Rasen Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 "The Hutt Cartel is in shambles.." I'm sure they'll bounce back given the popularity of the cartel market and the strength of cartel coins as a galactic currency Plus they control the GTN and have an entire wing of each faction's fleet to themselves. HUTT POWAH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Plus they control the GTN and have an entire wing of each faction's fleet to themselves. HUTT POWAH!!! This is inaccurate... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02BqLmpDVNc#t=00m18s In other words, there are those Hutts who work independently of the regular Hutt Cartel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasen Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 This is inaccurate... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02BqLmpDVNc#t=00m18s In other words, there are those Hutts who work independently of the regular Hutt Cartel. But isn't the Cartel Bazaar separate from the BBA? While it may host it it is not one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoomazir Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I really like those kind of posts involving the lore and the npcs, Bioware should do them more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) But isn't the Cartel Bazaar separate from the BBA? While it may host it it is not one in the same. Concerning the BBA, I always assumed they were one and the same, especially after the events on Makeb, where the Republic took - supposedly - control of most of the Hutt Cartel's assets. This is further reinforced in this latest "State Of The Galaxy": (...) Absorption of the bulk of the Hutt Cartel’s assets after the Makeb debacle brought only short-term gains, and only after the substantial expense necessary to bring those Cartel operations in line with Republic interests and legal codes. (...) Many elements of the Cartel that weren’t directly absorbed into the Republic by force are continuing to operate, but with almost no direct cooperation or coordination beyond the continued use of the “Cartel” name. http://www.swtor.com/blog/state-galaxy Besides, if they work independently of the main Hutt Cartel, why would they even share a whole area with them? Edited April 7, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ymotobuck Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 anyone else notice that this could also be setting us up to fight against the shroud and it's forces at a later date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBlackJack Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I've beaten the game with at least 3 characters and I still feel like I didn't pick up half the stuff on this thread. Also, I'm still confused as to how each of the individual story-lines connect. For example, are the Republic stories all connected? If so, do these stories conflict with the Imperial story-lines? Or is it that all 8 story-lines happen together and there's 4 heroes on both sides? An example of this issue would be the emperor dying. He's supposed to be killed in the knight story-line isn't he? In the sith story-lines I've played he's either alive or only a controlled body of him was killed. So I really don't know how to look at the story, or how it was intended to be viewed. There are two major storylines There is the class storylines from 1 - 50 and there is the Faction Storyline thats from 1 to Endgame. Both Story arcs interact with each other and all class stories happen at the same time. The Knight Destroyed the Emperor's body after the Warrior released him from Voss returning the Emperor to his slumber. The Emperor is still alive and if you have a level 55 warrior, you will get a special mail tomorrow after finishing the 2 new flashpoint from "an Old Friend" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBlackJack Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) This is untrue. As mentioned SEVERAL times already, the Voice is not the Emperor's main body but actually a part of his essence, an entity he created in order to inhabit other beings, who act as vessels while his TRUE body is supposedly safe from harm. This is pointed out SEVERAL times during the SW storyline. * See videos * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX71v9H70Q#t=08m23s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX71v9H70Q#t=21m04s This is actually incorrect An interview with Hall Hood with TORWars shortly before Rise of the Hutt Cartel came out confirmed that the Knight destroys the emperor's body but he also stated that it was not his original body, that his true body was destroyed long ago. HIs spirit still remains and he sleeps as an entity until he gains his strength Edited April 7, 2014 by MisterBlackJack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Darth Marr? He looks like the level 50 jug I haven't used since 2012.. You shouldn't have killed Malgus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 That was a certainly interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakugo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 and then there's the possibility of WX being alive still. Oh, and I like how they're giving us an in-game heads up on the state of things regarding both heads of state. Marr is ruthless, efficient and completely without ambition for the Emperor's throne. An excellent war-time leader, so I foresee something bad happening to him. Sad, really. i know right if they, have that feeling too, if they do that imma be pissad pissed and sad at the same time lol Darth Marr? He looks like the level 50 jug I haven't used since 2012.. You shouldn't have killed Malgus. and noo, your warrior looks like HIM. not other way aroundd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) This is actually incorrect An interview with Hall Hood with TORWars shortly before Rise of the Hutt Cartel came out confirmed that the Knight destroys the emperor's body but he also stated that it was not his original body, that his true body was destroyed long ago. HIs spirit still remains and he sleeps as an entity until he gains his strength No offense to Hall Hood, who wrote most of the JK storyline which is by far my favorite in the whole game, but he wasn't the lead writer for the Sith Warrior storyline. Plus, like I mentioned earlier, here are the videos from the GAME itself... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX71v9H70Q#t=08m23s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX71v9H70Q#t=21m04s If you want to contribute, do so by presenting something in the game that clearly states OTHERWISE. Until then, what I said earlier remains. In other words, to be blunt, I am not incorrect. Edited April 8, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishWinterfell Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 There are two major storylines There is the class storylines from 1 - 50 and there is the Faction Storyline thats from 1 to Endgame. Both Story arcs interact with each other and all class stories happen at the same time. The Knight Destroyed the Emperor's body after the Warrior released him from Voss returning the Emperor to his slumber. The Emperor is still alive and if you have a level 55 warrior, you will get a special mail tomorrow after finishing the 2 new flashpoint from "an Old Friend" I think I get it now. So, on Alderaan, winning it for either the republic or empire would be faction specific, because any republic or empire character can perform these missions? But on the same planet, all the class specific stuff takes place across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manweth Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 It pleases me to see an update on storylines such as this. It gives us an idea as to where we currently stand in the long scheme of things ICly (for those that RP) and what we may be gearing up for. Also, SUPER happy the Empire is gaining some form of figurehead. I feel offing Malgus really hurt the game. You always need the evil and good guy, ya know? Malgus was the poster boy. Now, lets see Marr be what he was! Not very into PvP, but still excited! Marr has always been Malgus' superior, along with many others. The dude is basically the head of the entire Sith army, he had to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaliedo Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Went from discussing political situations and overall state of both Empire and Republic to 'oh by the way there's also this new hutball arena that looks interesting' lol, just seems so out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibobpipop Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Nice read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katushe Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Excellent read. As a PVE focused player, the direction really makes me happy. But this: Remember - your deaths are useless if they do not inform. is the best line of the entire article. Really nice read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damask_Rose Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 "Asset R-31 was killed while attempting to negotiate the purchase of potentially-incriminating holorecords from Chancellor Saresh’s time on the planet Taris. The seller was also killed." My fervent hope is that the Empire and Republic will unite to destroy the evilness that is Saresh! Besides, it's time the Republic lost someone high up for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooperclay Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Ze plot she thickens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooperclay Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) "Asset R-31 was killed while attempting to negotiate the purchase of potentially-incriminating holorecords from Chancellor Saresh’s time on the planet Taris. The seller was also killed." My fervent hope is that the Empire and Republic will unite to destroy the evilness that is Saresh! Besides, it's time the Republic lost someone high up for a change. life of a BH... Edited April 13, 2014 by Trooperclay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOodBnar Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Jedi knight kills Emperor's main body, his Voice. Since this was second time he lost his Voice in a short period of time, Emperor almost collapsed, to the point he had to abandon his Children. But he is alive. As for jedi, they are unaware of his true form (force entity), so they (and everybody else) believe that they actually killed him in Dark Temple Technically, the classes do not run concurrently. I'm not sure as to the full order, I just know that Inquisitor happens before Warrior. And Knight may be the very last one. It's the greater events that show this off. When the Emperor loses his body, he starts possessing people (voices) which Barras tries to pass himself of as. Meaning the Emperor we see on the Throne in that spacestation the Knight is brainwashed on has to die before a certain part of Warrior can occur Maybe someone should map the class quests. We have big spanning events that are present in each class-run. Fixed points as it were (Ilum is a fixed point (each class arrives at the same time. Meaning each class quest story has to have ended and they have to be there at the same time But nothing stops the Inquisitor main quest line to start a year or so before the Warrior one does. Since we get a few cutscenes showing off the Inquisitor just sitting around in bars and on his ship that could be seen as time-jumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive_JV Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I am pretty sure that the warrior's story ends before the inquisitor's Because Thanaton is there when the warrior ends Baras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I am pretty sure that the warrior's story ends before the inquisitor's Because Thanaton is there when the warrior ends Baras This is correct. Regardless, previous user post is such a garbled mess that one is not even sure where to begin, beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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