paowee Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) 2 - Roll around like an idiot ... right into a puddle of off the cliff...sounds awesome Or roll into safety.. remember you are immune to single target attacks and (from my raiding in the pts) makes you also immune to AE attacks. The roll can save you many times. Plus it's wonderful for Engineering PVE DPS in some boss fights Edited March 18, 2013 by paowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODTONE Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) thanx for the info about the new trees havent been able to check pts. im sabo and Im liking the looks of press the advantage lol scatter bombs im liking how its getting more gadget oriented in sabo, to me a cd on my charges is a big deal. Edited March 22, 2013 by ODTONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfmartin Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I was on the PTS at the start 2.0 but leave it I tried the 3 hybrid, DF, and sharpshooter. I only speak for PvE : HYBRID : http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-calculator/gunslinger/226/?build=023000000000000000000000000000000223300022101002000000000000000002300221012220210120000000000000&ver=20 I think it is the worst now.... because you have enougn energy regen with alacrity and lower cost, so you don't need the sabotage's charge anymore (even if does a nice amount of damages, it is more PvP burst than constant dps) Also shock charge is quite useless, you really don't need it... it's not a bleed so it don't increase wounding shot and it don't give energy regen. And if you look, a Speedshot or aiming shot deals more damage... DF : http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-calculator/gunslinger/226/?build=023000000000000000000000000000000023000000000000000000000000000002300221012220212120301103200100&ver=20 The proc of quickdraw is really insane. Because it have 45% to proc on EACH dmg from wounding shot. wounding shot deals dmg 3 times, and we are using 2 weapons so it even have a chance to hit more. So it is about 95% proc chance. Concussion is more usefull than you think, because you can pre-dot a mazed ennemy for a burst, and you can use you shrapnell without thinking "no aoe, there are mazed ennemies" Hotwired defense is also good for some fight who are damaging all the raid. Defensive screen already protect a lot, it will protect more . Incendary mines is the more useless of new talents.... but it still have a nice 70% slow and it increase dodge duraction by 1 sec. So it's nice if you have to tank after an XS for example. Sharpshooter : http://pts.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-calculator/gunslinger/226/?build=223002202020211121220320111000000023000000000000000000000000000002300000000000000000000000000000&ver=20 I didn't saw it at start but look at the new trickshot... it refresh like all the time ! aim shot => trickshot => [ quickdraw (if below 30%) => trickshot (if below 30%)] => speed shot => trickshot => charged burst x2 (-5 energy each) => trickshot Also quick aim is not a proc anymore, so you can start with the aim shot And for a PvP guy.... stay low and heads up, you are like immune to control (+ sprint)... I don't really know wich is the best, but I really think these full sharp or DF are better than our old hybrid... especially to dps a boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarethRiker Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Are you sure Shock Charge is not counting as a bleed? I thought it still was. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the points in Arsonist vs. Cold Blooded. will be interesting to see hybrid vs full df parses and what crit ratings are required now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfmartin Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Yes I'm sure. Checking it is really easy : use only chock charge on your target, and use wounding shot. If you show all your damage (or look into the combat log), you won't see any bonus damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning_ Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 It was proven at this forum that Shock Charge does indeed count for WS, however, max 2 effects count. So with all three DoTs on the target, WS will still only benefit from two. If you want you can search for original posts on this topic, it was not that long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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