TheSupaCoopa Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 They should at least be scaled for Campaign/Black Hole. Its annoyingly easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Well the SMs are designed to be 2 manned and the HMs seem well tuned imo. To which, if not both, difficulty are you referring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I disagree solely because they are part of a weekly. By that logic, they shouldn't be more difficult than, say, the Heroic +2 Oricon mission that is part of the weekly, and I think the SM ones fall in there nicely. The HM ones are incredibly difficult for most groups, it seems. I have seen them fail so many times in pugs, which is sad, but doesn't seem to indicate they are a cakewalk for all pugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSupaCoopa Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Well the SMs are designed to be 2 manned and the HMs seem well tuned imo. To which, if not both, difficulty are you referring? I'm reffering to SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znihilist Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I'm reffering to SM. They drop 66 blue, how much harder you want them to be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSupaCoopa Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 They drop 66 blue, how much harder you want them to be ? I know they drop blue 66s, but it seem that my PT can just stand in one spot and not die.. I've also never seen any deaths in SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskaeth Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I know they drop blue 66s, but it seem that my PT can just stand in one spot and not die.. I've also never seen any deaths in SM. PUG the HM 10 times a day and figure out the meaning of story mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimmak Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I know they drop blue 66s, but it seem that my PT can just stand in one spot and not die.. I've also never seen any deaths in SM. Just how difficult do you want them to be? Because keep in mind, people still need to run those for the czerka weekly, and they're supposed to be possible for any composition (4 dps, 4 healers, 4 tanks, 2 dps & 2 tanks, etc...) Sure, they aren't challenging. But they're supposed to give you a way to get through the weekly without having to wait an entire day because your spec isn't in demand. I have no interest in turning the difficulty up on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrastor Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) The HM ones are incredibly difficult for most groups, it seems. I have seen them fail so many times in pugs, which is sad, but doesn't seem to indicate they are a cakewalk for all pugs.Do you explain tacs to new people? I mean, each boss has 1-2 tactics max that have to be explained in maybe 2 mins. Compare it to Malgus fight or Kaon/Lost Island. Whenever someone was new in my runs or we wiped, I explained tacs and it went ok, difficult sometimes but never any kind of wipe fest like in Kaon/LI or HK-47 in old 50 HMs. As for SM, story mode is story mode. Edited November 11, 2013 by Pietrastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 They could at least make it so that you have to leave the water *once* or die in CZ Labs SM/. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekimmak Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 They could at least make it so that you have to leave the water *once* or die in CZ Labs SM/. Just saying. Oh, but they have. It's called "Go get the complementary medcenter for use, because we don't actually have someone that can heal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znihilist Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) I know they drop blue 66s, but it seem that my PT can just stand in one spot and not die.. I've also never seen any deaths in SM. In what gear ? I certainly didn't stand in one spot and not die when I was doing it as a fresh 55 (with no substitutable gear). Edited November 11, 2013 by znihilist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never_Hesitate Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 The level 55 HMs (expect for the 2 Czerka) are tuned for 61/63 or are at least doable in that gear. The 2 sm Czerka are H2+ missions like BT/Esseles, with 58+ gear in a 4 player group they will always feel way too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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