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Obi-Wan and Yoda survived it though. When the examples you use is from first a video game and books off said video game, I think the movie examples trump it to say it's more likely she didn't get axed.

 

Like said before, if that is how she leaves Anakin for good, then who do you think he'd have more hatred for? Someone who simply left the Order that he now views as "evil" or the guy who still through the Order in his face while he was being roasted then turned his back on Anakin to leave him for dead? I think the second person would be #1 on his hit list and that person was living on his home planet.

 

If anything, under those circumstances, he'd try to find her to bring her to the dark side if he ran into her again.

 

Obi-Wan and Yoda survived it, because they had to live for the OT :rolleyes:...Ahsoka doesn't have that protection so she is fair game to be killed later on as Vader hunts down the jedi if so chosen. Not to mention, that Obi-Wan and Yoda went to places where

 

1. Was strong with the darkside IE: Dagobah.

 

2. Vader had bad memories and wanting nothing to do with Tatooine.

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Obi-Wan and Yoda survived it, because they had to live for the OT :rolleyes:...Ahsoka doesn't have that protection so she is fair game to be killed later on as Vader hunts down the jedi if so chosen. Not to mention, that Obi-Wan and Yoda went to places where

 

1. Was strong with the darkside IE: Dagobah.

 

2. Vader had bad memories and wanting nothing to do with Tatooine.

 

If Disney wants to use her in the NT (Next Trilogy), then she suddenly gets that protection. Disney changes the rules.

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You gonna back the statement up? As far as I'm aware nothing has been said about it, although Sam Witwer to expressed a desire to be involved and hinted at a third story IIRC. But if it does happen, Episode VII. If the rumors are true that 1313 has been postponed then its likely Lucasarts simply has its hands full right now.

 

Still, IMO it would be stupid not to make a third one. The potential is by all means there and the first two installments were incredibly successful, and it seemed to me, bridged the gap to the 'non-fans' - which is always a plus.

 

Lucasarts, etc. Info was given out awhile back saying it was canceled due to TFU II's poor performance.

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Why, you must have been one of those people who never read the books based on the game? :rolleyes:

 

TFU I was long enough unless you rushed everything to the end.

Any reason i should btw?

There are books based on those games? Way to milk it. :rolleyes:

Even if i read those books, it wouldnt make me like the games more. Assuming the books are any good. Wich is a rarity in star wars. In anycase I recon one doesnt read star wars books for their literally quality, but even so. Wouldnt make me forget the in game experience.

 

I didnt rushed TFU1 nor TFU2 They are so linear and straight forward that, they cant be rushed.

But i recall what i hate more about those games were their dlcs.

dont get me wrong the game might be entertaining, to play it once. But i found the whole thing cheap, very "comercial"

THe Voice acting were good at least.

 

Give me Jedi knight II outcast and jedi knight III academy anytime over that. Better yet give me KOTOR III :)

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Lucasarts, etc. Info was given out awhile back saying it was canceled due to TFU II's poor performance.
Rumors I believe, the new CEO axed some people etc. etc. but there have also been rumors its still in the works and no official confirmation has yet been made.

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Any reason i should btw?

There are books based on those games? Way to milk it. :rolleyes:

Even if i read those books, it wouldnt make me like the games more. Assuming the books are any good. Wich is a rarity in star wars. In anycase I recon one doesnt read star wars books for their literally quality, but even so. Wouldnt make me forget the in game experience.

 

I didnt rushed TFU1 nor TFU2 They are so linear and straight forward that, they cant be rushed.

But i recall what i hate more about those games were their dlcs.

dont get me wrong the game might be entertaining, to play it once. But i found the whole thing cheap, very "comercial"

THe Voice acting were good at least.

 

Give me Jedi knight II outcast and jedi knight III academy anytime over that. Better yet give me KOTOR III :)

 

Hey wise guy, the books were the true versions of what the games were based on. There were hardly any demi-god powers, Starkiller struggled, people were realistic, etc.

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Hey wise guy, the books were the true versions of what the games were based on. There were hardly any demi-god powers, Starkiller struggled, people were realistic, etc.

 

I heard that before so? that realy doesnt change nothing about the game. The books are the books, the game are the game. The overal story is the same.

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I heard that before so? that realy doesnt change nothing about the game. The books are the books, the game are the game. The overal story is the same.

 

And the books are the canon, while the games aren't or the mechanics are not. So...what do you find wrong with it? If it makes you feel any better, Galen never fought Palpatine and he won against Vader by the skin of his teeth, the 2nd time with the clone he was fighting 'disinterested'.

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And the books are the canon, while the games aren't or the mechanics are not. So...what do you find wrong with it? If it makes you feel any better, Galen never fought Palpatine and he won against Vader by the skin of his teeth, the 2nd time with the clone he was fighting 'disinterested'.

 

I told you i found very comercial oriented, very cheap. I didnt enjoy it.

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Thats it? Alright then..won't press, ain't right for the thread anyhow.

 

Im talking about the games not the books.

The overal story is very cliché and cartoonish, quite predicatable, and once at the end, meh i didnt find nothing special, that stands realy out or that is unique in the story.

i wouldnt call it good by any means. I had hopes before buying FU1 but when i played it while entertaining the first time i couldnt bother to play it again. I remembering being somewhat disapointed with it.

To call those games good when there have been other star wars games with much higher quality its ridiculous. in my opinion.

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Im talking about the games not the books.

The overal story is very cliché and cartoonish, quite predicatable, and once at the end, meh i didnt find nothing special, that stands realy out or that is unique in the story.

i wouldnt call it good by any means. I had hopes before buying FU1 but when i played it while entertaining the first time i couldnt bother to play it again. I remembering being somewhat disapointed with it.

To call those games good when there have been other star wars games with much higher quality its ridiculous. in my opinion.

 

Well you are entitled to your opinion, everyone is....I guess that is a good thing about entertainment.

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Ventress becomes more and more interesting. I don't care Anakin.

 

Ashoka and Ventress having something in common was nice to see.

 

I really like Ventress now, her character arch from baddie sith pawn to anti-hero loner has made her very interesting.

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Well you are entitled to your opinion, everyone is....I guess that is a good thing about entertainment.

 

Don't try to make him see reason anymore, can't help someone who won't listen due to having their head shoved up their... :rolleyes:

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Im talking about the games not the books.

The overal story is very cliché and cartoonish, quite predicatable, and once at the end, meh i didnt find nothing special, that stands realy out or that is unique in the story.

i wouldnt call it good by any means. I had hopes before buying FU1 but when i played it while entertaining the first time i couldnt bother to play it again. I remembering being somewhat disapointed with it.

To call those games good when there have been other star wars games with much higher quality its ridiculous. in my opinion.

I don't agree with you, but I agree on were you stand concerning books vs games. Sure, the books might of been awesome but reading them isn't going to heighten your gaming experience or make the story any better, because all that isn't in the game. The problem is others are looking at it from a lore perspective rather than from a consumer perspective, from a lore perspective yes the book and the game have to been taken into account but from a consumer perspective i.e. some who has bought the game with the intention of playing it, you can only base the merits of the game on the game itself. I mean, do you think game reviewers like Gamespot and Metacritic are going to take the books into account when reviewing the game? No they are not.

 

Personally however, I'd disagree. Yes there were elements of the game that were cliche, but the story itself was quite an original one and really quite excellent, providing a unique perspective into 'the Empire', fast-paced exciting action and lots of twists and turns. Despite you having a vague idea of what might happen next, even then I would call it entirely predictable, the only things I found predictable were the romance between Juno and Marek, your eventual betrayal and that you would ultimately duel with Vader. That's it, and even then, predictablity by no means means poor story. After all 'The Lawless' was pretty predictable and yet its one of the best episodes in the Clone Wars series.

 

I certainly wouldn't call it cartoonish, that would suggest that Marek was a stereotypical hero figure - yet he was not, he was far more complex at morally ambiguous. Apply this to Vader and Sidious, and maybe you have a point, but then again these are the characters of the Original Trilogy and were meant to have a cartoonish bad guy element to them.

 

I also though PROXY was a very original and non-cartoonish/cliche character - a sort of pseudo-C3P0 and I really liked that element. Rahm Kota, cliche? cartoonish? Not at all significantly - war hardened general, mentor figure - sure there's an element of stereotype to him but that can be said of many characters especially concerning Star Wars, and he's still excellent voiced and intricate enough to be interesting. In fact most of the characters in this story are quite complex. Juno Eclipse being one of them, another excellent, well-rounded character.

 

But criticisms aside, it also had some excellent features e.g. outstanding visual designs, a powerful story, awesome game mechanics, incredible voice acting and a distinctly 'original trilogy' feel. However this game is by no means an RPG, and was aimed at a wide audience, so we have to expect an element of 'commercialism' (I call it appealing to the masses) evident through overpowered abilities and heavy focus on game mechanics. However nonetheless these are pulled off incredibly well and I for one took great enjoyment out of punting Jawas. :D

 

And just because their are better games out their does not mean this one is rubbish, fortunately the English language has provided us with a range of helpful adjectives e.g. TFU is great, KOTOR is excellent.

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