peroxsigh Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 With guild, chat, general chat, experience gains and loot all popping up on my chat, I will NEVER say what is being said in the /say. In fact, the reason /general is so popular in SWTOR vs other games anyhow is because no one is confident that they will be noticed in /say. I will admit, when standing directly in front of someone, i will /1 instead of /say in order to speak to them. The game needs chat bubbles. Deal with it. it is only a form of spam if you are close enough to the person to see a bubble appear. If not chat bubbles, show some indication that the person have written something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thodra Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Any news, if they are planing to add it to the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glzmo Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Any news, if they are planing to add it to the game?Good question. I haven't heard anything. Perhaps people that have a twitter account should ask on the swtor twitter, as they seem to answer questions there more than on the forums. I myself don't have one, so I can't do that, but it may be a good way to steer awareness to the issue. Edited December 29, 2011 by Glzmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberData Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Have to agree with optional chat bubbles. Sorry for all the anti-chat bubble peeps, but you need to deal with it. We're only asking for OPTIONAL chat bubbles. In SWG, EQ2 & WoW you could disable them in the options. I never did, because I love chat bubbles. It's a great way to contextualize who's saying what in an area visually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoubti Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I remember the droids at the starports that spammed ads in SWG. And the people that afk spammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garjhon Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 People who complain about chat bubbles ruining their immersion should go play a single player game or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neinnunb Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Chat bubbles are needed. I got used to them in SWG. It makes it much easier to see when someone is trying to call for a heal or something like that. For socializing its also fun. It's a moot discussion if you like them or not as long as it's an option. It's a win/win situation so I can't see any reason why not to introduce this feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nysm Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'd be happy to see if they add chatbubbles because I'd only use it for say and party and disable for everything else. Spending hours playing the game doing quests makes me completely ignore chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkimor Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 its not a standard feature, in fact not many mmo's have this feature and thats a relief, bloody hate chat bubbles appearing everywhere. totaly no need for them. That's what we want a toggle for them, so that people can switch between the two. Fact is a LOT of people want them very badly. I support this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubacca Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Chat bubbles are needed. I got used to them in SWG. It makes it much easier to see when someone is trying to call for a heal or something like that. For socializing its also fun. It's a moot discussion if you like them or not as long as it's an option. It's a win/win situation so I can't see any reason why not to introduce this feature.I agree whole heartedly. Where are the chat bubbles? An option to enable them should be added ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkalevil Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Count me in to support chat bubbles. It's rather incredible that it wasn't ready at launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMasterRP Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Yes, indeed, chat bubbles are necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar_Eire Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 YES, YES and YES!! It's so hard to tell if someone is talking to you. Please add chat bubbles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDWORK Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Would love to see this as at least a toggle option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramyth Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I find this baffling. The last MMO I played that had chat bubbles was The Sims Online.... XD Is there really that big of a demand for them? As long as it's a toggle, and I don't have to see a single chat bubble, then I'll support it for people who want it but consider my mind blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor_atomic Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 There was a gathering in a cantina yesterday and it was impossible to keep track of who was saying what, the chat screen was scrolling at super speed. We need the option for chat bubbles so we can have conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidza Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 In this thread: People who never drove a car. On the serious side I wouldn't mind them chat bubbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwloehr Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I loved the chat bubbles in SWG. I think they do add to the experience and hope BW adds them in soon. However, there should be an option to turn them off since there are those that disagree. Its easy enough to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kugalojan Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 please please oh please add chat bubble already! At least give us the toggle option for those of us who wants and needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBSlide Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Please add these. It was funny, me and this other guy were on chat yesterday trying to find someone to run the same heroic. After a minute we realized we were standing right next to each other. Yeah, chat bubbles are really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glzmo Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 There was a gathering in a cantina yesterday and it was impossible to keep track of who was saying what, the chat screen was scrolling at super speed. We need the option for chat bubbles so we can have conversations.Indeed. Roleplaying or even socializing in busy areas is practically impossible right now without chat bubbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glzmo Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) People who complain about chat bubbles ruining their immersionI understand that some people claim that chat bubbles ruin immersion and thus simply can't understand how chat bubbles actually improve immersion and the roleplaying experience in a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. I myself was once such a player, a great many years ago. Let me try to explain why chat bubbles actually improve immersion for me and many other roleplayers. With chat bubbles, you can actually keep your eyes on the characters and action in the game and see which character on the screen near you says and does what. You don't have to take your eyes of the happenings in the game world and you don't have to figure out which character on the screen is which visible character on the screen the blurb of text that appeared in the chat window in the /say, /yell or /emote chat channel belongs to. In addition, the chat window in crowded areas often moves way too fast and one misses many things that happen there, especially when you're occupied with the action on the screen. Also, chat bubbles help you see if somebody says something to you in the same situation. During beta (I was a regular general tester), it happened to me very often during the course of the beta that my character said something and was ignored because other players didn't see what I was saying because they weren't focused on the chat window. It was very frustrating, but I missed a lot of things other players said during beta as well. And it never got better during all the time I tested (I thought I might be able to get used to it at first, but I simply wasn't able to - even re-organizing chat tabs/windows and moving them to more visible positions that were still out of sight enough to not disturb the main action on the screen didn't help). Sure, it would be way more immersive if we had text to speech (in your character's preferred voice) combined with proper spatial audio postioning and appropriate character animations (these should be added to improve chat bubbles, too) when a player characters speaks. However, text to speech technology is nowhere near ready to sound natural. But even with a text to speech option, we'd still need optional chat bubbles for people with hearing impairments or simply for people that play in places where they can't enable sound for whatever reason. But what about voice communication, you say? Well, the problem with voice communication is that you may not sound like you want your character to sound. Yeah, it's the same pen & paper roleplaying games, but if I had a chance to alter my voice enough to sound like I want my character(s) to sound, I'd do it in a hearbeat. Also, voice communication may not be an option for some players with various audio/vocal impairments. This means until text to speech technology matures enough to sound natural and be usable in games like this without big performance issues, chat bubbles are the only way I know of to keep immersion upright when engaging in social roleplay with other people without making communication between players around you too cumbersome. Of course, even text to speech technology won't help players with certain types of impairments, thus keeping an option to turn on chat bubbles would even be desired in such a case. I myself was sceptical about chat bubbles in a Star Wars game when I first started playing Star Wars Galaxies 8+ years ago. But I quickly grew to love them, as they improved my character's communication with other player characters so much and actually immersed me into the Star Wars Universe much more than I thought I would ever be capable of in a MMORPG. They actually helped the multiplayer roleplaying aspect of the game tremendously. That's why I kept subscribed to SWG and roleplaying in it from launch in Summer 2003 - during all the tough times of Publish 9, the CU, the NGE and so on - and will play it until the very end on December 15, 2011 which coincides with TOR's early access. Personally, I am very much hoping to be able to do the same in The Old Republic and remain subscribed from the beginning to the very end of the game. But without chat bubbles, it simply won't be possible for me, as I simply can't enjoy roleplaying without chat bubbles in a MMORPG. Sure, chat bubbles aren't anything you'd expect from a Star Wars Movie or cartoon. But there are also some pretty good Star Wars comics. They also have speech bubbles in them and a great many of them still feel like Star Wars. Just a thought that may help some sceptics, but it won't help all of them. As a roleplayer, sometimes you just have to suspend your disbelief a little bit to allow for game mechanics that will improve the quality of your time spent in a game. If you don't like to use chat bubbles in any way, however, you should always be able to turn them off on your client, as players have been asking for a client-side option to enable chat bubbles for spatial chat (/say, /yell, /emote, etc.). All the threads about chat bubbles underscore the desire of players to add an option to turn on chat bubbles. It is a fact that many players (no matter if roleplayers, PVEers, PVPers or others) simply can't pursue their chosen playstyle without chat bubbles and actually need them to be able to enjoy the game. They should not be denied that option. Edited January 2, 2012 by Glzmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frigidman Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Let me try to explain why chat bubbles actually improve immersion for me and many other roleplayers. *snip impressive post for brevity* I have to say, that was one of the best, in depth, explanations about why those who like chat bubbles, enjoy and want them. I really hope the developers are watching this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubacca Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Let me try to explain why chat bubbles actually improve immersion for me and many other roleplayers. A very well thought out in depth explanation why Chat Bubbles are needed in any modern MMORPG. Thank you for taking the time for your long post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orotho Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Quite a few threads about this topic inhere now, sorry to see still no mention of it from devs. Bumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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