cxten Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Its both their dots and their WS that eat our stacks. As long as both slingers have same gear, hybrid gain form my stacks exactly the amount I would gain, so raid-wide dps is the same. This is however only true until last 30%, where eating stacks leads to decrease of dps, as DF cant fully utilize +15% buff from skill tree Good point about the sub-30 ability meaning hybrid (or ss) won't mix as well as another DF. As to dots vs WS eating it, I just meant that as dirty fighting you make sure to have WS eat HB stacks, and the others wouldn't be timing their WS to line up with your HB (or wouldn't have them at all, and with less vital shot damage to boot, if you're raiding with sharpshooters/scrappers). Thinking more, though, it's not so bad and could be quite good: you only get to eat HB stacks with the first WS in rotation, and if anyone else is casting WS then too, you could get more raid-wide dps out of HB actually by having WS's consume a greater share of the stacks. In particular if you have two DF gunslingers, you ideally want them to have their rotations "out of phase" (i.e. one uses HB and then you both WS, and then after a few gcds the other uses HB and you both WS) and they'd each do more dps than they would alone. I guess you could test this on a dummy with two people hitting it. Or maybe you don't need them to be out of phase to gain this benefit: what happens if there are two HB's up on the boss at the same time? Edited February 21, 2014 by cxten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandellon Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 If you put two different HB stacks, they sum up and act like there was 20 in total. They do not mulitply And your point of other slingers not timing their WS is invalid. In our usuall raid enviroment where I'm the only DF + 3 hybrids + 1 SS, the moment I start casting WS there is already only ~4 stacks left. They dont have to time anything. 11 dots tick on those stacks everytime, and that 1.5s is enough to have a maximum of first tick of WS buffed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedusone Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Suushi - Dotsmash marauder - Care Bear Tickle Party - Nefra 16m Empire - 3419.67 (trimmed for droid at the end) http://www.torparse.com/a/601107/time/1393211774/1393211930/0/Overview Edited February 24, 2014 by Kaedusone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shakell Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Corrupter Zero Antonica - Focus Guardian - Aisthesis - 2862.71 http://www.torparse.com/a/462487/27/0/Overview Draxus Antonica - Focus Guardian - Aisthesis - 2453.17 http://www.torparse.com/a/462453/14/0/Overview Grob'thok Antonica - Focus Guardian - Aisthesis - 3429.25 http://www.torparse.com/a/486986/13/0/Overview These parses are all ancient, so I could do much better now if we still did 16-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandellon Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Was playing SS for fun, for the first time since Trasher progression Brontes Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2606.69 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/22/0/Overview Calphayus Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2390.12 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/43/0/Overview Raptus Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2577 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/47/0/Overview Dread Masters Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2815.88 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/51/0/Overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKantner Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Btw i'm fine with nefra in front of each of my submitted parses. Easy to find which one is mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuvonDrake Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Suddenly all our gunslingers is either Dirty Fighting or SS, I am starting to feel like I am playing a useless specc, ALSO FIRST TIME IN LIKE A MONTH I SURVIVE LASER ON CORRUPTER HAHAHA (now someone else has to pay our raidleader 200k). Draxus Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3211.38 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/time/1393443057/1393443432/0/Overview Grob'thok Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3767.7 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/time/1393443682/1393444040/0/Overview Corruptor Zero Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3616.14 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/16/0/Overview Dread Palace Bestia Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3345.23 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/33/0/Overview Raptus Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2724.44 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/47/0/Overview Dread Masters Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3168.61 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/50/0/Overview Edited February 26, 2014 by RikuvonDrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leilio Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Nefra, Who Bars the Way 16M Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 3412.21 http://www.torparse.com/a/602926 Gate Commander Draxus 16M Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 2259.12 http://www.torparse.com/a/602926 Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge 16M Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 3370.84 http://www.torparse.com/a/602926 Edited March 3, 2014 by Leilio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Nefra, Who Bars the Way Evolixe - Infiltration Shadow - Rebel Dream - 3367.91 http://www.torparse.com/a/604094/1/0/Damage+Dealt Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge Evolixe - Infiltration Shadow - Rebel Dream - 3592.09 http://www.torparse.com/a/604094/9/0/Damage+Dealt Dread Master Tyrans Evolixe - Infiltration Shadow - Rebel Dream - 3180.31 http://www.torparse.com/a/604094/33/0/Damage+Dealt Edited February 26, 2014 by Evolixe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paowee Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Been working hard, haven't raided in at least 2 weeks going 3 now . Looks like Pyrotechs replaced Hybrid as the new 3.3~3.4K Dread Masters DPS now Btw i'm fine with nefra in front of each of my submitted parses. Easy to find which one is mine. Fixed and updated. Nefra, Who Bars the Way Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 3412.21 I can not take this due to: Ending Event: Mort Edited February 26, 2014 by paowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsmodeusML Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Gate Commander Draxus 16-man Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 2815 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/7/0/Damage+Dealt Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge 16-man Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3686 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/11/0/Damage+Dealt Corruptor Zero 16-man Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3261 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/14/0/Damage+Dealt Dread Master Bestia 16-man Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3318 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/24/0/Damage+Dealt Dread Master Tyrans 16-man Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3135 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/28/0/Damage+Dealt Dread Master Raptus 16-man Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 2318 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/41/0/Damage+Dealt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaidinah Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Corruptor Zero 16-man Aeralos - Saboteur Gunslinger - Intrepid - 4195.02 Hey Boarder, I did this yesterday without rolling in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydonian_Knight Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Nefra Nikkos - Vigilance Guardian - Manticore - 3514.7 http://www.torparse.com/a/595662/time/1392763938/1392764289/0/Overview Crrouptor Zero Nikkos - Focus Guardian - Manticore - 3811.57 http://www.torparse.com/a/604272/18/0/Overview Milksteak - Hybrid Gunslinger - Manticore - 3836.75 http://www.torparse.com/a/557762/33/0/Overview Tyrans Nikkos - Vigilance Guardian - Manticore - 3345.25 http://www.torparse.com/a/604272/31/0/Overview Raptus Nikkos - Vigilance Guardian - Manticore - 2838.77 http://www.torparse.com/a/604272/44/0/Overview Edited February 28, 2014 by Cydonian_Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmscmt Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Nefra Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 3642.87 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/time/1393556858/1393556969/0/Damage+Dealt Trimmed for droid Draxus Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2510.56 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/36/0/Damage+Dealt Calphayus Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2537.96 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/63/0/Damage+Dealt Raptus Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2528.56 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/67/0/Damage+Dealt Dread Masters Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2983.82 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/70/0/Damage+Dealt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingNews Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Raptus Fascinate - Pyro Merc - Aurum Gaming - 2932.41 - http://www.torparse.com/a/605542/5/0/Overview Council Fascinate - Pyro Merc - Aurum Gaming - 3563.73 - http://www.torparse.com/a/605542/8/0/Overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmet Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Noire - Concealment - Aurum Gaming *I'll just put this here before I erase my logs because LOL @ Alvor and we can never not have troll runs with this content* see you in NiM Grob - http://www.torparse.com/a/605664/time/1393644255/1393644440/0/Overview - 3877.52 - trimmed to grob death Edited February 28, 2014 by Transmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmscmt Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Noire - Concealment - Aurum Gaming *I'll just put this here before I erase my logs because LOL @ Alvor and we can never not have troll runs with this content* see you in NiM Grob - http://www.torparse.com/a/605664/time/1393644255/1393644440/0/Overview - 3877.52 - trimmed to grob death I know buddy, *********** ***** on brontes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hey at least you guys don't have people pulling you into red circles, into infernos, into the wrong circle on Calphayus, dropping aggro on a boss when you're standing right next to it etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmet Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hey at least you guys don't have people pulling you into red circles, into infernos, into the wrong circle on Calphayus, dropping aggro on a boss when you're standing right next to it etc etc. I would never do anything like that to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I would never do anything like that to you No, absolutely never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingNews Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hey at least you guys don't have people pulling you into red circles, into infernos, into the wrong circle on Calphayus, dropping aggro on a boss when you're standing right next to it etc etc. I feel your pain mari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestibor Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Brontes Chestibur - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Severity Gaming - 2838.49 - http://www.torparse.com/a/595833/time/1392772105/1392772431/0/Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasgharvey Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Raptus Fascinate - Pyro Merc - Aurum Gaming - 2932.41 - http://www.torparse.com/a/605542/5/0/Overview Council Fascinate - Pyro Merc - Aurum Gaming - 3563.73 - http://www.torparse.com/a/605542/8/0/Overview Fascinate for MV(Merc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Nefra, Who Bars the Way Foot - Pyrotech Mercenary - Aurum Gaming - 3811.92 http://www.torparse.com/a/606515/time/1393643171/1393643288/0/Overview Dread Master Raptus Foot - Pyrotech Mercenary - Aurum Gaming - 2817.5 http://www.torparse.com/a/606515/32/0/Overview Got knocked back at least twice on Raptus tanks trolling hard tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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