Goretzu Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Space missions get a lot of hate on the forums but there's actually a surprising number of players who enjoy them, and play them often. Assuming no one likes something just because you don't is pretty short-sighted. I dunno. I used to do them a LOT, there was never many others doing them at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshpet Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I'm all for more space missions, but I'd rather we got "off the rails" and had more of an open space combat system. (JtLS!!!) The missions are fun, but well, stuck on the rails is boring after the 6th, 7th 100+th time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Dwarf Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I may be in the minority, but I enjoy the space missions and look forward to pushing my Thunderclap to the limit! The Impossible Sector was getting far too possible anyway... Hope they fix the Thunderclap bug, or you will wish you had another ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Are there any plans to offer a more tie fight style flight sim to the game. By this I don't just mean 3d space which should have been in the moment space was discussed. But also quests and follow on missions where having completed a b and c it comes back in tour 5 or so and with cool effects such as joining the secret order of the emporer. A game that came out in 1994 shows what could be done in an MMO today. And this would add much to the options once you hit level 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruug Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 There is nothing "heroic" about any of the current space missions. Same will be said about the new ones. At the best, so-called space combat in this game is nothing more then a pretty arcade shooter. Might as well be "Space Aliens" or some other type of arcade game. Probably about the only thing about this game that really disappoints me is the current (and future) space game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZORG Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 From http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/22517-bioware-livestream-q-a-coverage Q: How is the super space project doing? Does it exist? Schubert: Oh, it exists. Hickman: I was actually playing what you're talking about yesterday, running through the prototype demo. I wish I could give you details. It's great. It's a departure from our current space game. We have a team dedicated to working on it. But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon. Schubert: It is under wraps. It is a lot of fun. It's definitely not anything we've shipped in the original product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikHar Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Why continue to keep the same rail space mini-games most players hate? I'm sure BioWare has heard/ seen the many comments against the way space is now. Yet instead of spending time working to change it to a free roam, dog fighting pvp space where players actually control their ships, they're now adding more of the same type missions. Then heroic space missions where you need new ship items just to compete and their prices are ridiculously high. At this point and time BioWare is desperate just to keep the small current amount of players they have and instead of trying to lure more players in, they continue on their same path. Makes little or no sense whatsoever. Edited November 29, 2012 by RikHar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deewe Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 We aren't pilots on this game we are train drivers, **snip** Not really, in a train you can change your speed and stop. Not even in TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarekCyphus Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 From http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/22517-bioware-livestream-q-a-coverage Q: How is the super space project doing? Does it exist? Schubert: Oh, it exists. Hickman: I was actually playing what you're talking about yesterday, running through the prototype demo. I wish I could give you details. It's great. It's a departure from our current space game. We have a team dedicated to working on it. But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon. Schubert: It is under wraps. It is a lot of fun. It's definitely not anything we've shipped in the original product. I was fairly satisfied to read that, too. Anything more innovative than what we currently have will be BETTER than what we have. For now, my hunger is abated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United_Strafes Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 No you didn't mention the proton torpedo hits. Did we mention that no one has proton torpedoes because they've been broken.....well since release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demotivator Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 No you didn't mention the proton torpedo hits. Did we mention that no one has proton torpedoes because they've been broken.....well since release? I don't mind space as it is in TOR, never did, but hell when I read that proton torpedoes would likely be required for these missions I just got scared. I do hope that they fixed them because the way they worked made them completely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoop Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 for a mini game its ... meh for star wars space combat .... its utter garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyOldMystic Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 "From http://www.darthhater.com/articles/s...m-q-a-coverage Q: How is the super space project doing? Does it exist? Schubert: Oh, it exists. Hickman: I was actually playing what you're talking about yesterday, running through the prototype demo. I wish I could give you details. It's great. It's a departure from our current space game. We have a team dedicated to working on it. But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon. Schubert: It is under wraps. It is a lot of fun. It's definitely not anything we've shipped in the original product." How accurate is this information? For me I can wait for a full JTL if I know for a fact they are indeed working on a swtor version of it, but what drives me insane is lack of information. Say a Developer comes on and says here we have some space heroics for our current space rail shooter, but we are still very much working on a complete overhaul of the space setup. My posts would hold a entirely different tone. From one of anger to one of Ok well they are still working on a JTL version of swtor, so ill just have to be patience. Lack of word on this subject is just not cool, and frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumuji Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I loved space missiosn at the beginning but realized they were mostly for immersion. They worked well in that respect but it was something I didn't want to repeat over and over and over. I don't do them at all on my alts because they're not very practicle in it's current state. Anything to add mroe interaction and replay value would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papragu Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Bwahahaha this is my favourite part in the Blog "The vastness of space. Mostly unexplored, yet teeming with life and possibilities. Many spacers enjoy the serenity of the stars, the peace of floating through the Unknown Regions, wondering if they’re seeing events and phenomena never before witnessed by intelligent life." What vastness?? What floating?? That vastness consits of 4 different locations and that floating is driving on rails. Please stop trying to sell lead as gold. Make a real space combat or just let it be and fix the bugs. My companions lightsaber is still sticking through her body when it is holstered, Taxi disappears in mid flight, Give us more mini content. Nar Shadaa has casinos with no purpose, all the slot machines with no use. Put in mini games. Then you have chairs, stools, benches everywhere but you cant sit on them?? Give us pod racing. So many things that could make this game better and all you guys give us is some polished old content. Are the devs really lack that much imagination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Space missions get a lot of hate on the forums but there's actually a surprising number of players who enjoy them, and play them often. Assuming no one likes something just because you don't is pretty short-sighted. I absolutely hate them... and i do them over and over and over again, because they are easy XP and easy money. And some of those pilot outfits are cool, so i have to do a ton of missions for those... I know that Biowares metrics are showing them that players "like" the missions since they are playing them alot, but most are like me, using it for cheap xp and credits but dont really like doing them... I find them a mindless act of repetition and endless frustration since i cannot choose where to fly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 From http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/22517-bioware-livestream-q-a-coverage Q: How is the super space project doing? Does it exist? Schubert: Oh, it exists. Hickman: I was actually playing what you're talking about yesterday, running through the prototype demo. I wish I could give you details. It's great. It's a departure from our current space game. We have a team dedicated to working on it. But it is far out in the future. You won't hear anything about it any time soon. Schubert: It is under wraps. It is a lot of fun. It's definitely not anything we've shipped in the original product. Unfortunately all that means is: something is coming in 2014..... maybe. And nothing else. It could be co-op on-the-rails, it could be some sort of guild ship combat, it could be JTL........ or it could be none of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I absolutely hate them... and i do them over and over and over again, because they are easy XP and easy money. And some of those pilot outfits are cool, so i have to do a ton of missions for those... I know that Biowares metrics are showing them that players "like" the missions since they are playing them alot, but most are like me, using it for cheap xp and credits but dont really like doing them... I find them a mindless act of repetition and endless frustration since i cannot choose where to fly... I've pretty much completely given up on them now, but like you I did a lot of them whilst actively hating them. I didn't mind them intially, but the way they tied them into a GRIND really got to me. Although it would be better if there was score system........... but frankly it would be better still if so many didn't just BOT them forcing Bioware EA to nerf them because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklordpotter Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 More hideously overpriced gear to grind another couple of missions of rail shooting repetitively. Be still my beating heart! \sarcasm. I play the space missions whilst levelling and even I find this boring. Also as other people have said your new favourite feature is an...ammo counter seriously? An ammo counter that's the best you could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuegFett Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 For a second there I was misled into believing that "Heroic Space Missions" would be multiplayer. BioWare, is it possible to create, like, a two-player Space Mission? That would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateris Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Were going off the rails eventually and will have a proper Space game/. You will have to watch the recorded live stream from the devs to hear it. The devs stated it would be a while though. Can I guesstimate next fall of 2013? Edited November 30, 2012 by Lateris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurmez Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Were going off the rails eventually and will have a proper Space game/. You will have to watch the recorded live stream from the devs to hear it. The devs stated it would be a while though. Can I guesstimate next fall of 2013? You can guess but chances are you are wrong, "soon" means 6-9 months minimum, the kind of words they are using to describe the timeframe I would say 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatarless Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Can't help but think this is yet another waste of resources and time that could have been better spent fixing or creating new content for the game in other areas. Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vego_Mohenjo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'm always astonished at how obtinately they refuse to make a decent space game. It doesn't have to be a full-on space sim, but we need to be free to go where we want. Space should be every bit as developed as planet surfaces. When I played Galaxies, I enjoyed just flying around the space zones, exploring, parking by some asteroids and looking out the windows of my Y-8, or what have you. I mean, the best selling Star Wars game of all time was a flight sim (Tie Fighter, if you're wondering). You can't make a Star Wars game without the STARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jak-Jak Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Bioware is trolling hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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