ya anakin was a noob still and also I thought that the force is better for some people in different areas. Like even as a kid Anakin could win the pod racing crap and he was the best pilot in the universe as an adult. Obi was pretty much fighting only.

 

Still though I was dissapointed as well. I think the movie would have been much better if it showed something like Anakin eventually disarming Obi Wan and then pausing (he hadn't completely turned yet) and then something like a small discussion and then Anakin gets his nerve back right as Obi using force pull to get his lightsaber and then obi wan injures Anakin pretty severely since Anakin's guard was down. Then the whole thing of don't try it Anakin I am at the advantage would have been a great scene. At this point Anakin's rage could have gotten him killed. This would give the scene the meaning Lucas wanted and the fans what they wanted.

Basically if you will look at the fight Anakin was angry and most of the time when you fight out of anger you will not pay attention to what you are doing.

 

Obi-Wan on the other hand remained calm during the fight. It was until the fight was over that he got upset and reminded Anakin he was suppose to destroy the Sith not join them, bring the force in balance, not in shambles.. (parphasing).

 

Should Anakin have kept his emotions in check it might have turned out differently. He may have looked for a better opening than just jumping when Obi-Wan was already standing there. He didn't he let his emotions cloud his judgment.

Basically if you will look at the fight Anakin was angry and most of the time when you fight out of anger you will not pay attention to what you are doing.

 

Obi-Wan on the other hand remained calm during the fight. It was until the fight was over that he got upset and reminded Anakin he was suppose to destroy the Sith not join them, bring the force in balance, not in shambles.. (parphasing).

 

Should Anakin have kept his emotions in check it might have turned out differently. He may have looked for a better opening than just jumping when Obi-Wan was already standing there. He didn't he let his emotions cloud his judgment.

 

Though Obi-Wan took a big gamble on the cliff, how was he suppose to know it was going to work? He may have kept his emotions in check sure, but that moment could have swung in two different directions.

I always felt like Obi-Wan was the real Hero of Star Wars just like Samwise was the Real hero of Lord of the Rings.

I always felt like Obi-Wan was the real Hero of Star Wars just like Samwise was the Real hero of Lord of the Rings.

 

That's because it's a family tradition to be a Hero in Star Wars. Ewan McGregor's uncle is Dennis Lawson, who played a minor character in the OT and survived all three movies. He also did something important in each one.

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2012 by Captain_Zone

Maybe Obi-Wan was a master of the basics. You see it all the time in sports. A guy with less physical talent beating a flashier player, because he is well versed in the basics, and can use them to their full advantage.

Though Obi-Wan took a big gamble on the cliff, how was he suppose to know it was going to work? He may have kept his emotions in check sure, but that moment could have swung in two different directions.

 

Did he actually take a gamble on the cliff or did he know what Anakin would most likely do? How many times had Anakin gotten angry before while Obi-Wan was training him? Anakin was never known for patience or serenity. Anakin most likely had a history of anger and something I am willing to bet Obi-Wan knew very well.

I always felt like Obi-Wan was the real Hero of Star Wars just like Samwise was the Real hero of Lord of the Rings.

 

Luke is the hero of Star Wars. He is the only one who believes in the redemptive power of love. The Jedi think love is dangerous. They believe Vader cannot possibly be redeemed. Palpatine doesn't believe that Vader can be redeemed either. Both the Jedi and the Sith underestimate the power of love to redeem and change. Luke is the hero because he had faith when no one (including Obi Wan or Yoda) did. That faith and love for his father is what ultimately saved the galaxy.

Edited May 17, 2012 by RDeanOU

EVERY time i watch STAR WARS i always wonder, Anakin Skywalker is supposed to really powerful right?

But why does Obi-wan Kenobi seem more powerful? im just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.

 

Why are you watching the prequels again?

As it has been mentioned, Obi-Wan was more powerful because he was in control. Obi was written as the poster child of the Jedi Order, he had mastered the force to a level where he could stay completely calm and unattached in a combat while Anakin while had more "strength" had less control, even before he took a walk on the Dark Side.

 

There is no point of having power if you can't control it. It's how Obi-Wan won each of his battles since Maul. Which brings me to an interesting point, Obi-Wan won his fight in the complete opposite position to how he won the Darth Maul duel... And he had to jump even higher than Anakin...

Did he actually take a gamble on the cliff or did he know what Anakin would most likely do? How many times had Anakin gotten angry before while Obi-Wan was training him? Anakin was never known for patience or serenity. Anakin most likely had a history of anger and something I am willing to bet Obi-Wan knew very well.

 

He took a gamble on the cliff, the future is always in motion. If Obi-Wan had swung even just slightly different, or too soon or too late he was a dead man.

 

 

Ya, ya its from a game. But that could have happened.

Obi-Wan is not more powerful than Anakin. He's the son of the Force. Obi-Wan did beat Maul and Anakin, and Grievous. He also lost to Doooku. Anakin beat Dooku and lost to Obi-Wan. If the outcomes of battles were known before hand based on what we know of the abilities of the people than surely the weaker would avoid the stronger. Obi-Wan did master that 3rd form and it's masters are said to be invincible and Kenobi did have a knack for surviving some crazy things. And keep in mind for all you "he had the high ground" people, Kenobi beat Maul who had the high ground. Edited May 17, 2012 by LordQordisz

I'm pretty sure I watched a commentary somewhere (on the final fight scene) that said that Anakin was more powerful than Obi-Wan, but because they were close for so long, they both knew each other's style and moves to the point it was pretty much a stalemate of a duel. Makes sense that Obi-Wan used his knowledge of dark side arrogance to beat Anakin just like he did vs Darth Maul, albeit in apparently opposite methodology.

He took a gamble on the cliff, the future is always in motion. If Obi-Wan had swung even just slightly different, or too soon or too late he was a dead man.

 

 

Ya, ya its from a game. But that could have happened.

 

 

Maybe it could have but it didn't. Obi-Wan knew Anakin temper and knew his arroganace. Obi-wan used that to his advantage. You don't train someone and don't know what they can do. They had fought together for a long time and Anakin had temper and arrogance problems. Anakin even told Obi-Wan once he was better than Yoda in the Attack of the Clones.

 

If Anakin had not been angry and arrogant than things might have turned out differently but he didn't and that is what cost him the fight. Obi-Wan knew this and he used that to his advantage.

 

Sometimes you take a gamble using all the information you have on someone just as Obi-Wan did with Anakin . He used all the knowledge he had and the experiences he had with Anakin in the past and it paid off.

 

Could it turned out differently? Maybe if Anakin would have paid attention and not have been so angry and arrogant. He may have saw a different way but the fact remains he didn't. He thought he was unbeatable. He even told Padme he could destroy the emperor and they could rule the galaxy.

 

Someone that arrogant is always going to make a mistake and he did and it cost him the fight.

Edited May 17, 2012 by ScarletBlaze

Also keep in mind that Kenobi was really in tune with the Force. When he went to face Grievous it was his guide, "The Force..." did various things, almost like it took over his body, "..brought his lightsaber from his belt to his hand and ignited it", et cetera because "Obi-Wan wasn't even fighting. He was only a vessel, emptied of self. The Force, shaped by his skill and guided by his clarity of mind, fought through him". During that fight the Force whispered suggestions to him. I would suggest that Kenobi was not making any lucky guesses during his fight with Anakin. Rather the Force was with him. He was not only fighting these 4 droid bodyguards of Grievous but a bunch of other droids who came from the ceiling like rain. Edited May 17, 2012 by LordQordisz

Why are you watching the prequels again?

 

Cuz they're infinitely better looking & more interesting than the OT....

Cuz they're infinitely better looking & more interesting than the OT....

 

I'm going to pretend that I didn't see this post. @.@

"When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master."

Not really, he beat Dooku who was one of the jedi order's greatest swordmasters. Obi-Wan has only beaten Maul(even then he didn't kill him), and got whooped by Dooku twice.

 

Heck, he sliced Maul in half! And soresu was unneffective against makashi.

Obi-Wan is rarely portrayed as being stronger than Anakin per se - but certainly more experienced and refined.. His character by Ep III is the stereotypical Jedi Master; well-spoken and very precise and refined in the application of his power, even if ultimately he has less power than Anakin, who tends to use it more crudely.

 

Anakin in the prequels is more force-sensitive (technically with greater potential than Yoda) but the reason Obi-Wan is able to both compare favourably and, in Ep III, defeat him is because of more experience and finesse as opposed to raw power. Obi-Wan is the quintessential Jedi Master insofar as his talent lies in knowing when throwing power around is not necessary... Whilst Anakin jumps into the fray and throws his raw power at things with less thought, Obi tends to see, in a very Jedi way, the merit of applying the minimum force necessary to produce the desired effect.

 

Ultimately, re: the Dooku vs Obi thing, per the novel both Obi-Wan and Anakin are more than a match individually in a duel for Dooku by 19BBY on the Invisible Hand, but Obi gets caught off guard unluckily by Dooku's force attack; described as an act of desperation to try and stop their combined assault.

 

 

 

Heck, he sliced Maul in half! And soresu was unneffective against makashi.

 

Only in KotOR 2 game mechanics, lol... In the end, his Ep II defeat by Dooku in the duel was down to pure skill and experience - which Dooku had more of at the time.

Edited May 17, 2012 by QuiQuaeQuod

Why are you watching the prequels again?

 

it was a moment of weakness....i am shamed, i apologise.

It is due to Anakin being much stronger with the force whine ability.

Remember what Yoda said, Anakin although was the chosen one, the profecy may have been miss interpreted, just because he is the chosen one he is better than the rest, it just means that the force is stronger on him, and at the end Luke ended up stronger...

 

Obi Wan was his master with more combat experience, he was a tactical general in the Clone Wars. Thats why he said it was over because he had the higher ground, he knew the advantages and the tactical possition he had, Anakin was driven by hate and made a bad move.

Remember what Yoda said, Anakin although was the chosen one, the profecy may have been miss interpreted, just because he is the chosen one he is better than the rest, it just means that the force is stronger on him, and at the end Luke ended up stronger...

 

Obi Wan was his master with more combat experience, he was a tactical general in the Clone Wars. Thats why he said it was over because he had the higher ground, he knew the advantages and the tactical possition he had, Anakin was driven by hate and made a bad move.

 

Not to mention Obi-Wan's mastery of both Soresu and its sub-form, Trollesu. He would taunt his enemies into making a mistake and leaving themselves open.

Obi Wan is just the man, but Anakin is more powerful.