Qhue Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Why is it that the Artifice bind-on-pickup Rakata quality and Operation dropped 'purple' Relics have no stats on them? I currently have a 'blue' Relic that gives 270 power as a clicky effect but also +52 endurance and the level 50 'purple' version that drops in an Operation has 300 power as a clicky effect (same cooldown mind you) but ZERO endurance or any stat of any kind. The Rakata version is up to 380 power, which is a significant increase over the 'blue' as a clicky effect but then again most Rakata gear already is a significant increase by its very nature and so I would expect the click effect to be quite high AND to have Endurance on the item. Quite simply 520 hit points isnt worth the additional power on a 2minute cooldown. (Not to mention that the Bind on Pickup Artifice Relics are utter crap compared to the Biochem created infinite use stims/adrenals/medpacks...but thats a question for another day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightmgl Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Why is it that the Artifice bind-on-pickup Rakata quality and Operation dropped 'purple' Relics have no stats on them? I currently have a 'blue' Relic that gives 270 power as a clicky effect but also +52 endurance and the level 50 'purple' version that drops in an Operation has 300 power as a clicky effect (same cooldown mind you) but ZERO endurance or any stat of any kind. The Rakata version is up to 380 power, which is a significant increase over the 'blue' as a clicky effect but then again most Rakata gear already is a significant increase by its very nature and so I would expect the click effect to be quite high AND to have Endurance on the item. Quite simply 520 hit points isnt worth the additional power on a 2minute cooldown. (Not to mention that the Bind on Pickup Artifice Relics are utter crap compared to the Biochem created infinite use stims/adrenals/medpacks...but thats a question for another day) I know its a side to what you were saying but the Biochem Adrenals are a separate item/cooldown from relics. There are non BoP one time use Adrenals that Biochems can make for other people, they're meant to be the equivalent of a "DPS Potion". I really hope the epic relics not having passive stats is an oversight. If it is intended its really dumb. Edited January 11, 2012 by Lightmgl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonV Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I noticed that too. As a PvE healer it's not much of a deal to lose some Endurance for me, but it simply doesn't feel they are as intended. Are there purple tanking relics with +Endurance on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helanar Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 As a Jugg tank I looted a purple relic that has a pretty hefty defense rating clickie effect.. with no endurance. So it's currently sitting in my inventory looking nice and purpley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwynta Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah, I think that the epic quality relics that come from raids and champion bags are itemized way too low at the moment. The "rare" quality relic from collecting matrix shards for willpower users is 58 Will, 50 End, and 24 crit, whereas the Rakata power relic averages out to be around 63 power if you use on cooldown 100% of the time (380 power X 20 second uptime / 120 second cooldown). 63 power is not even close to the 58 willpower your get for having the matrix cube relic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Sarkis Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 you can get an exceptional proc and get an augment slot on them, making them slightly better, but yea still a little underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurugar Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 you can get an exceptional proc and get an augment slot on them, making them slightly better, but yea still a little underwhelming. Can you post a SS for confirmation? This would be great, but I dont want to waste my last alloys if this doesnt turn out to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohrazer Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 its the same with the pvp epic relics, no endurance makes them basically useless as pvp items, what gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Sarkis Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/hou4Q.jpg there ya go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Sarkis Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 bumping for the world to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotsky_tor Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/hou4Q.jpg there ya go! Except that that only matters if you're Artifice, since all the purple relics are BoP. Or, I suppose, if you grind artifice up to 400, make one of those, then drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibaken Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Except that that only matters if you're Artifice, since all the purple relics are BoP. Or, I suppose, if you grind artifice up to 400, make one of those, then drop it. As far as I know every crew skill that can make a Rakata-level BoP item can have it proc an Augment slot. I know I read it's true for Synthweaving's bracers/belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munx Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Check darthhater, they got some info on 1.1 changes, rakata relics will have 77 stat/secondary stat points while columni will have 72 Sadly it seems like bioware still fail to realise t3 weapons are bugged to ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotsky_tor Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 As far as I know every crew skill that can make a Rakata-level BoP item can have it proc an Augment slot. I know I read it's true for Synthweaving's bracers/belt. Yes, but this topic is about relics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarachis Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The bonuses they apply are much larger than other relics with stats, and they are neutral alignment. That said I will NEVER use them, I am not giving up that much endurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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