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Dread Fortress Attack Types

 

Nefra, Who Bars the Way

Nefra (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Twin Attack

 

F/T I/E:

  • Voice of the Masters

 

Gate Commander Draxus

Gate Commander Draxus (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Ranged Attack
  • Suppresive Fire

 

F/T I/E:

  • Poisoned

 

Subteroth

M/R K/E:

  • Melee Attack

 

F/T K/E:

  • Explosion (called Unknown Ability in log)

 

Dread Guard Dispatcher

F/T I/E:

  • Force Lightning

 

Dread Guard Corrupter

F/T I/E:

  • Mass Affliction
  • Afflict

 

Dread Guard Dismantler

M/R K/E:

  • Melee Attack
  • Obliterate

 

F/T K/E:

  • Strong Swipe

 

Dread Guard Despoiler

F/T K/E:

  • Afflict

 

Guardian of the Fortress

M/R K/E:

  • Melee Attack
  • Force Charge

 

F/T K/E:

  • Thundering Blast

 

Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge

Grob'Thok (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Melee Attack
  • Smash
  • Pipe Smash
  • Overhead Smash

 

F/T K/E:

  • Roar

 

Dreadful Uganught

M/R K/E:

  • Battering Assault
  • Assault

 

Corruptor Zero

Corruptor Zero (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Heavy Slash
  • Slash Attack
  • Sweeping Slash
  • Force Leap

 

F/T K/E:

  • Chest Laser
  • Single Laser
  • Double Lasers
  • Missile Barrage
  • Massive Slam

 

F/T I/E:

  • Bleeding
  • Burning

 

D-09 Corruption Droid

M/R K/E:

  • Sweeping Slash
  • Slash Attack

 

F/T K/E:

  • Single Laser

 

D-02 Corruption Droid

M/R K/E:

  • High Velocity Round

 

D-13 Corruption Droid

M/R K/E:

  • Melee Attack

 

D-15 Corruption Droid

M/R K/E:

  • Ranged Attack

 

F/T K/E:

  • Missile Salvo

 

Dread Master Brontes

Dread Master Brontes (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Beam Volley
  • Fire and Forget

 

F/T K/E:

  • Manifest Supremacy

 

F/T I/E:

  • Spike of Pain
  • Jolt
  • Arcing Assault

 

Right & Left Hand

M/R K/E:

  • Slam

 

D-09 Corruption Droid

M/R K/E:

  • Ranged Attack

 

Corrupted Clone

F/T K/E:

  • Laser Blast

 

Hand of Brontes

F/T K/E:

  • Forceful Slam

 

Energy Sphere

F/T I/E:

  • Energy Arc

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Dread Palace Attack Types

 

Dread Master Bestia

Dread Master Bestia (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Assault
  • Dread Charge
  • Dread Strike

 

F/T K/E:

  • Swelling Despair
  • Dread Scream

 

F/T I/E:

  • Combusting Seed
  • Dread Pool

 

Dread Monster

M/R K/E:

  • Squash
  • Swipe

 

F/T K/E

  • Pulverize

 

Dread Tentacle

M/R K/E:

  • Whip

 

F/T I/E:

  • Spit

 

Dread Larva

M/R K/E:

  • Swat
  • Burrow

 

F/T I/E:

  • Expectorate

 

Dread Master Tyrans

Dread Master Tyrans (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Shock

 

F/T K/E:

  • Smash
  • Thundering Blast

 

F/T I/E:

  • Affliction

 

Dread Master Calphayus

Dread Master Calphayus (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Strike
  • Force Charge

 

F/T K/E:

  • Inevitability
  • Overload

 

Ravager

M/R K/E:

  • Strike
  • Melee Attack

 

Despoiler

F/T K/E:

  • Shocked

 

Corruptor

F/T I/E:

  • Eternal Corruption

 

Dread Master Raptus

Dread Master Raptus (Boss)

M/R K/E:

  • Attack
  • Rising Attack
  • Slash Attack

 

F/T K/E:

  • Spinning Attack
  • Deadly Slash
  • Force Execution
  • Force Wave
  • Driving Thrust

 

Doomed Captive

F/T I/E:

  • Berserker Curse

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Note: All DTPS calculations are done pre-mitigation.

 

Dread Fortress Damage Ratios

 

Nefra

M/R K/E DTPS: 8017.74

F/T I/E DTPS: 195.63

Total DTPS: 8213.37

 

M/R K/E: 0.9762

F/T I/E: 0.0238

 

Gate Commander Draxus

M/R K/E DTPS: 2582.08

F/T K/E DTPS: 332.46

F/T I/E DTPS: 303.47

Total DTPS: 3218.01

 

M/R K/E: 0.8024

F/T K/E: 0.0651

F/T I/E: 0.0943

 

Grob'Thok

Boss Tank

M/R K/E DTPS: 3933.88

F/T K/E DTPS: 1504.63

Total DTPS: 5438.51

 

M/R K/E: 0.7233

F/T K/E: 0.2767

 

Corruptor Zero

M/R K/E DTPS: 2332.84

F/T K/E DTPS: 1506.44

F/T I/E DTPS: 339.95

Total DTPS: 4176.23

 

M/R K/E: 0.5586

F/T K/E: 0.3600

F/T I/E: 0.0814

 

Dread Master Brontes

M/R K/E DTPS: 1959.79

F/T K/E DTPS: 948.20

F/T I/E DTPS: 393.54

Total DTPS: 3301.53

 

M/R K/E: 0.5936

F/T K/E: 0.2873

F/T I/E: 0.1191

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Note: All DTPS calculations are done pre-mitigation.

 

Dread Palace Damage Ratios

 

Dread Master Bestia

M/R K/E DTPS: 2129.51

F/T K/E DTPS: 1488.19

F/T I/E DTPS: 60.73

Total DTPS: 3678.43

 

M/R K/E: 0.5789

F/T K/E: 0.4046

F/T I/E: 0.0165

 

Dread Master Tyrans

M/R K/E DTPS: 2675.99

F/T K/E DTPS: 1475.85

F/T I/E DTPS: 155.94

Total DTPS: 4307.78

 

M/R K/E: 0.6212

F/T K/E: 0.3426

F/T I/E: 0.0362

 

Dread Master Calphayus

M/R K/E DTPS: 3828.27

F/T K/E DTPS: 119.20

F/T I/E DTPS: 39.07

Total DTPS: 3986.54

 

M/R K/E: 0.9603

F/T K/E: 0.0299

F/T I/E: 0.0098

 

Dread Master Raptus

M/R K/E DTPS: 2877.02

F/T K/E DTPS: 1517.11

F/T I/E DTPS: 175.47

Total DTPS: 4569.60

 

M/R K/E: 0.6296

F/T K/E: 0.3320

F/T I/E: 0.0384

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I've added the attack types that I'm fairly sure about thus far.

 

The Damage Ratios I'm only basing on kills, since it's less likely unintended damage (e.g. Mass Affliction) will get mixed in with the data. Once we're able to get a larger sample of data, these will become much more accurate.

 

Feel free to post your own data and I'll add them to the mix.

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I am pretty sure Obliterate is not f/t attack. I actiaved force shroud once between the swipe and obliterate and got killed. However activating force shroud before the swipe prevented the knockback and I didn't get killed. My guess is that the strong swipe knockback applies somekind of buff/debuff thing that makes the next attack from dismantler against you do a lot of dmg. If you prevent the knokback by using knokback immunity, force shroud etc you will be fine. The log says that the strong swipe applies and debuff called dismantled on you. I'm guessing it's the cause.

 

Also note that I parried the oblitare in this log but still got killed.

 

You can cloak during the knockback but if you get the aggro back and the dismantler hits you it will kill you.

 

Log from when I cloaked then taunted.

 

01:30:32.276 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe adds effect Dismantled to Drebi.

01:30:32.276 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe adds effect Knockdown to Drebi.

01:30:32.277 Drebi loses Unshakable.

01:30:32.776 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe hits Drebi for 9425 kinetic damage, causing 9425 threat.

01:30:34.361 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe effect of Knockdown fades from Drebi.

01:30:35.282 Drebi leaves combat.

01:30:35.302 Drebi activates Force Cloak.

01:30:35.303 Drebi gains Stealth.

01:30:35.305 Drebi activates Stealth.

01:30:35.307 Drebi gains Force Cloak.

01:30:37.789 Drebi enters combat.

01:30:37.804 Drebi loses Force Cloak.

01:30:37.804 Drebi deactivates Stealth.

01:30:37.805 Drebi loses Stealth.

01:30:37.805 Drebi activates Mind Control.

01:30:37.807 Drebi's Mind Control adds effect Taunt to Dread Guard Dismantler.

01:30:37.807 Drebi taunts Dread Guard Dismantler, causing 45817 threat.

01:30:38.050 Drebi's Mind Control causes 2 threat gain on Dread Guard Dismantler.

01:30:39.108 Drebi loses Hollow.

01:30:39.109 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe effect of Dismantled fades from Drebi.

01:30:40.007 Drebi parries Dread Guard Dismantler's Obliterate, causing 1 threat.

01:30:40.008 Dread Guard Dismantler kills Drebi.

 

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Excellent thread, don't have that much time to evaluate all Information i gathered so far.

 

For the attack types (as i just had 1 run with my tank so far my post: might be incorrect):

Dread Fortress:

 

First Boss:

Values: m/r e/k: 0,917

f/t i/e: 0,083

 

Second Boss (no time for values so far):

 

Guardian of the Fortress

m/r e/k:

Melee Attack

Force Charge

 

f/t e/k:

Thundering Blast

 

Dread Guard Corrupter

F/T I/E:

Afflict

 

Third Boss:

m/r e/k:

Melee Attack

Smash

Pipe Smash

Overhead Smash

Battering Assault

Assault

 

f/t e/k:

Roar

 

Values:

m/r e/k: 0,59818

f/t e/k: 0,40182

 

Forth Boss:

Corruptor Zero

 

m/r e/k:

Heavy Slash

Slash Attack

Sweeping Slash

Force Leap

 

f/t e/k:

Chest Laser

Single Laser

Double Lasers

Missiles Barrage

Massive Slam

 

f/t i/e:

Bleeding (Physical)

Burning (Tech)

 

D-09-Corruption Droid

 

m/r e/k:

Sweeping Slash

Slash Attack

 

f/t e/k:

Single Laser

 

D-02-Corruption Droid

 

m/r e/k:

High Velocity Round

 

 

D-15-Corruption Droid

 

m/r e/k:

Ranged Attack

 

f/t e/k:

Missile Salvo

 

Fifth Boss:

 

Dread Palace

 

Bestia

 

Dread Monster.

m/r e/k:

Squash

Swipe

 

f/t e/k:

Pulverize

 

Larva

m/r e/k:

Swat

 

Tentacle

f/t i/e:

Spit

 

Bestia

m/r e/k:

Assault

Dread Strike

Dread Charge

 

f/t e/k:

Dread Scream

Swelling Despair

 

f/t i/e:

Combusting Seed

 

Tyrans

m/r e/k:

Shock

 

f/t e/k:

Thundering Blast

Smash

 

f/t i/e:

Affliction

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I am pretty sure Obliterate is not f/t attack. I actiaved force shroud once between the swipe and obliterate and got killed. However activating force shroud before the swipe prevented the knockback and I didn't get killed. My guess is that the strong swipe knockback applies somekind of buff/debuff thing that makes the next attack from dismantler against you do a lot of dmg. If you prevent the knokback by using knokback immunity, force shroud etc you will be fine. The log says that the strong swipe applies and debuff called dismantled on you. I'm guessing it's the cause.

 

Also note that I parried the oblitare in this log but still got killed.

 

You can cloak during the knockback but if you get the aggro back and the dismantler hits you it will kill you.

 

Log from when I cloaked then taunted.

 

01:30:32.276 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe adds effect Dismantled to Drebi.

01:30:32.276 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe adds effect Knockdown to Drebi.

01:30:32.277 Drebi loses Unshakable.

01:30:32.776 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe hits Drebi for 9425 kinetic damage, causing 9425 threat.

01:30:34.361 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe effect of Knockdown fades from Drebi.

01:30:35.282 Drebi leaves combat.

01:30:35.302 Drebi activates Force Cloak.

01:30:35.303 Drebi gains Stealth.

01:30:35.305 Drebi activates Stealth.

01:30:35.307 Drebi gains Force Cloak.

01:30:37.789 Drebi enters combat.

01:30:37.804 Drebi loses Force Cloak.

01:30:37.804 Drebi deactivates Stealth.

01:30:37.805 Drebi loses Stealth.

01:30:37.805 Drebi activates Mind Control.

01:30:37.807 Drebi's Mind Control adds effect Taunt to Dread Guard Dismantler.

01:30:37.807 Drebi taunts Dread Guard Dismantler, causing 45817 threat.

01:30:38.050 Drebi's Mind Control causes 2 threat gain on Dread Guard Dismantler.

01:30:39.108 Drebi loses Hollow.

01:30:39.109 Dread Guard Dismantler's Strong Swipe effect of Dismantled fades from Drebi.

01:30:40.007 Drebi parries Dread Guard Dismantler's Obliterate, causing 1 threat.

01:30:40.008 Dread Guard Dismantler kills Drebi.

 

Perfect, thanks :) I had to guess based on my limited data.

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I didn't upload my kill log on Tyrans or Bestia, but I do have some death logs that I uploaded for analysis during progression to see what CDs made sense where. Oddly, my logs don't include Bestia at all or any trash, and I'm not sure why.

 

Tyrans

 

  • Affliction - Internal (4882 pre-mitigation; 4 hits)
  • Smash - Kinetic/Force (8587 pre-mitigation; 9 hits)
  • Thundering Blast - Energy/Force (26230 pre-mitigation; 13 hits)
  • Shock - Energy/Weapon (oddly) (4902 pre-mitigation; 96 hits)

 

This wipe was 198 seconds in length. (I *really* wish I had uploaded my kill log) Incidentally, it's worth noting that Shock activates 4 times every time it is used, which is a nice bit of smoothing. Overall DtPS looks like this:

 

  • Affliction - 98.63 (f/t+i/e)
  • Smash - 390.32 (f/t+k/e)
  • Thundering Blast - 1722.17 (f/t+k/e)
  • Shock - 2376.73 (m/r+k/e)

 

That's a total of 4587.85 pre-mitigation DtPS, at a ratio of 0.5294 :: 0.4706.

 

Note that because these are not kill numbers but progression numbers, things are less accurate than they really should be. It's probably ballpark-accurate, but we need to get some more authoritative answers. Also note that I had to simply remember my current K/E DR, since I don't have my character sheet in front of me and I haven't kept my spreadsheets updated.

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Yes, i was MT on the boss but i sometimes had adds and boss when the adds where running through the Boss.

 

Oh, ok. Are any of those attacks from the adds? I've been splitting them up in the list. It will let us create ratios based on role as well.

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Fair enough. I'll include them in my list since I like calculating my total squishiness. Plus, it's fairly easy to cancel it back out. I figure more information is better than less :)

 

More information is always better than less. :-) Incidentally, overall pre-mitigation DtPS is a really important number to have lying around for calculations related to self-heals. The importance of this will lessen in 2.5 with the removal of the shadow/assassin self-heals, but it remains significant for guardians/juggernauts.

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Found the part of the log where I used force shroud on strong swipe. I didn't get the dismantled effect and the dismantler didn't use obliterate after the swipe. Obliterate is probably triggered by dismantled.

 

 

01:56:26.678 You gain Force Shroud.

01:56:27.355 Dread Guard Dismantler hits you with Strong Swipe for 0 (resist) damage.

01:56:27.938 You activate Thrash.

01:56:27.939 You spend 23 Force.

01:56:27.939 You gain Conspirator's Cloak.

01:56:27.940 You heal yourself with Dark Charge for 368 (368 threat).

01:56:27.940 You hit Dread Guard Dismantler with Dark Charge for 238 internal damage (476 threat).

01:56:28.174 You hit Dread Guard Dismantler with Thrash for 696 kinetic damage (1393 threat).

01:56:28.386 Dread Guard Dismantler hits you with Melee Attack for 829 energy (shield) damage.

01:56:28.547 You gain Energize.

01:56:28.548 You hit Dread Guard Dismantler with Thrash for 746 kinetic damage (1492 threat).

01:56:28.763 You restore 6 Force.

01:56:29.048 Dread Guard Dismantler hits you with Melee Attack for 0 (parry) damage.

01:56:29.414 Dread Guard Dismantler hits you with Melee Attack for 0 (parry) damage.

 

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The importance of this will lessen in 2.5 with the removal of the shadow/assassin self-heals, but it remains significant for guardians/juggernauts.

 

I'm assuming this has to do with Blade Barrier, but I'm not entirely clear on the math to figure out how to optimally use DTPS to figure out the value of Strength and Power (especially in relation to other defensive stats). I've always just treated those stats more like a bonus.

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I'm assuming this has to do with Blade Barrier, but I'm not entirely clear on the math to figure out how to optimally use DTPS to figure out the value of Strength and Power (especially in relation to other defensive stats). I've always just treated those stats more like a bonus.

 

Me too. It's interesting more from a total squish perspective.

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