LenrocNewDawn Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 In one match of huttball (pre 50) I've come across a lvl 11 sith assassin that hit my lvl 39 trooper for aprox 2850 points of damage in one blow. In an 1v1 fight I lost to him doing what I'm usually doing and it wasn't a balanced fight. He stomped my face in. Before you start with the derogatory comments I just want to ask other fellow Assassins if that sound OK from their more experienced POV. Reason for the thread is that it looks odd for such a low level char to be able to land hits that big given that their access to trinkets and adrenals is very limited. Same match a lvl44 sniper hit me with takedown for 1.5 k. I'm aware of the bolster system, still..... For the record I'm not thinking OP when we talk about a lvl11 char. I'm more prone to think cheat. Please constructive comments. Or not...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatchV Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) The bolster system also takes gear into account ( I think ) so if that lvl 11 went and bought a bunch of blues, it's like he's your level with much better gear. Also, pvp adrenals now increase damage dealt and reduce damage taken by 15%. He might have used one of those. Edited May 1, 2012 by RatchV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename_Quincy Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 assassins are pretty strong against troopers anyway. wait til you try dotting them at 50. just spam hammer shot and cry for help tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Post a combat log, or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyronmarkz Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 of course it can happen shadow strike and the imps equivalent can hit up to 3.5k crit so yeah early level they're a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Post a combat log, or it didn't happen. You were not joking around when you said this would replace SS or vid or it did not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenrocNewDawn Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 About the combat log.. I forgot the exact name of that guys char and looking through a combat log that contains 3 hours of game-play with war-zones and questing is a daunting task. If you don't believe me that's up to you and I understand your position but I have not come here to lie or get comfort (that would be a fools mistake). On a side note that guy also placed second in damage done with about 190k damage. P.S. I'll keep looking for him in my war-zones and if I see him I'll make sure to write down his name . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 In one match of huttball (pre 50) I've come across a lvl 11 sith assassin that hit my lvl 39 trooper for aprox 2850 points of damage in one blow. In an 1v1 fight I lost to him doing what I'm usually doing and it wasn't a balanced fight. He stomped my face in. Before you start with the derogatory comments I just want to ask other fellow Assassins if that sound OK from their more experienced POV. Reason for the thread is that it looks odd for such a low level char to be able to land hits that big given that their access to trinkets and adrenals is very limited. Same match a lvl44 sniper hit me with takedown for 1.5 k. I'm aware of the bolster system, still..... For the record I'm not thinking OP when we talk about a lvl11 char. I'm more prone to think cheat. Please constructive comments. Or not...... commando's/mercs are the weakest and easiest class to kill right now the reason for this is they are balanced compared to the other class's this class lacks utility and defense which makes gunnery balanced as they are easily killed, they have the damage but are squishy defenseless easy to kill which is how nukers should be. assasult specialist needs more defense as its pretty useless lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 bolster makes low levels hit hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wikar Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 My guessing of bolster "work" (stats are just speculations): * 10 lvl - multiply stats for 10x (green geared have 140 main stat - result 1400 main stat, purple geared have 145 - result 1450) * 15 lvl - multiply stats for 6.3x (green geared have 200 main stat - result 1230 main stat, purple geared have 230 - result 1449) * 20 lvl - multiply stats for 4.1x (green geared have 250 main stat - result 1025 main stat, purple geared have 350 - result 1435) * 30 lvl - multiply stats for 2.6x (green geared have 350 main stat - result 910 main stat, purple geared have 550 - result 1430) etc. Main idea is bolster putting you in line with current level in "best" gear for everyone else, hovewer when you exping, you hardly even switch an old lvl green gear, not even talking to put purple in every slot, so low level in greens indeed hit very hard with bolster, since he is top-geared for his level. Same happens with 40 lvl pvp orange gear - you are most powerfull with this gear while 40 lvl, and loosing bolster boost as you level up until 49, with much lower stats than you have at 40 lvl - since your gear is not actual anymore for your 49 lvl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepilk Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Yeah, the bolster system can be brutal. Other than ammount of specials and skill points at your disposal it pretty much nullfies level as a factor in warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberfairy Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Same stuff the other guys are saying. At level 11, he can have the best gear for his level for about 10k credits at most, probably more like 2k credits, so the bolster is giving him better stats than you have. On the other hand, you have more skills and talent points to take advantage of. The problem in this case is the assassin has his backstab skill which hits really hard, and access to a talent that increases its damage substantially (ignores 50% armor or something.) At that level, assassins and shadows have access to some of their best damage skills. Also worth noting, I did top damage in a huttball, 240k with my level 10 merc, I think most of it was just auto attacks and combustible gas cylinder dots.... maybe some rail shots and rockets, but seriously you can pack a huge punch at low levels, you just don't have access to a lot of utility skills and talents. Being a higher level in that bracket you have to learn how to best use your high tier talents and skills to your advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApotheosisLanyx Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 lol I was hitting for 3k+ on most targets from level 10-20 on my sin. I still do frequently at 35. backstab is insanely overtuned at lower levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duanesmi Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 ive done it on my assassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsisus Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 bolster makes low levels hit hard Gotta love my Lvl20 Sniper doing 4k+ crits on level 4x's. Oh wow do they cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digtahk Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Sins don't gain as much from the bolster system as other classes, snipers and powertechs seem to come out the box ready for action. Ambush seems to do more damage at level 10 than at level 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenrocNewDawn Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 Oki, thanks for the replies guys. I guess it wasn't out of the ordinary and I was biased by my experience with him. o7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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