JaingSkiratapwns Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Arsenal/gunnery is good right now, I don't see why this thread is still around. Pyro/assault spec is bad, but I don't see why you think that's going to change anytime soon, it's not like you are the only class that has a useless spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhalDrogoe Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have no problem 1v1 anyone with my 0/28/18 Hybrid Spec. It's quite hilarious to wonder what they're thinking as my merc just dominates them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Assassin Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have no problem 1v1 anyone with my 0/28/18 Hybrid Spec. It's quite hilarious to wonder what they're thinking as my merc just dominates them. Let me know when they open ranked 1v1's. Then I'll ask for that spec. For the time being, I was hoping for a bit more viability in team, rankeds and PvP in general...Team PvP, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerinnAybara Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Arsenal/gunnery is good right now, I don't see why this thread is still around. Pyro/assault spec is bad, but I don't see why you think that's going to change anytime soon, it's not like you are the only class that has a useless spec. That's because you're not seeing it from the perspective of a Mercenary trying to get into rateds. We're not good enough. Do we have an execute? Do we have a heal debuff (like snipers) Do we provide a crowd aoe shield? Do we provide much utility? Do we have an aoe denial of area ability (snipers) Under focus, does our damage remain the same? (Snipers and other damage classes) Snipers execute is silly in how much damage it does and only way to dodge it is to los. While basically every ability in our belt is shutdown by ranged and melee interrupts, as well as stuns and knockbacks. Snipers don't have that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoomazir Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 HSM should be an autocrit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaingSkiratapwns Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 That's because you're not seeing it from the perspective of a Mercenary trying to get into rateds. We're not good enough. Do we have an execute? Do we have a heal debuff (like snipers) Do we provide a crowd aoe shield? Do we provide much utility? Do we have an aoe denial of area ability (snipers) Under focus, does our damage remain the same? (Snipers and other damage classes) Snipers execute is silly in how much damage it does and only way to dodge it is to los. While basically every ability in our belt is shutdown by ranged and melee interrupts, as well as stuns and knockbacks. Snipers don't have that issue. No,I know where you are coming from. I've played one before. I've also played dps scoundrel, which is probably welcomed even less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluntron Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) No,I know where you are coming from. I've played one before. I've also played dps scoundrel, which is probably welcomed even less. I know an Op that will shut down anyone. So dont go and try saying that Ops are underpowered. Edited May 12, 2013 by Bluntron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaingSkiratapwns Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I know an Op that will shut down anyone. So dont go and try saying that Ops are underpowered. Kudus to him, but its still not a good spec, shadow is better in every way. It's not welcome in ranked, I didn't say it wasn't a PUG stomper. It can stomp baddies all day. Edited May 12, 2013 by JaingSkiratapwns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCourier- Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I know an Op that will shut down anyone. So dont go and try saying that Ops are underpowered. Operative is awful at killing healers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluntron Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Kudus to him, but its still not a good spec, shadow is better in every way. It's not welcome in ranked, I didn't say it wasn't a PUG stomper. It can stomp baddies all day. You wont see me disagreeing there. but shades and sins are the most balanced class in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerinnAybara Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 HSM should be an autocrit. Maybe make it consume tracer lock stacks, or perhaps the unload proc. That would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Assassin Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Page 3, again Well, this is my last post...I'm out. Been a great 2+years of playing. O.G. Mercenary Firebug. Fun game, great times in PvP...Times change. Good Luck Mercenaries. Ret'urcye mhi. Verd ori'shya beskar'gam!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Page 3, again Well, this is my last post...I'm out. Been a great 2+years of playing. O.G. Mercenary Firebug. Fun game, great times in PvP...Times change. Good Luck Mercenaries. Ret'urcye mhi. Verd ori'shya beskar'gam!! Good luck. I'm getting BF4 this year so i can have some fun until Camelot Unchained a game i have backed that comes out 2015.Gona play SWTOR a few more month to see whats going on just to be up to date, but sadly i see little future for PvP in this game.Instanced WZ is old alredy and they dont care about open world pvp what so ever Well gonna play my new commando and see how the class is now. Deleted my first warhero commando because the class was crap for 1 year lol. Doesnt matter.Atleast there is hope in Blizzard and Titan(what ever that is) Edited May 13, 2013 by Lord_Karsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaimelion Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I fkn love my Commando... http://imgur.com/qH91Uf7 http://imgur.com/WMjDQ1T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Page 3, again Well, this is my last post...I'm out. Been a great 2+years of playing. O.G. Mercenary Firebug. Fun game, great times in PvP...Times change. Good Luck Mercenaries. Ret'urcye mhi. Verd ori'shya beskar'gam!! I hate to see you go...I understand, but you'll be missed. I hope to meet up with you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerinnAybara Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Page 3, again Well, this is my last post...I'm out. Been a great 2+years of playing. O.G. Mercenary Firebug. Fun game, great times in PvP...Times change. Good Luck Mercenaries. Ret'urcye mhi. Verd ori'shya beskar'gam!! Salute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBloodloss Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I switched to Arsenal yesterday. It pisses me off how bad Pyro sucks in comparison. Arsenal: 1) Heatseeker can crit for over 9k with average gear 2) Hydraulic Overrides are active 10 out of every 25 seconds Bonus) Armor debuff Pyro: 1) Thermal Detonator sucks (no burst) 2) Hydraulic Overrides are active 6 out of every 30 seconds Offense: When I switch back and forth between specs, the only attacks that change are Thermal>Heatseeker, and Incendiary>Tracer. The two main pyro attacks suck in comparison to the two main Arsenal attacks. Defense: Their defense is about the same. But Arsenal has a better Hydraulic Override which is probably the best defensive tool we have. I really see them as nearly identical except for Arsenal has to figure out when and where to use Tracer Missiles, and the payoff is way more damage and the ability to actually burst someone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 arsenal also now has the active cooldown redux on energy shield, and a minor absorb proc when you take damage, plus the shorter power surge cooldown and double use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandoforlife Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 arsenal also now has the active cooldown redux on energy shield, and a minor absorb proc when you take damage, plus the shorter power surge cooldown and double use. Yup. I mean, I'm all for the buffs to Arsenal, but Pyro is pretty terrible for PvP at this point. Increasing the proc rate of CGC made the Missile Salvo application pointless and nerfed CGC damage. The Thermal Det change is what killed it though. Rollback those two changes and you're golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerinnAybara Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 They need to rollback the cgc nerf. At least for mercenaries. IF anything they should've increased the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 They need to rollback the cgc nerf. At least for mercenaries. IF anything they should've increased the damage. that and the TD change, which was brought about by 1 obnoxious person whining that TD didnt have proper synergy with the spec.... /facepalm im quite mad about the nerf to pyro... it was my favorite spec to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDragonflame Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Arsenal mercs near to OP now, so begins preparing for nerf, cuz 9k crits from 30m range, self-healing, and ''i-win" electronet button against any melee or healer seems a bit too powerful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Arsenal mercs near to OP now, so begins preparing for nerf, cuz 9k crits from 30m range, self-healing, and ''i-win" electronet button against any melee or healer seems a bit too powerful... do you play a merc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDragonflame Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 do you play a merc? Leveling little commando now, but meet quite strong mercs on warzones low-55 and especially 55 Strong self-healing abilities together with electronet and significal damage burst makes them very dangerous in right hands. Remove self-healing, and they will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Leveling little commando now, but meet quite strong mercs on warzones low-55 and especially 55 Strong self-healing abilities together with electronet and significal damage burst makes them very dangerous in right hands. Remove self-healing, and they will be fine. uh, yea....... no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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