Yaiser Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Where is the guarantee on BW's half? up to 5 = 0 to 5 No where does it say Early Access is guaranteed /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jest Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Except how it isn't free, as we paid a 5 dollar pre-order charge. If you don't get in free, they took your money and didn't give you the service, which is against the law :] Not saying that's how its going to play out, just saying its what can happen. They didn't charge you for anything. the $5 goes towards the purchase. At anytime before you pick up the game, you can get that $5 back. Edited December 13, 2011 by Jest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdream Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Sooo... they have children in NZ, too. Interesting. I didn't know. I thought they only had hobbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrfli Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I feel sorry for people who had to put a down-payment on their pre-order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberration Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) This is usually why I do not visit game forums, except for troubleshooting problems. But the dang force compels me. I never paid a pre-order fee. All I paid was for the shipping of the pre-order code to me. But the actual code was free. Edited December 13, 2011 by Aberration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigoldbear Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I told you that was a secret bro! Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackumDog Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Sooo... they have children in NZ, too. Interesting. I didn't know. I thought they only had hobbits. you learn so much good stuff on these forums, I always thought NZ was a fictional place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umdiddly Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 your country has 4 million people. most companies would deem that an insignificant market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRadiant Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Word... So easy to get everyone spun up. Edited December 13, 2011 by PrimeRadiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackumDog Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 your country has 4 million people. most companies would deem that an insignificant market. NZ has a lot of flightless birds, maybe they play computer games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbal Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Jango Fett was a kiwi. Better watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canarith Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Have a friend who said that if they don't get you in they break their Consumer Guarantees Act and the law. http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/consumer-guarantees-act He was saying even WoW was afraid on pre-order launching do to this act. Please show me what part of this law says they must get you in before the general launch of the game: Goods Retailers and other such suppliers guarantee their goods will: Be of acceptable quality (see definition below). Be fit for a particular purpose that you asked about. Match the description given in advertisements or sales brochures, or by the sales assistant. Match the sample or demonstration model. Be owned by the consumer, once purchased. Be a reasonable price, if no price or pricing formula has been previously agreed. Manufacturers (the definition includes importers) in New Zealand guarantee that: Spare parts and repair facilities will be available for a reasonable time. They will honour any written warranty that comes with their products. Goods are of acceptable quality. Goods match their description. Services Service providers guarantee their services will be: Performed with reasonable care and skill. Fit for the particular purpose they were supplied for. Completed within a reasonable time. A reasonable price, if no price or pricing formula has been previously agreed. Acceptable quality This means goods: Do what they are made to do. Are acceptable in appearance and finish. Are free from minor defects. Are safe and durable. The Act's terms "reasonable" and "acceptable" are deliberately open-ended. It depends on what a reasonable consumer would think was acceptable based on the nature of the goods, the price, and any statements that have been made about the goods. A concert violin is required to meet a higher standard than a child's cheap instrument. Ultimately a tribunal referee or a judge may have to decide what is reasonable or acceptable in the circumstances. If a defect was pointed out to you before you bought the good, then it doesn't count towards making it unacceptable. Please show me a single thing in that list that indicates they have to give you access before the game launch. I dare you . You won't be able to, because it doesn't exist. No offense, but this thing from New Zealand is practically the same as it is in the United States, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathnasty Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 everyone who pre-ordered will be in by the 19th, the internet is a free market, for instance where i live i can pirate anything crack anything and sell it on the internet or down the market or in the local supermarket. If the data is held on this countries servers no one can do anything about it, EVER. However i am not a pirate The country where i live does not adhere to any outside laws. laws like the one you posted are normally only country wide, as they simply cannot enforce it world wide, due to clashes with laws of other countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRadiant Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 Please show me what part of this law says they must get you in before the general launch of the game: Goods Retailers and other such suppliers guarantee their goods will: Be of acceptable quality (see definition below). Be fit for a particular purpose that you asked about. Match the description given in advertisements or sales brochures, or by the sales assistant. Match the sample or demonstration model. Be owned by the consumer, once purchased. Be a reasonable price, if no price or pricing formula has been previously agreed. Manufacturers (the definition includes importers) in New Zealand guarantee that: Spare parts and repair facilities will be available for a reasonable time. They will honour any written warranty that comes with their products. Goods are of acceptable quality. Goods match their description. Services Service providers guarantee their services will be: Performed with reasonable care and skill. Fit for the particular purpose they were supplied for. Completed within a reasonable time. A reasonable price, if no price or pricing formula has been previously agreed. Acceptable quality This means goods: Do what they are made to do. Are acceptable in appearance and finish. Are free from minor defects. Are safe and durable. The Act's terms "reasonable" and "acceptable" are deliberately open-ended. It depends on what a reasonable consumer would think was acceptable based on the nature of the goods, the price, and any statements that have been made about the goods. A concert violin is required to meet a higher standard than a child's cheap instrument. Ultimately a tribunal referee or a judge may have to decide what is reasonable or acceptable in the circumstances. If a defect was pointed out to you before you bought the good, then it doesn't count towards making it unacceptable. Please show me a single thing in that list that indicates they have to give you access before the game launch. I dare you . You won't be able to, because it doesn't exist. No offense, but this thing from New Zealand is practically the same as it is in the United States, btw. Hey, don't blame me, my friend told me this. IIIIIIIIIII didn't do it! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanSeraph Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 LOL. Bioware isn't a New Zealand company first off. Second, you need to read the fine print before trying to sue someone. OP needs to get smarter friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morolac Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Sooo... they have children in NZ, too. Interesting. I didn't know. I thought they only had hobbits. Totally made my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoggieNZ Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I live in New Zealand. First I can not see how its breaking the Consumers Guarantee Act. Second even if it was the product was bought outside New Zealand so the act would not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSeer Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Please show me what part of this law says they must get you in before the general launch of the game: Goods Retailers and other such suppliers guarantee their goods will: Be of acceptable quality (see definition below). Be fit for a particular purpose that you asked about. Match the description given in advertisements or sales brochures, or by the sales assistant. Match the sample or demonstration model. Be owned by the consumer, once purchased. Be a reasonable price, if no price or pricing formula has been previously agreed. Manufacturers (the definition includes importers) in New Zealand guarantee that: Spare parts and repair facilities will be available for a reasonable time. They will honour any written warranty that comes with their products. Goods are of acceptable quality. Goods match their description. Services Service providers guarantee their services will be: Performed with reasonable care and skill. Fit for the particular purpose they were supplied for. Completed within a reasonable time. A reasonable price, if no price or pricing formula has been previously agreed. Acceptable quality This means goods: Do what they are made to do. Are acceptable in appearance and finish. Are free from minor defects. Are safe and durable. The Act's terms "reasonable" and "acceptable" are deliberately open-ended. It depends on what a reasonable consumer would think was acceptable based on the nature of the goods, the price, and any statements that have been made about the goods. A concert violin is required to meet a higher standard than a child's cheap instrument. Ultimately a tribunal referee or a judge may have to decide what is reasonable or acceptable in the circumstances. If a defect was pointed out to you before you bought the good, then it doesn't count towards making it unacceptable. Please show me a single thing in that list that indicates they have to give you access before the game launch. I dare you . You won't be able to, because it doesn't exist. No offense, but this thing from New Zealand is practically the same as it is in the United States, btw. Sounds remarkably similar to UK laws also, there's one other thing to bear in mind though. Distance Selling Regulations - most companies have some version of this law, it would come into play, and you may find that NZ law doesn't even apply to the contract you've entered into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingTarget Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 New Zealand laws don't apply to products imported on your own volition and not offered in the country. Besides, where does it say December 13 launch for everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syonco Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Who cares about that 3rd world country anyway? :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammur Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 MMO's are not product to begin with they are like internet and cable tv its a service and a service they have the right to refuse if they chose to do so just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdream Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 you learn so much good stuff on these forums, I always thought NZ was a fictional place I know, right! Just reading the forums makes me wonder if I made a right decision to purchase this game to begin with, because average player age seems to be around 15. But since I'm going to be on RP server anyway, hopefully I avoid this level of idiocy going on around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krosh Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Early game access is a free program available to people who pre-ordered (ie, put a deposit on) the video game that is released on the 20th. I don't think that legally speaking anyone has actually purchased the game yet. LOL you really think its free? Nothings free, not even early acess. Your 30 days of pre-paid game time starts the minut Early Access starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackumDog Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I know, right! Just reading the forums makes me wonder if I made a right decision to purchase this game to begin with, because average player age seems to be around 15. But since I'm going to be on RP server anyway, hopefully I avoid this level of idiocy going on around here. Forums are like Bridges in Norway...there are trolls under each one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevock Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 This thread made me slip a disc because I was laughing so hard. Thanks, now I have to go to the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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