Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Hello everyone. I hope you all are well. Star Wars: The Old Republic is a fun, well balanced, great mmorpg with great stories, lovely cutscenes, great companions and overall a fun and enjoyable atmosphere created a lot by the players in game However, as you cross over to the forums, you will see there are many dismal, degrading, whining, bickering posts that do nothing sometimes but cause chaos, destruction, hate, anger, rage, trolls, drama where there is none. Constructive criticism has all but vanished here. We need to pay more attention to making ourselves better on the forums while we give feedback, suggestions or just plain discuss whether we agree or disagree with something I know many do not agree with each other at times and sometimes it becomes an off topic bickering fest of ultimate destruction. Many viewpoints are brought up within the post. Let's remember to stay on topic of the post and agree/disagree in a more civilized, decent, respectable manner for everyone's sake Recently though, I have seen a change for the better. It is MUCH better than this time last year or any other, but it's mostly still dismal and negative. Let's change that so we make this a better place Let's make Star Wars: The Old Republic's game forums the best game forum there ever was. Let's give great feedback with positive views and see things more optimist for both ourselves and others, for an overall general well being on here. The main goal is to have discussions. Not pointless argue matches. Now! Let's start making the forums a better place. Bye everyone and I hope you take this seriously. Edit: I have changed the title to be a more understanding and non petition since that is against the forum rules and frowned upon. I was just poking fun with my recent one That's all Edited August 5, 2013 by Basreia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) You lost me right here: Hello everyone. I hope you all are well. Star Wars: The Old Republic is a fun, well balanced, great mmorpg with great stories, lovely cutscenes, great companions and overall a fun and enjoyable atmosphere created a lot by the players in game Nice propaganda piece though...made me giggle. Great MMO's do not lose 2 million sub's and go F2p in less than a year. Edited August 5, 2013 by Taorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 1) petitions, of any kind, are pointless. 2) the forums are actually much more positive these days. It's quite possible to have productive discussions these days, even when they are based upon negative thread topics. A year ago... that was not the case. Sure.. we still get the drive by rage fests and frustration venting without further purpose.. but that comes with the community that plays MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amera Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yes men/fanboys do far more harm to a product/business than critics as a general rule. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceStarRunner Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Petitions are frowned upon in the forums. Please read the rules of conduct more closely. http://www.swtor.com/legalnotices/rulesofconduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well, since it is my post I thought I would add an opinion as to what I think the game is. To me, it is a great, well balanced, fun mmorpg Perhaps maybe to some of you you don't like it and are here because you like Star Wars and want to see the game turn around (if you don't like it) or are waiting for something big that really grabs your attention. I understand that. But to me, for what I see and yes Andryah you know to, a lot of threads are dismal and/or negative in the view of this game. Yes, they have gotten better as of late, but the goal for all of us should be to make it more positive overall and maintain the optimism going forward. I have yet to see a positive post on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 But to me, for what I see and yes Andryah you know to, a lot of threads are dismal and/or negative in the view of this game. Yes, they have gotten better as of late, but the goal for all of us should be to make it more positive overall and maintain the optimism going forward. The truly dismal and hyperbolic ones really don't get much traction these days., The rant-de-jours that pop every time Bioware releases a patch, or even talks about a patch.... I'm fine with because they invite open and spirited discussion. A year ago.. they would have been gank fest pile ons.. but now days... if they are off base they get debated and rebutted back to sane discussion points in most cases. The drive_by "I quit" and "I'm pissed, and here's why" threads are not common at all any more and when they do pop, they largely get ignored and relegated to page 10 fairly quickly. It's mostly healthy debate these days, even when prompted by a negative thread and the entrenched ad hominem specialists that still cling to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) The positive vibes and optimism will and must continue Overall, the forums should be more positive. Yes, it has gotten better, but even more Edited August 5, 2013 by Basreia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceStarRunner Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I am poking fun at the ones who think petitions actually do something on a game forum and using the irony to try and create some giggles and funnies. That is all I see some take it too seriously though So perhaps I need to change the title Poking fun is frowned upon in the forums. Please read the rules of conduct more closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Poking fun is frowned upon in the forums. Please read the rules of conduct more closely. Might as well delete most of the users then Positivity and optimism isn't a bad thing as well as some funnies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehmasyde Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Positivity is at best, lacking every where but if one or two people can still stay positive through all the negative then the dark side will never prevail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well call me a Jedi then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehmasyde Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well call me a Jedi then Amen, I will always be a Jedi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well, since it is my post I thought I would add an opinion as to what I think the game is. To me, it is a great, well balanced, fun mmorpg Perhaps maybe to some of you you don't like it and are here because you like Star Wars and want to see the game turn around (if you don't like it) or are waiting for something big that really grabs your attention. I understand that. But to me, for what I see and yes Andryah you know to, a lot of threads are dismal and/or negative in the view of this game. Yes, they have gotten better as of late, but the goal for all of us should be to make it more positive overall and maintain the optimism going forward. I have yet to see a positive post on this thread It is possible there is a reason for that. You decided to deride those that criticize the game, which does not bode well for your post. I have been posting positive feedback lately on the game, but will not post a positive message in this thread since this is not a positive thread...it is a propaganda piece. Next time post a real positive thread and I will participate. In case you didn't understand, a positive thread is one that expounds on the merits of the game without insulting others or forum members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 It is possible there is a reason for that. You decided to deride those that criticize the game, which does not bode well for your post. I have been posting positive feedback lately on the game, but will not post a positive message in this thread since this is not a positive thread...it is a propaganda piece. Next time post a real positive thread and I will participate. In case you didn't understand, a positive thread is one that expounds on the merits of the game without insulting others or forum members. Perhaps you should understand what positivity and optimism are and look at the posts I make. Then you can see. But nice trying to derail the good vibes. You can post in my "state of the game" thread which i nothing but rational and logical optimism while being realistic. That's where I lay it all out nicely. No, I don't tear down others that don't like the game. I understand they have their own opinions just like I have mine If you think this is a propaganda piece, you don't know what propaganda is. "bode well for my thread?" I'm not trying to get a certain amount of hits. Oh and also to the fellow Jedi. Yes, the light side shall prevail always. Even if it doesn't look like it at the time. In the end, the light always wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) .....you will see there are many dismal, degrading, whining, bickering posts that do nothing sometimes but cause chaos, destruction, hate, anger, rage, trolls, drama where there is none. Constructive criticism has all but vanished here. There is nothing positive about this statement. I understand it just fine. Including it makes this propaganda IMO. I think it is YOU that does not understand what positivity or propaganda is. Otherwise you would not have included this exaggerated inaccurate diatribe in your OP. But like you said about those other opinions...you have yours, I have mine. And that is that. You of course have the right to do what you want. But you can't call an apple an orange and expect all folks to take you for your word IMO. Edited August 5, 2013 by LordArtemis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 You lost me right here: Hello everyone. I hope you all are well. Star Wars: The Old Republic is a fun, well balanced, great mmorpg with great stories, lovely cutscenes, great companions and overall a fun and enjoyable atmosphere created a lot by the players in game Nice propaganda piece though...made me giggle. Great MMO's do not lose 2 million sub's and go F2p in less than a year. Disagreed, It's a great game. In my opinion, it's the greatest game of all time and is getting better update by update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yes Annabeth It is a great game and getting better and better each update! You need to see the game for what it is. It's own game. Not try and make it out to be something it's not. Have good expectations, those of which are positive. But not TOO high, remembering to stay within the realms of being realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Can't. Internet forums are an outlet for all the hate and negativity we store up in our daily lives. If we don't express it someplace harmless and unimportant, it will end up exploding out of us where it might matter. That's what the internet is for. That and Thanks, Avenue Q! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Disagreed, It's a great game. In my opinion, it's the greatest game of all time and is getting better update by update. Sadly, 2 million people agreed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sadly, 2 million people agreed with me. Well then. Bad part on those 2 million and they won't be around to see the game grow up more Can't have everything on the first day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Well then. Bad part on those 2 million and they won't be around to see the game grow up more Can't have everything on the first day Not the first day...1 1/2 years later. Game has a bad rep among gamers. people won't be flocking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Time to move on past the point where people moved away from the game. It's been years now. Lots of people are playing this game and it's getting better each patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Time to move on past the point where people moved away from the game. It's been years now. Lots of people are playing this game and it's getting better each patch In your opinion. For most the game is stuck in neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJurgens Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 In your opinion. For most the game is stuck in neutral. Taorus speaks for me. I still think SWTOR is in maintenance mode. BTW, I love all your responses, Tao. They crack me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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