EDGEY-TB Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Been over an hour now, waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomlash Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 DPS detected. Tanks and heals get really fast pops...wait, no they don't. Groupfinder still sucks for ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoUniverseBC Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 They are 8 man now, nobody queues for operations ever pop anyways. It's better to just start a group on the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc_n_lol Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Well, now that people know that the group finder comms are broken, and that 8-man rewards still suck *** because Bioware sure loves their 16-man ops for whatever reason, you're gonna be waiting for a very long itme because no-one in their right mind would get in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Well, now that people know that the group finder comms are broken, and that 8-man rewards still suck *** because Bioware sure loves their 16-man ops for whatever reason, you're gonna be waiting for a very long itme because no-one in their right mind would get in there. Typical elitist view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc_n_lol Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Typical elitist view. What are you even talking about ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATAMIANM Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Well, now that people know that the group finder comms are broken, and that 8-man rewards still suck *** because Bioware sure loves their 16-man ops for whatever reason, you're gonna be waiting for a very long itme because no-one in their right mind would get in there. I'm going to put in my $0.02 here. I initially thought it was a good idea to put ops in the GF. Having gone through a few in the past week, I now think it is a bad idea. I have 3 toons, all of them well-geared 55 DPS and heals, all of whom have completed DF/DP SM and some DP HM. The GF option was better in 16M because weaker players can be carried. I completed 2 16-man ops (DF and SV) using GF and they went smoothly, even though we had some bolstered players new to the ops. There were enough experienced tanks and healers to carry. 8-man is another story. The problem is too many players unfamiliar with the op join and in 8-man there is a limit to how many can be carried. I have been in 2-3 8-man GF queues and all have failed miserably. Last night I was in DP with 2 new tanks and 2 new DPS. It was a disaster, despite the tanks picking things up quickly. Multiple wipes on Bestia, several on Tyrans, and we never got through Calphayus after 4 tries. Went through something like one tank, 3 heals, and 2 dps rage quitting. Did the new people learn a lot? I think so. But anyone just in it for comms is probably wasting their time, because you will likely never get to the weekly, never mind the entire op for the bonus comms. and you'll rack up a fortune in repair costs. I don't think this is an elitist mentality. It is just practical. Experienced ops runners are better off starting their own groups and doing SM raids. Unless they join solely to help other players, which can be fun at times. It may be as time goes on and more people get ops experience, these GF problems may go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewitchdoctor Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Typical elitist view. Care to explain how he is wrong instead of a drive-by quipping? Well, now that people know that the group finder comms are broken This a true statement. It is broken. See here: 2.8a Patch Notes. and that 8-man rewards still suck *** A bit overboard, but, yes, 16-man rewards are higher than 8-man, so, barring the drama the statement itself is still 'correct.' because Bioware sure loves their 16-man ops for whatever reason Again, overly dramatic but, as BW themseleves said: 16-man ops are better for this endeavour than 8-man. you're gonna be waiting for a very long itme As evidenced by the OP's question ... because no-one in their right mind would get in there. As evidenced by the OP's question. With the 16-man queue 'broken,' folks are back to their prior habit pattern: forming a PUG 16-man SM of some flavour on Fleet. How was that 'elitist?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewitchdoctor Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 The GF option was better in 16M because weaker players can be carried. I believe that was BW's logic too. They returned it to 8-man because of a (seemingly) unforeseen load on the servers. Hopefully they can fix that and put it back to 16-man for the GF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidelicatessen Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Typical elitist view. I'm getting used to seeing this as Alrik's response nearly any time someone makes an assertion. @Alrik: maybe make that your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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