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The entire series is ridden with continuity errors.

 

That's what happens when the series becomes so big there are multiple time periods.

 

The continuity errors have nothing to do with the series being big. It's the fact that someone didn't do their homework and the lazy ***/asses thought people would just ignore this error and continue playing like good little sheep. But TOR has the most continuity errors out of any piece of star wars literature out there.

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Or, y'know, perhaps his backstory has been retconned now and this change happened with the blessings from Lucas Licensing. Perhaps this is the new canon about Naga Sadow.

 

Or it's an honorary tomb... or whatever.

 

I certainly wouldn't get too worked up over it personally.

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Or, y'know, perhaps his backstory has been retconned now and this change happened with the blessings from Lucas Licensing. Perhaps this is the new canon about Naga Sadow.

 

Or it's an honorary tomb... or whatever.

 

I certainly wouldn't get too worked up over it personally.

 

There's also the possibility that they believe he's buried there but are wrong and it's some other ancient Sith's tomb. Do note that it's been a long time since his death and things are often lost in history.

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The continuity errors have nothing to do with the series being big. It's the fact that someone didn't do their homework and the lazy ***/asses thought people would just ignore this error and continue playing like good little sheep. But TOR has the most continuity errors out of any piece of star wars literature out there.

 

You know what happened when I found that error?

 

Shrugged.

 

You know why?

 

Because it doesn't matter. There is not a single piece of starwars literature where you truly get to know the guy. Frankly at the end of the day hes a cautionary tale for both sith and jedi.

 

Now on the other hand if you want to get into the argument that his tomb was moved after the actions of the sith empire and someone is spreading misinformation because the empire really didn't like him as a sith well thats a whole new ball park.

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There's also the possibility that they believe he's buried there but are wrong and it's some other ancient Sith's tomb. Do note that it's been a long time since his death and things are often lost in history.

 

A fair point, even in our history it has happened that ancient tombs get attributed to the wrong person until archaeologists found more evidence that allowed them to correct their mistake, it happened at least once with the tombs of pharaohs, for example.

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So instead of chalking it up to laziness and continuity errors, these are the rationalizations that you guys come up with? There's a reason they don't do their homework, because a lot of people don't care. God forbid they actually get the storylines straight. Screaming "retcon!" is idiotic because that assumes they planned the retcon and had the blessing of related parties.
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So instead of chalking it up to laziness and continuity errors, these are the rationalizations that you guys come up with? There's a reason they don't do their homework, because a lot of people don't care. God forbid they actually get the storylines straight. Screaming "retcon!" is idiotic because that assumes they planned the retcon and had the blessing of related parties.

 

It's something you expect in Star Wars literature. Later books retcon previous books. It's not just books either. It happens and the rules of Canon are flexible to allow this to happen. Why accept it? There's so many different writers it's bound to happen. So the rules allow us to make sense of it. Retcons happen often in SW. Even if those retcons are accidental they still occur.

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So instead of chalking it up to laziness and continuity errors, these are the rationalizations that you guys come up with? There's a reason they don't do their homework, because a lot of people don't care. God forbid they actually get the storylines straight. Screaming "retcon!" is idiotic because that assumes they planned the retcon and had the blessing of related parties.

 

 

 

the easiest way to explain away a plot hole is with fridge logic

 

the second is with a retcon

 

fridge logic is preferable as it doesn't muck any further with the overall time line, deal with it

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the easiest way to explain away a plot hole is with fridge logic

 

the second is with a retcon

 

fridge logic is preferable as it doesn't muck any further with the overall time line, deal with it

 

+1 for fridge logic.

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It really doesn't matter all that much, like you guys have said, there is not a book series titled "THE NAGA SADOW TALES". However, since you seem to care so much, you might want to think about the fact that

"During Sadow's reign the Sith constructed a tomb for him on Korriban

Source: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Naga_Sadow

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It really doesn't matter all that much, like you guys have said, there is not a book series titled "THE NAGA SADOW TALES". However, since you seem to care so much, you might want to think about the fact that

Source: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Naga_Sadow

 

 

To follow this up, the Tomb of Naga Sadow has already been well established in the Bioware continuity as existing on Korriban, this goes all the way back to the first Kotor game where you actually do a series of quests in said tomb.

 

 

Behold the FAQ for it.

 

So if anything, Bioware did do the research...they are remaining consistent with their own lore.

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To follow this up, the Tomb of Naga Sadow has already been well established in the Bioware continuity as existing on Korriban, this goes all the way back to the first Kotor game where you actually do a series of quests in said tomb.

 

 

Behold the FAQ for it.

 

So if anything, Bioware did do the research...they are remaining consistent with their own lore.

 

And thus, with all their faults (of which none come to mind) Bioware is not doing anything poor to our dear lore.

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So instead of chalking it up to laziness and continuity errors, these are the rationalizations that you guys come up with? There's a reason they don't do their homework, because a lot of people don't care. God forbid they actually get the storylines straight. Screaming "retcon!" is idiotic because that assumes they planned the retcon and had the blessing of related parties.

 

 

Do you know how few people playing this game, or any KOTOR game know any Star Wars lore other then the movies?

 

I doubt it's many.

 

But hey, keep calling people stupid sheep for not devoting as much time as you have learning about a made up universe.

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And thus, with all their faults (of which none come to mind) Bioware is not doing anything poor to our dear lore.

 

Well I have noticed one minor lack of continuity if anything.

 

Hammerhead-Class Cruiser, the main Republic warship in KotOR (The Endar Spire is of the same class) does not appear in the game aside from the crashed remains of said Endar Spire. The Hammerhead-Class is supposed to be active all the way to 1000 BBY.

 

Just sayin'.

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For those that fight against continuity errors in the Star Wars universe, I have 2 words for you: George Lucas.

 

This man can, and will, with barely a thought of consequence change the canons to whatever he deems worthy (Greedo shooting first comes to mind) so fighting over "This doesn't match this book / magazine / nerd wet dream" may either become reality or just be part of a list of mistakes that anyone involved will have made

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Well I have noticed one minor lack of continuity if anything.

 

Hammerhead-Class Cruiser, the main Republic warship in KotOR (The Endar Spire is of the same class) does not appear in the game aside from the crashed remains of said Endar Spire. The Hammerhead-Class is supposed to be active all the way to 1000 BBY.

 

Just sayin'.

 

Space Combat, the Republic Fleet Ships looked very similar to The Endar Spire. I could be wrong.

 

Edit: Looked it up on Google. Noticed the huge difference. Active doesn't necessarily mean always used. And where did you get the info on HH-Class being used all the way to 1,000 BBY? The only known ones were all Old Republic.

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Well I have noticed one minor lack of continuity if anything.

 

Hammerhead-Class Cruiser, the main Republic warship in KotOR (The Endar Spire is of the same class) does not appear in the game aside from the crashed remains of said Endar Spire. The Hammerhead-Class is supposed to be active all the way to 1000 BBY.

 

Just sayin'.

 

Look out the window on Carrick Station to see the Republic Fleet. Also do some space combat...Hammerheads are everywhere.

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Look out the window on Carrick Station to see the Republic Fleet. Also do some space combat...Hammerheads are everywhere.

 

Those are Thranta-class corvettes. [1][2]

 

MasterKai's point is that the Thranta-class corvette has completely replaced the Hammerhead-class cruiser, despite the Hammerhead's continued use well up until 1,000 BBY.

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The continuity errors have nothing to do with the series being big. It's the fact that someone didn't do their homework and the lazy ***/asses thought people would just ignore this error and continue playing like good little sheep.

 

Meanwhile, back outside Nerdville...

 

Over a million gamers worldwide celebrated the holidays in front of their PCs with ... Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. Over this past weekend, players continued to flood the servers of the fastest-growing subscription MMO in history, immersing themselves in the game for over 5.5 million hours. Star Wars: The Old Republic is also proving to be a critical smash hit...

 

Apparently, nobody cares, not even the nerds at BioWare who get paid to be nerds.

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And where did you get the info on HH-Class being used all the way to 1,000 BBY? The only known ones were all Old Republic.

 

Darth Bane: Path of Destruction features the Hammerhead-class cruiser as the backbone of the Republic fleet during the First Battle of Ruusan.

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holy crap i did not realise that.

Retconning this and that is one thing but how could they not see the knock on effect it has to a HUGE amount of the EU.

 

If sadow died on korriban not yavin then his spirit (bound to his tomb) on yavin 4 would never have taught freedon nadd, if nadd never went dark side then the entire history of onderon is changed and the freedon nadd uprising never happened, ulic and exar kun were never pushed to the dark side and the sith wars never happened and so on and so on.

 

That is one hell of a horrendous oversight, who the crap is in charge of vetting this stuff?!

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@OP: Like others said, it's a quite over the top to call Bioware lazy. Overall they do a pretty good job @ their homework, because:

1) They stay consistent with the KoTOR-series.

2) If they are lazy, Lucas Licensing is sleeping as well.

 

 

About the HH-Class thingy: There's a difference between a Corvette (Thrantra) en a Cruiser (Hammerhead). That would also explain the difference in rear-ends between the 2. BTW, is there ne info on the types of cruisers the Pubs use? All I've seen so far a Corvettes & Destroyers, no Cruisers just yet.

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