FRISKI Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 So, heres the deal with PvP in the next patch from what I've seen tonight: It doesn't matter how much dps your team has, because healers + tanks work way too well together. Just did a voidstar against a team of 2 tanks 4 healers 2 dps. Our team couldn't kill anything, and they just defended the doors and capped the doors by existing. Huttball worked much the same. Can't kill anyone, just whoever picks up the ball gets the cap. CC the pedestal when the ball spawns, and you win! Novare Coast. 3+ healers on each team. Just sat around shooting flurry of bolts at whoever tried to cap a turret because neither team was ever going to kill anyone. Hate everything about it, Specially the part where you know it's already true on the current patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch_Akurei Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 here's my problem with this whole deal. Bioware is nerfing the least played class in the entire *********** game. There are more sages/sorcs than there are agents/smugglers. One advanced class outnumbers an entire core class, and they decide to nerf scoundrels. I just don't see the logic behind it. If bioware has a thought process behind this nerf, it's almost definitely linked directly to their wallets. + a million internets for you. ^^^ this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakyl Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 the dudes over @ sithwarrior have some rough dps logs: Annihilation Marauder (1500) Watchmen Sentinel (1500) Scrapper Scoundrel (1450) Concealment Operative (1450) Assassin (1350) Shadow (1350) Arsenal Mercenary (1350) Gunnery Commando (1350) Sniper (1325) Gunslinger (1325) Rage Juggernaut (1300) Focus Guardian (1300) Sorcerer (1250) Sage (1250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulkweazel Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 the dudes over @ sithwarrior have some rough dps logs: Annihilation Marauder (1500) Watchmen Sentinel (1500) Scrapper Scoundrel (1450) Concealment Operative (1450) Assassin (1350) Shadow (1350) Arsenal Mercenary (1350) Gunnery Commando (1350) Sniper (1325) Gunslinger (1325) Rage Juggernaut (1300) Focus Guardian (1300) Sorcerer (1250) Sage (1250) Link please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhat Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Can marauders do as much damage while moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerB Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Pedia, Have you had much more time on PTS to give an update to your earlier observations and takeaways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerB Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Link please. agree, link please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkeger Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 agree, link please Geez. Just go to the site and look for it. I found it in under a minute. Lazy, that's what you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashTactics Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Geez. Just go to the site and look for it. I found it in under a minute. Lazy, that's what you are. It took more effort to write that sentence and start this impending argument than it would have to just link the page and have it be done with. He may be lazy, but at least he isn't stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryges Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Geez. Just go to the site and look for it. I found it in under a minute. Lazy, that's what you are. I have looked around the site and I have yet to find these logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohitei Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Here's my problem with this whole deal. Bioware is nerfing the least played class in the entire *********** game. There are more Sages/Sorcs than there are Agents/Smugglers. One advanced class outnumbers an entire core class, and they decide to nerf Scoundrels. I just don't see the logic behind it. If Bioware has a thought process behind this nerf, it's almost definitely linked directly to their wallets. I am still laughing XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteypie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 the dudes over @ sithwarrior have some rough dps logs: Annihilation Marauder (1500) Watchmen Sentinel (1500) Scrapper Scoundrel (1450) Concealment Operative (1450) Assassin (1350) Shadow (1350) Arsenal Mercenary (1350) Gunnery Commando (1350) Sniper (1325) Gunslinger (1325) Rage Juggernaut (1300) Focus Guardian (1300) Sorcerer (1250) Sage (1250) source please, i have been searching sithwarrior.com for 30 mins now. either i suck or you suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Seven Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 source please, i have been searching sithwarrior.com for 30 mins now. either i suck or you suck I could not find it either and would greatly appreciate a link. These stats are being passed around the forums like a "left-handed" cigarette and could lead to faulty-metric interpretation by the Dev Team. I am assuming the forums are where they get their information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgiveme Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 We all know where he pulled his numbers from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbadisbad Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 We all know where he pulled his numbers from. His arse. I lol'd hard when I saw that post say Operatives/Scoundrels put out more DPS than everyone but Sents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerB Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 His arse. I lol'd hard when I saw that post say Operatives/Scoundrels put out more DPS than everyone but Sents. I agree, hence his attitude when I originally asked for the link. Apparently you all are lazy too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanous Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 the dudes over @ sithwarrior have some rough dps logs: Annihilation Marauder (1500) Watchmen Sentinel (1500) Scrapper Scoundrel (1450) Concealment Operative (1450) Assassin (1350) Shadow (1350) Arsenal Mercenary (1350) Gunnery Commando (1350) Sniper (1325) Gunslinger (1325) Rage Juggernaut (1300) Focus Guardian (1300) Sorcerer (1250) Sage (1250) Ah I see the problem! They forgot to add a decimal before the '0' for scoundrel/ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogar Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Concealment/scrapper DPS on a target dummy is a non factor anyway. The reason this spec is not suited for PvE is the down time on actual boss fights. That's why I'm looking for numbers for lethality/dirty fighting. Actually, these numbers are what I expected from your two parses. You both get about the same DPS but if you look closely there is a huge difference. The second log average damage on every ability is about 20-25% better than on the first one (PvE gear vs PvP gear mainly). That means the first log has a ton more effective rotation (but miss the orbital strike/freighter) and the second one has the gear. If you combine both of them you should reach 1400-1450. I would still like to find the source of these numbers though :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuschell Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Pedia I'm sure this has been asked but I don't have time to scroll through 17 pages, how would you rate your warzone performence on the pts, how has your damage looked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePedia Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Pedia I'm sure this has been asked but I don't have time to scroll through 17 pages, how would you rate your warzone performence on the pts, how has your damage looked? Doesn't really matter how much damage you pump out. Game is all about tanks and healers. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuschell Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Sweet glad I play a balance shadow and a scrapper scoundrel, and I refuse to go kinetic combat and sawbones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizel Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Pedia I'm sure this has been asked but I don't have time to scroll through 17 pages, how would you rate your warzone performence on the pts, how has your damage looked? Funny you should ask, here's a match from this evening with Pedia and myself (I'm Exalted on test) in it. http://i.imgur.com/n3fzv.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakyl Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 the info is rough, and wouldn't rely on anything, as the admin from sithwarrior.com mentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotndrop Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Will buffs and de-buffs be detachable from the unit frames? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomblade Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Do you have the stats on the crafted new war hero gear for armormech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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