bahdasz Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) I don't ever remember seeing Han Solo beating anybody's butt in a fist fight. He's a gunslinger all the way. He decked Lando! First off, Lando is the epitome of a WEAK opponent, and he made a LOUSY companion. Secondly, any Gunslinger that can't smash a weak opponent's junk in the dirt using their melee moves... not deserving of the title. I stand by my argument for Gunslinger. When I see him turn invisible or shoot bacta rays out of his butt to heal Chewie in a gunfight... then I might change my mind. Edited October 30, 2012 by bahdasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Holmes Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Han Solo is Han Solo. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainamoinen Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Han Solo shot first. Scoundrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haystak Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The only times Han isn't fighting from cover is when he's either blind, or he's actively running TO cover. He's a pure Sharpshooter Gunslinger who only wields one blaster. I agree with you that he is always running to cover....but sharpshooters dont run to cover, they just cover in place.....a scoundrel works better here as they dont have the mobile bunker, and actually have to run for cover when things get bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 he was a bad smuggler so he could not afford to get the skills need to be better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutoxis Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 He decked Lando! Yes, but that was in a cut scene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KryloKillian Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I agree with you that he is always running to cover....but sharpshooters dont run to cover, they just cover in place.....a scoundrel works better here as they dont have the mobile bunker, and actually have to run for cover when things get bad. Natural cover provides a much higher ranged defense bonus than the GS's mobile bunker, thus good gunslingers do, indeed, run (or rather roll) to cover when possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphasgimaone Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 A smuggler without an AC. Both Hon and Luke were level 6 at the start of the OT. Luke overleved on Hoth by fighting the Wampa elite and got his AC on Dagobah. Han just became worm food and a mantelpiece. The argument can not be settled by weapons slots. Solo does not dual wield, nor does he have a hidden shotgun. Not to thread ninja, but does anyone know where the shotgun idea came from? Is there someone in the EU who used one, or was it just the obvious derivative of the whole outlaw cowboy motif they went with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenrik Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Not to thread ninja, but does anyone know where the shotgun idea came from? Is there someone in the EU who used one, or was it just the obvious derivative of the whole outlaw cowboy motif they went with? Good question, I was wondering that too. I love the shotgun idea, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplius Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 As much as I hate to say it, Han Solo was a terrible smuggler. He got caught, he can't sneak (see ROTJ), he can't dual wield, he can't heal, and if he were a better smuggler, he wouldn't have gotten caught in the Death Star's tractor beam.... Let the flaming begin! he got caught after LOTS of successful smuggling runs,,he did it several years death star got him because they thought it was a moon he doesnt exist in this game, because he would have a lot of skills in space,,also ship repairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldefail Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) I seriously think people keep insisting he'd be a scoundrel because somebody called him a scoundrel in the movie. Scoundrel is defined as a dishonest or unscrupulous person, or a rogue. It is used as an advanced class distinction because it sounds smugglerish. That's all. Not because somebody thought Han Solo behaved like some dishonest two-bit villain. If I had to choose one class present in this game to fit Han Solo it would most definitely be gunslinger. He doesn't fit the scoundrel advanced class very well at all, the only thing he has in common with it is wielding one blaster and somebody calling him a scoundrel. "Scoundrel" was an allusion to his personal character, not his choice of combat style. However I agree that he's actually more of a mix of both Scoundrel class and Gunslinger class, with a heavy Gunslinger bias. But seriously, you guys, this whole "he's a scoundrel because he by definition acts like the textbook definition of scoundrel" thing is just stupid. He's a gunslinger because mechanics-wise he fits it better. That's if you have to choose between scoundrel and gunslinger. Otherwise, he's probably neither. Insisting he's a scoundrel advanced class because his personality is dishonest and roguish even though his fighting style really doesn't mesh well with it at all is just stupid. Stop it. Edited November 12, 2012 by eldefail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KcirSirrah Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Han would be a mix of gunslinger and scoundrel but more gunslinger than scoundrel. Now with that being said we all know that Han is a dirty fighter because he shot Greedo first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Didnt solo use a flechette launcher in the corporate sector?that would count as a scattergun i believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 He wasn't ether of the two. He was just that bad arse that he ran 'Smuggler' he didn't need no stinkin' advanced class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthWalt Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think a hybrid scoundral sawbone. If you remeber when Lai got shot at the Deathstar shield he ran to look to see how bad she was hurt and if he could help not just shooting back. Just saying he might have a bit of healer in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordMagnus Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 he was a imp capt of a star ship before he met chewei he saved him from execution hes a scoundrel he even saiz so in the movie and books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthFamine Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 DPS Scoundrel one gun, never see him heal, called a scoundrel by Leia, sneaky as heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrydurf Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 He doesn't map well directly to the classes but I'm pretty sure he is more an inspiration for the scoundrel than gunslinger. Gunslinger is along the lines of the smuggler from the intro vids two guns blazing cowboy. Han used a blaster and sometimes from cover (though so did luke in the beginning so ... ) but his defining moments fighting were much more scoundrely, short range surprise attack on greedo, quick draw on Vader (though ineffective). I modeled my smuggler off Han and went with a DF scoundrel. Which also fits with him being moderately effective at best in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andge Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) I agree that Han Solo is a smuggler. But the real question is, no matter if he's scoundrel or gunslinger, how was he able to use a rifle when they are on board the Death Star? Neither of the ACs can use a rifle... Please fix this, George!!! Edited December 9, 2012 by Andge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigDiath Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Han is a gunslinger. That's why he shot first. He just needs only 1 blaster. Even though Bane is a Bounty Hunter in TCW it appears they modeled the GS after him but I think the GS style fits Han very well in this game. He fights dirty. He can throw a punch. Great aim. Can't sneak/stealth for crap and is very direct. Either that or I would give him Dirty Fighting Scoundrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andge Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) DPS Scoundrel one gun, never see him heal, called a scoundrel by Leia, sneaky as heck. Yeah I agree. When Leia calls Han a scoundrel, she is not using the word in a general or derogative way. She is referring to his Advanced Class. If Han had been a Gunslinger, when Leia says "You Scoundrel?" Han would have replied "No, I'm Gunslinger". So, Han's definitely Scoundrel. What I don't understand is how Han, Luke, Obi-Wan, R2-D2 and Cheewie were able to enter the same FP when they enter the Death Star, since normally 4 man is the limit and companions are removed when that limit is reached. So either Cheewie or R2-D2 should have been removed. Edited December 10, 2012 by Andge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigDiath Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Yeah I agree. When Leia calls Han a scoundrel, she is not using the word in a general or derogative way. She is referring to his Advanced Class. If Han had been a Gunslinger, when Leia says "You Scoundrel?" Han would have replied "No, I'm Gunslinger". So, Han's definitely Scoundrel. What I don't understand is how Han, Luke, Obi-Wan, R2-D2 and Cheewie were able to enter the same FP when they enter the Death Star, since normally 4 man is the limit and companions are removed when that limit is reached. So either Cheewie or R2-D2 should have been removed. R2 was only summoned as a repair droid so not really a companion and Han summoned Chewie as one of his AC attacks. The move was called "wrath of the wookie" and caused enemies to be frozen in fear causing confusion for the duration. Had no CD so he spammed it constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gassygunslinger Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Also, when Obi-Wan pulled a Leeroy Jenkins on the Bonus Boss, and bailed the instance, it made room in the group for Leia. Edited December 11, 2012 by Gassygunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railage Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Also, when Obi-Wan pulled a Leeroy Jenkins on the Bonus Boss, and bailed the instance, it made room in the group for Leia. Obi-Wan is a real piece of work... Had to restart the conversation when he did that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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