This game is simply no longer any fun to pvp in.

 

"Main" Classes played. Marauder, Shadow, Scoundrel, Sniper

 

Changes that completely baffle me in 2.0 and fundamental problems with the game.

 

EA/Bioware being cheap on bandwidth in Warzones

 

Last time I checked this was a SUB game if you want to pvp. I can understand GW2 being cheap with their servers in WvW, because that game has no monthly fee. In this game though? There is simply no excuse. Sitting there and endlessly hitting healers/tanks, and finally getting an opening to get a node, or down a healer, only to have a horrendous lag spike happen is inexcusable.

 

Sick of the gear/money grind

 

In vanilla this game didn't have stupid crap like augments. For a fully augmented set on my server it would have cost over 7 million credits...This is an absolute joke when you consider that some people might want to pve and pvp. Add to that? Why bother pvping, with this idiotic bolster system on endgame gear. Personally the money issue was never a problem for me. I had many slicers. For others? This is a huge block for players, and this bolster system is so idiotic and bug ridden that I have just given up on this development team to ever release things that aren't broke.

 

As someone else posted? People like Apple products (personally I hate them), because they "work". This system is so stupidly complicated and unnecessary that I don't even know where to begin. Pre 55? Sure put a cap on gear. Hell make it simple. Give everyone the same stats. 55? What was wrong with recruit gear? How was that broken? Now we have pve crap better then pvp crap. Augment bugs. How does this even make it out of testing, when people TOLD you this was broken. You knew 2.0 better be good and just like Vanilla? You decided screw it. Let's release a broken game (memory leak was present from beta to right before 2.0, which to be honest is a joke).

 

EA's priorities and complete ineptitude

 

The first mistake was hiring PvP designers who designed pvp in other failed MMO's. This games budget was stupidly high. How about instead of hiring Hollywood actors to voice content, you ponied up some of that money and hired people who weren't complete failures at pvp design. BTW if you are going to hire Hollywood actors for voicing the game? Hire Bruce Campbell. Yeah that was a joke. Not as big a joke as the failures of this development team though.

 

It took until right before an expansion to fix a memory leak. It took months of pvp players telling you bubblestun was stupid, to fix that. You release a patch and don't even fix bolster. You sure as @$%@ put out another cartel pack though didn't you...

 

Class Balance and changes that make no sense

 

This games pvp was doomed from creation as far as ranked when you decided that you needed 2 support classes in symbiotic gameplay to be effective. It required too many support classes in ranked, which is WHY it has been a complete failure and why no one cares about it. PvP in games like WoW where 1 healer per 2 dps is required is scorned by the pvp community often. You did them one better and made it half? Add to that you can't even create a dual spec system or an equipment manager, when you require these stupid support classes? Am I playing MMO's in reverse now? I am sorry but respeccing and moving my buttons around/gear is a huge pain in the @$@. I have no doubt that you will work on this in the future and perhaps in 2024, this system will be in the game and bug free. Until then? I expect a cartel pack introduced once a month...

 

Crit change, buffing of support classes. Why? Who in their right mind told you that healing/tanking was weak before 2.0? Also who thought that more RNG and random procs on trinkets was a good idea? You require more coordinated burst on heals/tanks and then you make it even worse by making crap completely random? ***? Why is my rage marauder even BETTER then before. Why does my shadow have mitigation and burst and my scoundrel have no mitigation. Why is my shadow/sniper about the only classes that can deal with these stupid changes without an autocrit? Simply horrid balance all the way around.

 

In 2.0 you basically made SWTOR healers, into WoW healers, but seemed to forget that tanking/guard and aoe taunts were in this game. In WoW I can CC lock a healer, shut out their heal school and kill dps. In this game? When that happens you have aoe taunts (derp let's remove the need for targeting), that negate you bursting down someone. Add to that? AOE heals are running.

 

If I make a premade and stack heals I don't die...ever. What the hell fun is this? If I play ranked I am forced to endlessly hit classes where burst is non existent, and any dps you play better have mitigation or a healing debuff, or both. The pvp in this game is simply not fun, and it will never take off in competitive pvp. The one niche you had was that gearing was easy for the casual player, and this game was alt friendly. Now? Gearing is stupidly complicated, non pve pieces are better then pvp pieces, augments are simply too much money for my friends to bother (when they already think the pvp is average at best).

 

The only people who might actually like current pvp is large guilds that run premades in non ranked, and think never dying is really cool. Awesome...

 

Lastly? You never fix any of the real problems. Say commando/merc for instance. That class has real problems as does dps scoundrel/op. What do you do? Introduce a dumb "get screwed" ability on a long cooldown, that isn't fun for the merc/commando or the person playing against them. So we have counters to stealth classes (mainly) which screws over op/scoundrels more then anyone, yet we have no counter for healer immunity, where one healer can heal an immune healer?

 

Anyways this is my last post on this forum. You can check my stats in WZ's Bioware. I bought the DE version of the game and joined this forum from pretty much day 1. I played beta, was appalled the game was released with a memory leak, and nothing you have done since has shown me that things will ever be "good" in this game, or worth a sub fee.

 

My friends all left for WoW along time ago, and I am going back to join them. Not because it is perfect, but if I am going to pay 15 bucks a month for pvp? I am going to do it in a game that isn't often broken, is never/rarely fixed, and that actually has people working on the GAME and not freaking cartel packs. I might play this game until my sub runs out, but that is only because I am waiting for this patch to go live in WoW. Amazing what game companies can do when they aren't only concerned about cartel packs.

 

http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/04/15/patch-5-3-ptr-role-check-in-battleground-queues/

Bye! Say hi to the pandas from me! ^^

See ya! You're probably the same guy chases players on voidstar and leaves the door un-guarded . Same with the turrett. Man up Costanza u quitter!

Finally.. Your QQ posts were really starting to piss me off. cya

I don't know if I ever have agreed with your posts or their tone, but I can see plenty of reason to cancel. It's too bad really. Takes all kinds to keep an MMO going and I have a feeling, more will be leaving than people ever see posts from to ridicule. Won't know it until it's too late.

I myself am growing tired. Hell, I even started playing Rift today as F2P. I'll either be buying Rift subscription or waiting till ESO comes out. As of right now 55 PvP is just no fun. I can't pinpoint exactly what's wrong with it, all I know is.. is that I'm having a lot less fun than I did in 1.7

PVP seems bad atm, and I do put it down to the bolster bug. I am not enjoying it at all anymore and find myself more frustrated than having fun. I am still going to be playing SWTOR, but like the OP I have friends that play WOW and I can hear it calling me, but I am going to wait it out to see if BW pulls its big fat finger out of its big fat arse...

If you are on POTF send me your credits, thanks!

downloading wow as i write this. I've never played it before, but why not give it a go until bioware fixes swtor pvp...

 

anyone got a recommendation for an european pvp server?

Edited April 25, 2013 by sanchito

... all I know is.. is that I'm having a lot less fun than I did in 1.7

 

Bingo. A LOT of us are not having fun anymore.

Smashmonkey Smash no kill everyone no more! Dirty healers! Me sad. Me Quit!

 

Yep. See ya.

Bingo. A LOT of us are not having fun anymore.

 

please quit then. Its supply and demand. Soon everything will be cheap.

Your stuff....

 

 

 

I don't always quit video games...

After reading everything you said i have to say i look foward to you going back to WoW so you can be another one of the babies on the forums complaining about the same things going on in this game.

 

Heres a little tip on whats going on in wow that you might not know.

 

To get your PVP weapons this season you need 27000 conquest points. Now asuming you are some sort of pvp god which i highly doubt you are from reading the post you will have to farm the equivalent of 4 months or more depending on your weekly CAP. Without your PVP weapons PVP in wow is useless because you will not have the PVP power to do ANYTHING. You will be tickling the balls of your enemies for a very long time.

 

Honor gear is worthless and someone who has been farming for 2 months with a full set of current season will treat you as a 50 cent ******. Not because of skill but because of the blown up stats the gear has between the tiers.

 

WoW has moved on from the old skill before gear system and the devs are having an insane time matching the gear stats to benefit people who farm it and those who dont.

 

If you want an idea of how long it would take you to get the entire pvp set with weapons at a 2200+ conq cap it would take you 3 and a half months total. Which is usually around the time they are cycling the new seasons now so guess what. You wouldn't finish getting everything before your done unless blizz decides to raise the season cycling which they are thinking about it.

 

As far as money goes.

 

A full set of enchants will now cost you close to 4k gold if not more depending on your server. Alot of the top end pvp enchants are rare due to the fact no one wants to farm the rep needed to get them making some pvp enchants up to 1k+. You cap at 25 dailies a day giving you an estimated 500g a day from dailies. Enjoy yourself.

 

So yes. Go back to wow. lmao you have no idea how nicely spoiled every PVPer in this game is.

 

PS. i can make 7mil in no time selling med pacs. Hell since ive been playing this game for a while now ive made close to 13mil selling medpacs and pvping across all my toons. Sounds like you just need to learn about what hardwork is instead of wanting a free ride.

 

PSS. can i have your stuff? just want to make sure if you come back you learn from your mistake.

Your last post and I agree with you.

 

Good luck bioftw!

I'll make sure to grab the red wz buff and hit some sage for a 9k maul for ya

 

1 more pointless poster off these forums, infinite more to go...

Yep. See ya.

 

Just played a game on my shadow. I think this speaks volumes. Solo queue against premade with 3 heals plus (pretty much all you ever see).

 

http://i.imgur.com/yW9HTkf.jpg

 

Other team was premade with 3 heals. Other team often lost pre 2.0 (memories of xendor pve guild) against pugs.

 

Stupid buffs to healing, just make everyone afk, and let average players steamroll pugs.

 

BTW? The balance in this game is so bad, if I played that same game on my scoundrel? I would struggle to kill anyone (no mitigation) and I sure as hell wouldn't have been downing their scoundrel healers (go go execute).

 

Their heal sorc of course didn't die once. He would just go immune and get healed by the op's.

 

Also yeah I am really horrible. I outdpsed their smasher with single target (infiltration), and my healer (1 vs 3) only died 3 times. I guess I fail because I can't kill 2 healers that become 3 with voice com.

 

This game is simply broken. All that matters is healing. Immunity on a heal class when you can be healed is broken in a cap/hold game (I would have been fine with dps sorcs only getting this).

 

Before 2.0? I could often overcome premades, less then perfect comps. Now? Average players in a premade are unbeatable, simply because healers make things so forgiving, and take such an obscene amount of time to kill, that you are never capturing anything.

 

So what am I supposed to do? ONLY do premade pvp in NON RANKED? Stack 3 heals (cus you know my friends all played healers, oh wait only one did and he went back to WoW), so that I can do the same and out dps people 2 to 1 with no effort?

 

Force all friends to roll support classes and roll one myself, just so I can have a ranked team?, where it is a big boring heal fest?

 

This is where you rant about objectives, when I was permanently attached to their healers, and they died more then I did (LOL).

 

So let me sum this up. I am playing a broken OP class compared to other melee (minus smash), and I mean nothing, even when outdamaging aoe derp specs who have 3 healers. Yeah that totally makes me want to do Warzones man. I am sure the kids who weren't attached to their healers who died to me in less then 5 seconds had fun!

 

Add to that? All you see is this crap in non ranked, because there is no reason to do ranked. Game is broken. I don't know how anyone can think this is good.

 

Now go buy some cartel packs you lemmings.

Me no like to work for my kills, me like to headbutt desk until red name goes gray.

 

hkmedrqoliwfahioujnhwadfn wemawhioqfgeimhijwe

 

You are dead red man! Tiny blue saber no match for my mighty headbutt.

After reading everything you said i have to say i look foward to you going back to WoW so you can be another one of the babies on the forums complaining about the same things going on in this game.

 

Heres a little tip on whats going on in wow that you might not know.

 

To get your PVP weapons this season you need 27000 conquest points. Now asuming you are some sort of pvp god which i highly doubt you are from reading the post you will have to farm the equivalent of 4 months or more depending on your weekly CAP. Without your PVP weapons PVP in wow is useless because you will not have the PVP power to do ANYTHING. You will be tickling the balls of your enemies for a very long time.

 

Honor gear is worthless and someone who has been farming for 2 months with a full set of current season will treat you as a 50 cent ******. Not because of skill but because of the blown up stats the gear has between the tiers.

 

WoW has moved on from the old skill before gear system and the devs are having an insane time matching the gear stats to benefit people who farm it and those who dont.

 

If you want an idea of how long it would take you to get the entire pvp set with weapons at a 2200+ conq cap it would take you 3 and a half months total. Which is usually around the time they are cycling the new seasons now so guess what. You wouldn't finish getting everything before your done unless blizz decides to raise the season cycling which they are thinking about it.

 

As far as money goes.

 

A full set of enchants will now cost you close to 4k gold if not more depending on your server. Alot of the top end pvp enchants are rare due to the fact no one wants to farm the rep needed to get them making some pvp enchants up to 1k+. You cap at 25 dailies a day giving you an estimated 500g a day from dailies. Enjoy yourself.

 

So yes. Go back to wow. lmao you have no idea how nicely spoiled every PVPer in this game is.

 

PS. i can make 7mil in no time selling med pacs. Hell since ive been playing this game for a while now ive made close to 13mil selling medpacs and pvping across all my toons. Sounds like you just need to learn about what hardwork is instead of wanting a free ride.

 

PSS. can i have your stuff? just want to make sure if you come back you learn from your mistake.

 

1) pvp gear is now capped at the lower end arena set in arenas/wz's.

 

2) I am having no problem kicking the @$@$ out of people in malevolent gear (that I had when I left).

 

3) When I want to play with friends who aren't "arena vets"? In5.3 I can go in a warzone where healers are capped/matched, and get a competitive game, and have fun with them.

 

So yeah, WoW is bad...if you don't like being able to compete in high end pvp people care about, have fun with RL friends who are kind of "noobish" in non ranked.

Couldnt agree more with everything you've said .. Unfortunately, just like the server merges, the only way Bioware learns or responds is to monetary losses ..

 

They've really screwed this one up and more firings, Im sure, are underway.

Anyways this is my last post on this forum.

 

Don't be a liar, keep true to your word!

I don't think the lag is a bandwidth issue. There's something causing the frame rate to randomly drop in the WZs and you take a corresponding degradation in your ability to react when you're getting single digit frame rates.

1) pvp gear is now capped at the lower end arena set in arenas/wz's.

 

2) I am having no problem kicking the @$@$ out of people in malevolent gear (that I had when I left).

 

3) When I want to play with friends who aren't "arena vets"? In5.3 I can go in a warzone where healers are capped/matched, and get a competitive game, and have fun with them.

 

So yeah, WoW is bad...if you don't like being able to compete in high end pvp people care about, have fun with RL friends who are kind of "noobish" in non ranked.

 

 

Im good. You can say all you want i am just giving you facts straight up facts. I wont get into internet pissing contests i don't need to impress you.

 

But like i said. -Can i have your stuff so when u come back you can think of me? Ill gladly keep it on a bank toon and when you return you can ask me for it i just want to relish myself with the rememberance of this post.

 

BTW can i have your name / server on wow? i still have my annual pass active for a few more months. The only thing i do on wow is arena and rateds when my guild needs me.

Some people think the lag is caused my another instance of that warzone being created.