, but one thing is for certain, higher CXP values are very motivational. Again, I want to thank you all for your patience the past couple of weeks. Keith--- ty ..you guys rock ..i can rock a couple of my story character through now ..ty again my friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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