sir_shenanigans Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Hi everyone! I am Captain Winger, a dirty fighting gunslinger on Jung Ma. I've been playing this game since launch and figure that I should give something back to the community. There are lots of new players around so I figure I should help them out and hopefully improve the quality of pvp matches. I have made 2 videos which explain some important details on how to play a dirty fighting gunslinger. Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgr9qVBcnQM Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEhjqb2jGm0 IMHO dirty fighting is the BEST tree for gunslinger and snipers in PVP. It allows for the highest DPS, mobility and versatility in being able to fight and win against most other classes. I don't say much about why I think it is the best tree in the videos, so I'll say here that I have tried all three trees extensively and have found that for PVP, DF is the king. You don't have to worry about people line of sighting you as much because you only rely on wounding shots channels rather than aimed shots and charged bursts. You can be incredibly mobile and still do tons of damage, you can kite people, and you don't have to be a turret. I have hit 900k damage in a voidstar in this spec with lots of healers and idiots who stand in flybys, so trust me when I say you can pump out the damage in this spec. Furthermore, the burst from wounding shots is insane. People who tell you sharpshooter has higher burst than dirty fighting haven't watched someone melt after 1 channel of wounding shots. The first video explains my spec and the second is a commentary on a Novarre Coast I played against an 8 man imp premade. Finally, if you feel like watching me play more, I stream from time to time on twitchtv - http://www.twitch.tv/jayguyk01. I will bump this thread when I stream to let people know when I'm live. Cheers! Edited February 15, 2013 by sir_shenanigans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashuranrx Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Winger! My inspiration to make a Gunslinger! I played on Ven Zellow too and then transferred to Jung Ma. I made my main a Gunslinger ever since I watched you played on VZ. Are you back as a subscriber for good now? I stick with Sharpshooter after trying out all 3 specs. I couldn't get Dirty Fighting to work right. Can you show a video of how you handle DPS Operatives and Assassins who jump on you as a DF? I found that I have a good fighting chance as a Sharpshooter against Operatives and Assassins, but not so much as Dirty Fighting. My character name is Embery by the way, see you in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whetstone Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Nice guide! It almost makes me want to play dirty fighting again. Almost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seefouruno Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) IMHO dirty fighting is the BEST tree for gunslinger and snipers in PVP. It allows for the highest DPS, mobility and versatility in being able to fight and win against most other classes. I don't say much about why I think it is the best tree in the videos, so I'll say here that I have tried all three trees extensively and have found that for PVP, DF is the king. You don't have to worry about people line of sighting you as much because you only rely on wounding shots channels rather than aimed shots and charged bursts. You can be incredibly mobile and still do tons of damage, you can kite people, and you don't have to be a turret. I have hit 900k damage in a voidstar in this spec with lots of healers and idiots who stand in flybys, so trust me when I say you can pump out the damage in this spec. Furthermore, the burst from wounding shots is insane. People who tell you sharpshooter has higher burst than dirty fighting haven't watched someone melt after 1 channel of wounding shots. Cheers! Sharpshooter has amazing burst and 40% accuracy reduction is actually very good group utility, not to mention I think that DF has awful energy management. Edited February 16, 2013 by seefouruno clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_shenanigans Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Winger! My inspiration to make a Gunslinger! I played on Ven Zellow too and then transferred to Jung Ma. I made my main a Gunslinger ever since I watched you played on VZ. Are you back as a subscriber for good now? I stick with Sharpshooter after trying out all 3 specs. I couldn't get Dirty Fighting to work right. Can you show a video of how you handle DPS Operatives and Assassins who jump on you as a DF? I found that I have a good fighting chance as a Sharpshooter against Operatives and Assassins, but not so much as Dirty Fighting. My character name is Embery by the way, see you in game. Hey Embery. I remember you from VZ. I'm playing on and off and am subed right now. Been having a League of Legend binge lately. You should fight that dirty fighting is better than SS against assassins with DF because their combat stealth is rendered useless because of dot protection. You can also melt their defence because all of your damage is internal. Operatives are hard as DF, against a good one maybe unwinable. I'll post a video of some duels against assassins and ops (who I can beat from time to time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_shenanigans Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nice guide! It almost makes me want to play dirty fighting again. Almost! Thanks Vic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_shenanigans Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Sharpshooter has amazing burst and 40% accuracy reduction is actually very good group utility, not to mention I think that DF has awful energy management. The 45% accuracy debuff might be okay if the debuff lasted longer or the cooldown on the ability was shorter. IDK most classes do yellow damage and have 115% special attack accuracy on those attacks, so 45% debuff puts them at 70% special attack accuracy. So it helps, but meh. DF has higher burst. Wounding shots channels are insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashuranrx Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Please show duel videos of you as DF against Lursa (Scoundrel) and Tsukiyomi (Shadow) from <Credit Shot>. They are superb opponents. I know the game is not about 1v1. I just want to watch and learn how to react as DF when well-played stealth classes jump on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_shenanigans Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Hey I'm streaming right now 10:48 3/6/2013. Come watch as my guild and I play some ranked warzones on Jung Ma! Edited March 7, 2013 by sir_shenanigans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mateushanai Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Ty for this. Good stuff man. But could u go further into the pvp gear optimization? How much crit do you have? Do you bother with accuracy at all or should i just swap everything for power? Edited March 23, 2013 by mateushanai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystbladeWA Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Good guide mate, the content is solid. I'd suggest attempting to put future vids up at better quality tho. HD is where its at for gaming vids. You gotta be able to see the buffs, mods, gear clearly if its to be of optimum use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthOnansi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I think some general gameplay with tips would be a nice touch for future videos. And stats would be appreciated to. I am also a Jung Ma'rian Raith/Reyer (Fellow Credit Shot member as well) On Raith I run Marksman I feel you can stand back and just let the burst numbers come in continuously it does require alot of careful positioning all the time though. I do love my dirty fighting though on both Chars (Raith = Gunslinger, Reyer = Scoundrel). Nice to see a good guide out there. Cya in game buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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