BlznSmri Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Dude, I was in the instance with y'all when Murda was celebrating your kill at like 4 (central) this afternoon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMurdaJedi Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Santee is just saying that according to the World Ranking Thread.. we are #1 US. But points are points.. congrats to LD50 for beating us to the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitzzin Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) <Insurrected> Killed HM Operator IX on 8-man. We are now 3/5 HMEDIT: 9:35 pm EST 09/29/12http://i46.tinypic.com/2isef42.jpg Edited September 30, 2012 by Pitzzin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlznSmri Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Santee is just saying that according to the World Ranking Thread.. we are #1 US. But points are points.. congrats to LD50 for beating us to the clear. That thread that you're mentioning doesn't even have you guys ranked for clearing it yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthcrawdaddy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 That thread that you're mentioning doesn't even have you guys ranked for clearing it yet... no but the 105 for the clear and the 241 accrued puts RG at 7th world 1st U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlznSmri Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 no but the 105 for the clear and the 241 accrued puts RG at 7th world 1st U.S. What does points matter when LD50 cleared the entire instance first? I mean, it's cool and all that you killed the easy bosses before they did, or at least recorded that you did before them, but it doesn't change that they cleared the entire instance before you guys. Those points are just there to make people feel better about themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmodias Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 What does points matter when LD50 cleared the entire instance first? I mean, it's cool and all that you killed the easy bosses before they did, or at least recorded that you did before them, but it doesn't change that they cleared the entire instance before you guys. Those points are just there to make people feel better about themselves... In the format used to rank guilds as a whole you have to use multiple factors to show over rankings. If the current spreadsheet system being used is how the community as a whole sees fit to rank overall guild progress then so be it. If by using said system when the total end points are tallied and RG is rank number one overall then that is that. No one is disputing the fact that LD 50 got both the server and US first final boss kills. Do not be mad at a guild for using the current ranking system properly. If you have a problem with it take it up with the designers of the system being used to overall rank, not the guilds using the in place system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlznSmri Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 In the format used to rank guilds as a whole you have to use multiple factors to show over rankings. If the current spreadsheet system being used is how the community as a whole sees fit to rank overall guild progress then so be it. If by using said system when the total end points are tallied and RG is rank number one overall then that is that. No one is disputing the fact that LD 50 got both the server and US first final boss kills. Do not be mad at a guild for using the current ranking system properly. If you have a problem with it take it up with the designers of the system being used to overall rank, not the guilds using the in place system. That's all well and good, but this is a thread for full clears. That said, the point system is simply, pointless. The only thing that ultimately counts is who cleared the content the fastest and clearing content means killing the last boss. By all rights, LD50 killed the last boss fastest, and are thus ranked US 1st. It doesn't matter if RG killed the earlier (and easier) bosses before LD50 because it still took them longer to kill the final boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalfurend Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Gratz to RG for getting the US #1 based on that system. I believe the system is done in this way so that the people who help formulate strats, which could potentially be used by people who end up overtaking them only at the final boss, are held in a higher esteem. This definitely lends itself better to games where content cannot be cleared in a single week. Who is the best will always be a matter of opinion But whether you see it as the guild that has accrued the most points by a system, or the guild that cleared the content faster, we definitely have the 2 top US guilds on this server. I tip my hat to my fellow gents on JC. Edited September 30, 2012 by Dalfurend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthcrawdaddy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 That's all well and good, but this is a thread for full clears. . once again, I am sorry for reading the thread title wrong when it said "official PVE progression" and not the title that is there of "post your terror kills here". my bad!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poobin Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Gratz to RG for getting the US #1 based on that system. I believe the system is done in this way so that the people who help formulate strats, which could potentially be used by people who end up overtaking them only at the final boss, are held in a higher esteem. This definitely lends itself better to games where content cannot be cleared in a single week. Who is the best will always be a matter of opinion But whether you see it as the guild that has accrued the most points by a system, or the guild that cleared the content faster, we definitely have the 2 top US guilds on this server. I tip my hat to my fellow gents on JC. Yeah, no matter what we all can agree that JC is the best US server. Congrats to both guilds for the clears and good luck to the rest. lets get some more top 10 US guilds on the server! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmodias Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 That's all well and good, but this is a thread for full clears. That said, the point system is simply, pointless. The only thing that ultimately counts is who cleared the content the fastest and clearing content means killing the last boss. By all rights, LD50 killed the last boss fastest, and are thus ranked US 1st. It doesn't matter if RG killed the earlier (and easier) bosses before LD50 because it still took them longer to kill the final boss. That's your personal opinion and it has no place in a progression thread. If you don't agree with the system then don't use it for ranking your guild. However do not try to undermine the other guilds who use the system and have no problems with how it is set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iimagiicii Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Gratz to all guilds on JC who have full cleared, no matter what position or how many points you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daegun Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Gratz to RG for getting the US #1 based on that system. I believe the system is done in this way so that the people who help formulate strats, which could potentially be used by people who end up overtaking them only at the final boss, are held in a higher esteem. This definitely lends itself better to games where content cannot be cleared in a single week. Who is the best will always be a matter of opinion But whether you see it as the guild that has accrued the most points by a system, or the guild that cleared the content faster, we definitely have the 2 top US guilds on this server. I tip my hat to my fellow gents on JC. You are a stand up guy and i salute you sir. I actually believe our server probably ranks in the top 3 as far as total guilds PVE Progression wise in the world ( Based on the amount of guild on the world ranking for PVE HM content). So, I would like to tip my hat to the server and all the guilds pushing content. Also, RG love you GUYS! Edited September 30, 2012 by Daegun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlznSmri Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 once again, I am sorry for reading the thread title wrong when it said "official PVE progression" and not the title that is there of "post your terror kills here". my bad!!! Read the first post... Instance Cleared, Difficulty and 8 or 16 man. (EC HM, KP NM, EV NM are only available for Top 10 Progression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitzzin Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) <Insurrected> Has killed HM Kephess on 8-man and is now 4/5 HM. 09/29/12 at 11:35pm http://i46.tinypic.com/seubma.jpg Edited September 30, 2012 by Pitzzin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPlastic Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Way to go boys, me driving from New York to Texas and we're still clearing content! Can't wait to be 5/5 tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fremoc Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Dunno if I should post this here but figured it was worth noting DJB 5manned SM EV Pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMurdaJedi Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Dunno if I should post this here but figured it was worth noting DJB 5manned SM EV Pic RG did something like this in June.. except we used only 4 people.. Here is the collection of our videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fremoc Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 RG did something like this in June.. except we used only 4 people.. Here is the collection of our videos. Nicely done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitzzin Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hey guys, For Insurrected's kill video of Kephess the Undying, I included a video guide of the mechanics and strategies for this encounter. I hope you enjoy and that this well help our fellow JC raiders out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynon Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 In Naascar, When you want to know who wins a season, you look at points. When you want to know who wins a race you look at the finish line. This isn't an entire expansion, this is one zone, the starting line was Wed, the first car over the finish line was LD50. No question. Now, when the expansion is over? We'll take a look at those points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svalentine Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) In Naascar, When you want to know who wins a season, you look at points. When you want to know who wins a race you look at the finish line. This isn't an entire expansion, this is one zone, the starting line was Wed, the first car over the finish line was LD50. No question. Now, when the expansion is over? We'll take a look at those points. ]-[oo\/\/ot?? This was quite possibly the worst analogy I have ever heard. Moreover the "world" rankings were started by a random guy in a random guild.. so saying his point system is the proper world first is ridiculous. Hell, I can make up a random point system as well: 50 points per first kill; 500 points for clearing the instance first. Do you see what I'm getting at?? Grats to LD50 for Server 1st, US 1st, and world 9th awins awins awin, knawmeen? Edited September 30, 2012 by svalentine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonKorr Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Hi Chevee, I hope I'm not sticking my foot into a hornet's nest here, but the progression dates via your setup is off. LD50 Should be listed as clearing 8 Man TFB on 9/28. Here's why: LD50 cleared 8 man HM TFB http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/twhitt2008/LDF_TFB/LDF_TFB_8Hard_5.jpg Here is our clearing announcement/post. If you check the time stamp it lists 04:00 AM on the 29th via GMT. By converting 04:00 AM GMT to EST, the kill of the boss happened at 11 PM EST on the 28th. For the sake of thoroughness, Republic Gentlemen (Grats guys), listed their kill in EST. Republic Gentlemen has cleared TFB HM 8man. Here is our kill shot. Killed 9/29/2012 4:09 PM EST http://republicgentlemen.guildportal.com/GuildFiles/443431/Screenshot_2012-09-29_16_09_49_153305.jpg?c=0.06801226083189249 Thanks again for your constant effort in keeping everything up to date. You're doing an outstanding job. Regards, Edited September 30, 2012 by TalonKorr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivicTiger Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Yep, LD cleared it on the 28th. On the 29th (Yesterday) the Guild Leader of RG sent me a tell saying "congratulations on the kill last night, we have been trying the boss for over 24 hours so far". So LD was 28th, RG was 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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