Okay I have played around with talents and gear, My assualt spec vanguard in 61 rated gear pumps out 1950.9 dps in pve while playing light movement. Found out how to get my crit with hib to 50% of time, and 41% tech crit, power is about 1000 and surge is at 77% while accuracy is at 98-99%. How did i get my HIB crit so high , using BM gear with 61 armoings to get the eliminator set bonus of +15% and add on to that the smuggler 5%. On parser while pveing im always at the top, pvp i am on the top almost everytime unless there are focus spec jedi using sweep crits in aoe times.

Found that the biggest dps booster in assualt spec tree is picking up adrenaline fueled x2 and dropping burnout 2% tech crit doesn't help much in that my tech crit chance is already at 41% ( not fully buffs , dont have stim or 5% aim bonus buff) I do pick up the 3/3 aim increase from shield tree, also pick up the 9% elemental crit from tactics as well as the blaster augs because 1 point in there give you 3% tech crit.

with adrenaline fueled , the reason why its a dps boost is because the reduce cooldown on reserve powercell, I use it to pop a free incendiary round, i can get a free one every 50% (meaning I have to manage a 3 ammo loss then the next time i need to pop one its free, then i have to manage 3 ammo lost and the next one is free), this helps manage ammo very well as I dont have to hammershot as often. with such a high crit chance, every 1.5 GC im reducing the CD of RPCell down by 6 seconds. Ion pulses do 2k dmg almost always a crit , and plasma cell ticks everyone IP and so ends up doing in total 3.5k dmg per GD with HIB hitting 4.6-4.9k crits every 6 seconds, with additional armor debuffs on mobs/bosses HIB hits for 5k+.

dont mind my english as i dont care, jsut wanted to get this out there as i dont see anything new about vanguards,

Also i tank with my vanguard i have 55% armor dmg reduction, 17% defense chance , 56% shield and 58% absorb (this is with power screen) i have dread guard relic that boosts absorb to 73%. and my shield gives my 85% dmg reduction to energy and kinetic. All 61 mods with hazmat leggings so 63 mods in my pants.

How good is my vanguard or am i sucking balls and should be getting 2k plus dps?

PVE spec is http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hMhZMsZfG0bdGhr.2

PVP spec would be like http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hMhZMsZfhrbdhhr.2

Got a new spec which i can pump out 2300 dps

try it out http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hMhZMZfhMbdGhrs.2

edit; now this spec is iffy, i try it sometimes and can get it just right to pump out high dps ; however most of the time it sits around 1900dps, don't know why.

PVE spec is http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hMhZMsZfG0bdGhr.2

 

PVP spec would be like http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hMhZMsZfhrbdhhr.2

your pvp assault spec doesn't include assault plastique? seems like you are losing out on a good amount of burst damage

your pvp assault spec doesn't include assault plastique? seems like you are losing out on a good amount of burst damage

Might be losing that 5k crit on AP, but my HIB crits 56% of the time for 4.8k anyways and my IP with PC proc hits for 3k, I find, i do more just spaming IP and HIB,

I should try it and find out,

Also with Vanguard DPS, I found I could have 2300dps or 1500 dps depending on whether or not HIB proc goes off after 6 seconds , I have noticed that I could waste all 12 ammo trying to get it to proc.

Do most people run assault plastique in their pve dps specs? im a new 50 vg and i havent had a chance to test it yet but it feels like a dps loss to me that doesnt really fit into a rotation.

The most popular specs I've seen run without Assault Plastique and instead opt for getting both the 9% Aim from Shield Specialist in addition to the 5 points you're putting into assault anyway.

The most popular specs I've seen run without Assault Plastique and instead opt for getting both the 9% Aim from Shield Specialist in addition to the 5 points you're putting into assault anyway.

Thats what im running right now(i also dropped adrenaline fueled), when i get geared i plan on testing it but due to the Hib proc mechanic the only time in a rotation it seems beneficial to throw the plastique is right after a free hib proc since it has a 6sec internal cd. but sometimes that is time you need to hit hammer shot to keep your ammo up.

Do most people run assault plastique in their pve dps specs? im a new 50 vg and i havent had a chance to test it yet but it feels like a dps loss to me that doesnt really fit into a rotation.

It is a dps loss in pve. It is better in pvp, because it provides more burst. In pvp, it is better to have short-term burst than sustained damage, because it is more difficult to heal. In pve, sustained damage is better. Whatever gives you more damage over a course of 6 min is generally better. There are times in which burst is necessary, but the burst phases are long enough to make short-term burst obsolete to high amounts of constant damage. Most who run without assault plastique run an 8/6/27 build. There are variants such as 7/6/28 that provide basically the same amount of damage.

It is a dps loss in pve. It is better in pvp, because it provides more burst. In pvp, it is better to have short-term burst than sustained damage, because it is more difficult to heal. In pve, sustained damage is better. Whatever gives you more damage over a course of 6 min is generally better. There are times in which burst is necessary, but the burst phases are long enough to make short-term burst obsolete to high amounts of constant damage. Most who run without assault plastique run an 8/6/27 build. There are variants such as 7/6/28 that provide basically the same amount of damage.

Yeah, 8/6/27, 7/6/28, 8/5/28, all about the same, 8/5/28 is probably the worst. I'm currently in 8/6/27, but I do so like burnout.

For pvp though, you want to run 7/3/31 or 4/6/31 usually. AP's damage is actually delayed by 3 seconds, so if you go AP->SS(or IP)->HiB, the AP and HiB land at the same time, which can be very hard to heal through.

Update

This spec rocks dps charts in PVP

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801hMhZMsMZfhrbdhhM.2

Can't wait till 2.0 and have our explosive surge pop plasma cell proc, going to be OP, I can just see it.