cashogy_reborn Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Outside of WZ: http://i.imgur.com/kcZJ78c.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/O8c0M6A.png Inside WZ:http://i.imgur.com/o7wTvhT.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/BUBsTdY.png This is with purple reflex 28 augs in all but 2 slots, and Obroan earpiece, implants and relics. There is no excuse for not having competitive stats in WZs, and there is no excuse for having <2018 expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckeyduckey Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Well damn. Gearing is now 10x easier, and even more borked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystbladeWA Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Is this with green/blue/purple lvl 46 modifications? Or does it not matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Is this with green/blue/purple lvl 46 modifications? Or does it not matter? I used blue, I am not sure if it matters. Edited February 7, 2014 by cashogy_reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikassi Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 ouch, your graphics look horrible .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 ouch, your graphics look horrible .. This is my laptop....... and this is also 100% irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Damn you, I am enjoying lvl'n my lowibes in pvp and you just make it seem so worthless lol! However, you must understand that noobs are noobs for a reason. They may not be to the point of researching online as of yet. You can't expect a noob to know about this crap. The other points you have made about this in previous threads I do agree with though. Edited February 7, 2014 by DarthRaika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) This can not be intended by design, it must be some kind of bug but BugWare will not be able to address it for at least one more year... Question: The best PvP weapons in game today are same or better or worse inside a WZ? Because I have the best PvP weapons and pretty much a full set of best PvP gear -working on mods an enhancements now- and I still get bolstered damage wise upwards. Edited February 7, 2014 by Cempa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savej Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Outside of WZ: http://i.imgur.com/kcZJ78c.png http://i.imgur.com/O8c0M6A.png Inside WZ: http://i.imgur.com/o7wTvhT.png http://i.imgur.com/BUBsTdY.png This is with purple reflex 28 augs in all but 2 slots, and Obroan earpiece, implants and relics. There is no excuse for not having competitive stats in WZs, and there is no excuse for having <2018 expertise. And the response from BW on this is "we'll look into it" followed by months of cricket noises ... very discouraging. Edited February 7, 2014 by Savej Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeHovah Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This is just plain dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vildiil Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Is this with green/blue/purple lvl 46 modifications? Or does it not matter? Purples don't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Outside of WZ: http://i.imgur.com/kcZJ78c.png http://i.imgur.com/O8c0M6A.png Inside WZ: http://i.imgur.com/o7wTvhT.png http://i.imgur.com/BUBsTdY.png This is with purple reflex 28 augs in all but 2 slots, and Obroan earpiece, implants and relics. There is no excuse for not having competitive stats in WZs, and there is no excuse for having <2018 expertise. Yeah this is the norm now everywhere, Tech and Force that I tend to see. When EA hires incompetent Coders/Devs, this is what we get. I'm sure Eric will have "combat guy" post a 500 word essay that reinforces my thoughts above. Edited February 7, 2014 by Pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyMcNeely Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What surprises me the most is that you haven't had a flood of people trolling your post telling you that it really doesn't make a difference and if you're losing it's a learn-to-play issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralParmesan Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Don't worry they will just delete this thread and pretend nothing happened. IF they were going to stop bolster bugging, they would have a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaraExas Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Outside of WZ: http://i.imgur.com/kcZJ78c.png http://i.imgur.com/O8c0M6A.png Inside WZ: http://i.imgur.com/o7wTvhT.png http://i.imgur.com/BUBsTdY.png This is with purple reflex 28 augs in all but 2 slots, and Obroan earpiece, implants and relics. There is no excuse for not having competitive stats in WZs, and there is no excuse for having <2018 expertise. hold up...the entirety of your right side pieces are blue 46s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turretboy Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Looks worse than what it really is in the OPs pictures because outside of the warzone he doesn't have the Inquisitor and Warrior buffs. Regardless its still a very stupid bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) hold up...the entirety of your right side pieces are blue 46s? Yes. Helmet, Chestpiece, Gloves, Leggings, Boots, Belt, Bracers and MH/OH are all filled with blue 46s. Looks worse than what it really is in the OPs pictures because outside of the warzone he doesn't have the Inquisitor and Warrior buffs. Regardless its still a very stupid bug. What you should be comparing the "in WZ" stats too are the Obroan/Conqueror level stats. For example, my Commando which is fully augmented, Obroan relics, implants, earpiece, mh, 2/3 oh, belt, bracers, boots, and Conqueror Helmet, Chestpiece, leggings, and gloves (all the gear that used to be on my Merc I moved to my commando) has 850 ranged/1430 tech bonus damage, 25% crit, 75% surge multiplier, and 31.7k health in exactly the same spec. For a tiny fraction of the time investment, you can get ~95% of the base stats of end-game PvP gear by using low level items. Edited February 7, 2014 by cashogy_reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missandei Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Dont see any problem.It could be an issue only to the people who go to WZ not to have the fun from PvP but out of the «grind instinct». Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaraExas Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 wow... just wow.... anyway, yeah, you're right. nobody has the gear excuse to fall on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missandei Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Looks worse than what it really is in the OPs pictures because outside of the warzone he doesn't have the Inquisitor and Warrior buffs. Regardless its still a very stupid bug. Could you elaborate what the bug is and why you are concerned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 Dont see any problem. It could be an issue only to the people who go to WZ not to have the fun from PvP but out of the «grind instinct». And yet I see people every day enter Regular Warzones and Solo Ranked not equipped properly for PvP. And when I offer up suggestion on how to easily do it, Im told to fk off. And it is an issue b/c it all but eliminates the need for actual PvP gear to PvP. Which would be fine if the gearing system was structured around that; but it is not, and this is a massive loop-hole. There is no substitute for PvE gear in end-game, yet a massive double standard is allowed to exist. I am not even using the 69/63/61 stuff for my MH in this test bc I dont feel like investing the time/credits to get those components, but it would make my base damage and ranged bonus damage even greater than shown in this test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_Xerxes Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So for about 100 planetary coms you can all but ignore the endgame PvP gear grind. Sounds like gear means **** in PvP once your lvl 45 and only skill is left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_Xerxes Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I am not even using the 69/63/61 stuff for my MH in this test bc I dont feel like investing the time/credits to get those components, but it would make my base damage and ranged bonus damage even greater than shown in this test. 69/66/58 works fine fine and is inexpensive to get. On a Merc it puts ranged damage at 1800+ top end and Tech at 1480 ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyMcNeely Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Sounds like gear means **** in PvP once your lvl 45 and only skill is left. Not at all. It means that anyone can spend a minimal amount of credits/planetary comms and obtain a slight gear advantage over people that spent a ton of their time and effort obtaining top-tier PvP gear. In a contest of equal skill, the advantage goes to the player sporting mid-level PvE gear. If it sounds like I'm supporting a gear gap, I'm not. I actually hate grinding for gear. But SWTOR was designed, built, and marketed as a GEAR-DRIVEN MMORPG. This entire game is structured around the gear treadmill and now there's a way around it. Not only can you avoid it altogether, you can actually place yourself in a better position than the folks who geared according to the game's design. That kind of bad design tends to leave a foul taste in peoples' mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not at all. It means that anyone can spend a minimal amount of credits/planetary comms and obtain a slight gear advantage over people that spent a ton of their time and effort obtaining top-tier PvP gear. In a contest of equal skill, the advantage goes to the player sporting mid-level PvE gear. If it sounds like I'm supporting a gear gap, I'm not. I actually hate grinding for gear. But SWTOR was designed, built, and marketed as a GEAR-DRIVEN MMORPG. This entire game is structured around the gear treadmill and now there's a way around it. Not only can you avoid it altogether, you can actually place yourself in a better position than the folks who geared according to the game's design. That kind of bad design tends to leave a foul taste in peoples' mouths. This is the best expression of the problem here that I have seen in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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