And here i thought Disney was to blame for the politization and political correctness in the new Disney movies. It is now their property after all and they can do what they please with it. I just wonder what about all those novels written by writers based on Star Wars before the Disney take over. To have all their hard work just thrown in the trash bin. I wonder how they feel about it. I especially like those ones where an alien race tries to conquer the galaxy and they are immune to the Force, Well that is just me i guess.

 

Nah, if it was Disney it'd be consistent across all media.

 

As for all the old authors, I imagine it depends on how invested they were in the actual universe, and whether they had a chance to bring their beloved characters back into canon like Thrawn

Please no. No more Star Wars movies. Just stop.

Kathleen K is a Kennedy and that whole family tree is politically INCORRECT and messes up all they touch! They end up dead. I was happy to see her and Ryan gone. At least JJ Abrams is slightly better but I am sick of the CANON arguments. Bottom line is was it cohesive to anything else that came before or fits in some way, did they tell a good story? Yes in some ways, in other ways it ways maybe not. Like or do not, there is no other option. Edited February 7, 2020 by GhostRiderz

Oh man... i dunno if i want more after the last trilogy... Edited February 9, 2020 by Nemmar

Oh man... i dunno of i want more after the last trilogy...

 

Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. I want more Star Wars, but was not particularly satisfied with those three movies. For me, they weren't horrible, but I know if they happen to be on the tube, I stroll right past them and find something else to watch. I never, and still don't have that same feeling when it comes to the originals or even the prequels.

 

There appears to be some hope with the offshoots, so we'll see what happens.

 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Pirana

Just imagine that the, so to speak, writers of Episode IX didn't consider the fact that Rey's parents should have been delivered fully alive to Darth Sidious at any cost; he should be fully capable to "pull out" the truth from their minds about his grand-daughter's whereabouts!! Therefore Rey's parents had to commit suicide before being delivered, thus before being stunned by that Jedi Hunter...

 

 

 

That said, it's a pity that Disney isn't able to see in Star Wars nothing more than a few billion dollars; that's the very roof of their vision, not even one tenth of George Lucas' vision...

 

So much for being a biggest U.S. corporation that owns such a cultural super-weapon, a quintessential stone of artistic (and even ideological) radiation as Star Wars -and only Star Wars- rightfully is...

 

Nope; they are just after a few billion dollars, delivering third (or fifth?) rate monuments of naivety and vanity...

 

Incompetent, unworthy people or what?

The new stuff looks like garbage full of SJW Sh*t.

Just imagine that the, so to speak, writers of Episode IX didn't consider the fact that Rey's parents should have been delivered fully alive to Darth Sidious at any cost; he should be fully capable to "pull out" the truth from their minds about his grand-daughter's whereabouts!! Therefore Rey's parents had to commit suicide before being delivered, thus before being stunned by that Jedi Hunter...

 

 

 

That said, it's a pity that Disney isn't able to see in Star Wars nothing more than a few billion dollars; that's the very roof of their vision, not even one tenth of George Lucas' vision...

 

So much for being a biggest U.S. corporation that owns such a cultural super-weapon, a quintessential stone of artistic (and even ideological) radiation as Star Wars -and only Star Wars- rightfully is...

 

Nope; they are just after a few billion dollars, delivering third (or fifth?) rate monuments of naivety and vanity...

 

Incompetent, unworthy people or what?

 

Well said.. For them it's only money. They just milk Luca's legacy and work....

 

Also, these new High Republic whatever movies will be nothing more than Disney doing their own version of Star Wars lore that is going to anger even more fans. Of course I will go watch them... but I expect nothing special really.

Why altitude is relevant to some future regime and, particularly, to any Republic Regime?!?

Furthermore why altitude is important for space-travelers, dealing with (the, also, highly and horribly abused...) hyper-space jumps?!?

Star Wars isn't about the Mount Fuji, the Alps and the Himalayas...

Therefore Star Wars has nothing to do with any ... High Republic; on the contrary the Hutt Cartel could consider that name as one much proper -and politically correct, with respect to some diplomatic etiquette, that is- title for their organization; they are also spice dealers, they are interested to convince much people to make themselves... "high"; from their perspective -and the one of their hopeful customers- is great to be "high"!!

Hence Space (or Galactic etc.) Republic and "High (not Spice Republic of course!!) Republic", aka Hutt Cartel...

 

 

It's sad that this kind of funny and "amusing" arguments became a crucial part of any Star Wars discussion nowadays; so much for living in ... modern times...

 

 

I ain't a U.S. citizen and I don't care to become one; however I gladly buy -as all the world does- CPUs, GPUs and similar stuff which is designed, developed etc. by U.S. scientists and I am extremely satisfied about all that...

Hence I wonder: if the leading U.S. Hi-Tech Corporations are capable to pinpoint, train and organize the designers, developers and creators of these technological "miracles" with which a great percentage of the humanity is familiar to the extent that considers them trivial and all, is it too much to expect from other U.S. Corporations, namely the leading Entertainment (and Culture?!? Or Entertainment and Culture/Ideology should be considered fundamentally separate ... in any case?!?...) U.S. Corporations to create and deliver some artistic works that are worth the name of a masterpiece?!? Because some of them, namely some Company named Lucas Arts did it already, it did it since 1977...

 

 

P.S. The "problem" with Star Wars is that the Jedi, the Sith (and other, more or less, powerful "Force Users") aren't supposed to be as powerful -and perhaps omnipotent- as Superman or Thanos, they aren't exactly the incarnation of our delusions of grandeur ... though they are able to make contact with that delusion!! These Force Users are just charismatic and highly gifted members of a Society similar to Humanity, the so-called Star Wars Galaxy, "a Galaxy far-far away"!!

Dealing with Superman, Thanos and the Stones of Infinity is something quite different, they are supposed to be so much powerful that there is -comparatively- little space and margin for Culture, ... Philosophy of History and Ideology, namely reflections about the essence of human beings and their History; all that remains is Entertainment, Action, Awe (?!...) and Grandiose Impressions... Namely more or less billion dollars, not much more than that.

Dealing with the X-Men is something different; however the more gifted among them can be perceived to be so much powerful that the X-Men Saga naturally becomes an artistic (cultural that is...) case-study of the theme of Humanism, Racism, meaning of Justice and -ultimate- Terrorism... Of course the connection between Humanism and Terrorism is a very serious issue, a very important part of History but it's, also, a small and, more or less, confined, "limited" part. However its cultural dynamics can not be underestimated; speaking about a relevant issue, unfortunately (very...) Joker tends to become (from every artistic perspective ... at least...) much more popular (and ... interesting...) than Batman himself!...

The case of the Star Wars Galaxy and its Force Users is obviously something quite, essentially different; it's about the (charismatic of course, Jar-Jar Binks -though important and, somehow, remarkable, worth a study with respect to History- isn't able to become the leading figure of a Saga) human being into History. If so, Star Wars could not be mainly about Entertainment; Entertainment, fun (and all that) is something quite important, really important with respect to the childish self of every person but this is not (of course) everything that matters!!... And Star Wars is extremely demanding from any conceivable aspect; as an example -as just one example!- the concept and the creation of a really convincing, immersive and fascinating light-saber duel is an issue of small "cultural" (ideological) importance but it's also an issue of great artistic importance; nevertheless the achievement of such an "awe inspiring" and memorable "sequence" is an extremely hard, utterly painful and time-consuming task to achieve... and it somehow defines the status of, say, an antagonist, therefore its cultural importance isn't really minimal... That said, Star Wars is way above and beyond (than) a few memorable light-saber duels of great artistic value!...

If Disney Corporation, the owner of Lucas Arts, chooses to essentially be the more successful Entertaining Company of our era and not, never, something essentially more than that, then it should consider to find a buyer (if any) for its Lucas Arts branch... Its profits (compare with that, indispensable, carrion named Star Trek) will be comparatively minimal, its failure and negative image will become a reality and it will -unavoidably- become more and more magnified...

Star Wars is neither an indispensable carrion nor just a fairy tale, an ornery or a joke of a fiction; Star Wars is a very serious business.

Edited March 2, 2020 by cunctatorg

Well said.. For them it's only money. They just milk Luca's legacy and work....

 

Also, these new High Republic whatever movies will be nothing more than Disney doing their own version of Star Wars lore that is going to anger even more fans. Of course I will go watch them... but I expect nothing special really.

 

umm are you suggesting Lucas didn't see it as a cash cow to milk? I mean Disney hasn't even done any where near the merchendising as Lucas did.

 

 

Did you like the Mandalorian?

Umm..., are you suggesting Lucas didn't see it as a cash cow to milk? I mean Disney hasn't even done anywhere near the merchandising as Lucas did.

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Of course George Lucas was after the profits and the success also, he didn't create Star Wars in order to end his life in poverty and misery in spite of the greatest success of his work...

 

However there are a few important and clear ( = pretty obvious) differences between George Lucas' handling of that project and Disney's one...

The first handling intended to gain the respect, admiration and love of the fan-base (after the creation of this fan-base during the 1977-1985 period) and George Lucas achieved that important -and objective...- goal. On the contrary Disney's handling was capable to achieve almost the ... opposite goal...

There is another objective -and very important- difference between Disney's and George Lucas' approach; SW;Ep.I had grossed 1.027 billion dollars at 1999, SW;Ep.II had grossed only 653 million dollars (though it is my favorite movie of that great and greatest Trilogy) and SW:Ep.III had grossed 868 million dollars back in 2005. On the contrary SW:Ep.VII grossed 2.068 billion dollars at 2015, SW;Ep.VIII grossed 1.333 billion dollars at 2017 and SW:Ep.IX grossed only 1.074 billion dollars a few months ago...

 

I didn't examine the cultural and artistic value of any of these movies, this is something -more or less- not quite objective... Imho the best SW movie ever is Ep.V:TESB, then it's the aforementioned Ep.II, then Ep.I:TPM and then (the somehow rushed, due to fatigue perhaps) Ep.III:TRoS...

Edited March 22, 2020 by cunctatorg

Of course George Lucas was after the profits and the success also, he didn't create Star Wars in order to end his life in poverty and misery in spite of the greatest success of his work...

 

However there are a few important and clear ( = pretty obvious) differences between George Lucas' handling of that project and Disney's one...

The first handling intended to gain the respect, admiration and love of the fan-base (after the creation of this fan-base during the 1977-1985 period) and George Lucas achieved that important -and objective...- goal. On the contrary Disney's handling was capable to achieve almost the ... opposite goal...

 

The first thing he did yes HE did after ANH was the Holiday Special. During production of ANH he had a sequel written which would be made if it wasn't a hit. (Splinter in the Minds Eye). In the OT he went on to make 2 cartoon Series, Ewoks and Droids as well as 2 made for TV live action movies. He also kept control of the toys and all profits from them.

 

He marketed the OT way more then Disney has even attepempted with the ST. His intention was clear. Stop fooling yourself.

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He marketed the OT way more than Disney has even attempted with the ST. His intention was clear. Stop fooling yourself.

 

In ...... short; George Lucas' business regarding SW puppets, toys, cartoons and such didn't affect -at all- the quality of the Star Wars movies of his, therefore I don't really mind about those business of his...

 

That said, by "poverty and misery" I meant a certain lack of financial resources.

Neither George Lucas nor Steven Spielberg experienced such a negative situation; however Francis Ford Coppola did and this is worst than unfortunate. Those three directors have created world-class artistic achievements but "The Godfather" movies (of the seventies) is the greatest of all these. I like to think that Francis Ford Coppola should be very pleased due to the artistic achievements of his daughter but this isn't enough...

 

I have no problem at all with billionaires who have created a great work and made "big money" because of that...

My only problem is -as an example- with drug dealers, cocaine producers and oil producers who became billionaires and, thus, they are influential; I have no problem with Microsoft, Apple, Intel, AMD, Samsung, LG, Mercedes Benz, BMW, VW etc, on the contrary I desire that they have enough profits in order to invest, stay in competition and keep doing the good work...

 

 

P.S.: the scenario of SW:Ep.III;TRoS (2005) was not only profound but really striking; the truth is that all the movies of the 1999-2005 Trilogy had strong and fascinating scenarios but the last movie of that Trilogy had the greatest! However George Lucas focused too much at the most profound -and important- points of his scenario - at the expense of the overall artistic achievement; I guess he was in a hurry and he was also tired ("he had enough") but -imho- this isn't quite an excuse for the pinnacle of a Tragedy of that caliber!!

General Grievous' whole concept had something from cartoons, the representation of Space Battles like naval battles of the 17th and 18th century was not to my taste at least, the duel between Obi Wan Kenobi and Grievous and the whole concept of the campaign in that world, the final duel in Mustafar etc., the intrusion of Master Yoda and Obi Wan Kenobi at the Jedi Temple and more were inferior with respect to other points of that great and extremely profound -but unbalanced- movie... I have to add that this movie meant to be extremely dark -like the most sad ancient Greek Tragedies- and George Lucas achieved perfectly this very goal of his; Shakespeare's Hamlet -as an example- is equally dark- but Shakespeare's choice about the overall artistic achievement was different from George Lucas' one...

Unfortunately Disney decided to follow that flawed recipe to the limit and, way, beyond...

Edited March 25, 2020 by cunctatorg

In ...... short; George Lucas' business regarding SW puppets, toys, cartoons and such didn't affect -at all- the quality of the Star Wars movies of his, therefore I don't really mind about those business of his...

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Ewoks and the entire PT would like to would disagree with you.

Edited March 29, 2020 by jarjarloves

I find Ewoks funny enough, both in George Lucas' Star Wars Episode VI and in SW:TOR also; there the Ewok (female?...) companion is very-very funny, coolest and pretty relaxing!!

Surely Ewoks are walking the path of the best, old Disney's tradition of cartoons and such!...

 

What is ... PT? I can't copy with such acronyms as OT, PT etc.

P.S. like:

 

All that said about Ewoks, HK-47 has to be considered the pinnacle of the comedians-combining-fun-and -wisdom and the epitome of the ... Sages of Comedy!!

Obviously I speak about HK-47's presence in (at?) both (BioWare's) SW:KotOR and (Obsidian's) SW:KotORII;TSL!!

 

However HK-47 isn't (and can't be) relaxing; only an Ewok etc. can be so. As a counter-example C3-PO can't be relaxing because he is, a little-bit, ... untrustworthy ... and R2-D2 is present (and needed) mostly in hard times...

 

Therefore HK-47 (obviously a Drew Karpyshyn's invention) is the next (and perhaps the final!...) step in the funny part of the SW Saga, something than even George Lucas had not created; perhaps there wasn't place for something like that in the SW movies, nevertheless it's a greatest invention!! Obsidian's KotOR2 did ... really proper use of that ... titanic fun-and-wisdom generator also!!

 

 

By the way there are some creations within the SW Galaxy that I consider equally great with George Lucas' creations; firstly Obsidian Entertainment-Chris Avellone's SW:KotORII;TSL (for many, very important and pretty obvious reasons...) and then Alexander Freed's comic SW:TOR;BotE. This (short!!) comic is -by far- the most profound, wide and essential presentation of a traditional Sith society (here the SW:TOR Sith Empire) and a relevant, extremely noteworthy, pretty convincing and essentially remarkable Sith hero/anti-hero!!

Imho those works are real artistic achievements!!...

 

 

 

The bottom line is that any remarkable SW work has (comparatively) two advantages (!!...) over ... such monumental masterpieces as "Hamlet", "Richard III", "The Brothers Karamazov", "The Godfather" and "Children of the Arbat"; firstly some (...) economy of some artistic sort (due to the Force concept, that permits to represent and comment on social, political etc. structures and processes -and some relevant philosophical concepts- without the exact need of the explicit analysis of their creation, structure and functionality) and, then, the ability -due to the Force concept again!- to address much, much wider audiences than the -comparatively- very limited audiences of the aforementioned "top" masterpieces, works that however address only a hardcore part of the intelligentsia...

Edited March 30, 2020 by cunctatorg

I find Ewoks funny enough, both in George Lucas' Star Wars Episode VI and in SW:TOR also; there the Ewok (female?...) companion is very-very funny, coolest and pretty relaxing!!

Surely Ewoks are walking the path of the best, old Disney's tradition of cartoons and such!...

 

What is ... PT? I can't copy with such acronyms as OT, PT etc.

 

Pt = Prequil Trilogy.

 

Ewoks as fun as they are they were only created to sell toys hence the Saturday Morning Cartoon and 2 made for tv movies. Lucas did far more merchendising and milking of hte Star Wars then Disney could posibly dream off.

 

 

I mean... this exists https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Jar-Jar-Binks-tongue-candy-Star-Wars.jpg

So the movies are going to be a prequel trilogy of the prequel trilogy of the prequel trilogy of the sequel trilogy i thiiink?? I'm confused.....

One essential point -regarding SW movies ... or trilogies- has to do with the making of many masterpieces as "The Godfather", "Rashomon", "The Bridge on the River Kwai" etc. etc.

 

Francis Ford Coppola had the vision of such a masterpiece of movies and was the director, however he had worked on Mario Puzo's' (best selling) novel and he had written the screenplay together with the author himself...

Something similar happened with many other masterpieces of filmography.

 

It's is true that George Lucas, Andrei Tarkovski, Quentin Tarantino and many others worked the other way, they were both the (main) writers and directors of (almost all of) their movies (even Akira Kurosawa did so many times) but let's analyze this a little bit...

Let's consider the really interesting and profound grand-scale stories (and screenplays) within the SW Galaxy; is it probable that the author of any such SW story is also a capable director? Is it probable that any capable director (I don't speak about J.J. or R.J. ...) is also a creative writer?!?

 

The answer to the aforementioned rhetorical questions is pretty obvious, so does the conclusion.

In principle, the healthy and promising way to create captivating SW movies (Trilogies of movies that is...) is to create, for starters, a stock of captivating, profound and far-reaching, SW grand-scale stories.

After that you should spot a few really capable, well educated, extremely gifted directors who have interesting (and fresh ... though balanced, respectful of the Star Wars tradition also) ideas about the making of SW movies in general; the next step is to give them (under some contract of privacy or whatever...) these stories (firstly their concise descriptions) to read and the next (and very demanding, crucial...) step is to understand that some directors are not just interested but they are stimulated by some story, they have a true vision about that!!

The final step is (ideally) to repeat the (healthiest) recipe of "The Godfather" all around! Francis Ford Coppola was extremely interested for every detail of every scene of this movie of his, after all every scene had an important task to accomplish throughout the whole movie!! Regarding SW movies, the writers, the director (and the script-writers also!) have to "spread"/enlarge somehow and ... calibrate the screenplay, the scripts and the dialogues avoiding such traps as many (and ... exact, ... accurate in space-time...) hyperspace jumps, many lights and too many special effects, too many trivial (and, thus, fully predictable and boring) light-saber duels, "convenient" inconsistencies in the story-lines, many officers (there is always place for smugglers and bounty hunters within Star Wars!...) being previously smugglers, spice dealers and the like, ground battles as imitations of nowadays combats or combats of the past, an invasion army invading (from the space, via space transports!...) a world of, say, thirty billion inhabitants including ... one hundred (comparatively well equipped) million soldiers, many thousands of high-tech fighters and half a million of armored vehicles etc.

The model of any war within Star Wars should be the War in the Pacific during WW II or so, the fleets and armies of the Mandalorian Clans should rely on a reliable industrial base and a largest social one (of non-Mandalorian but, more or less, supportive character) and these base-societies must have a profound historical origin. Which is quite obvious at the era of high-tech wars and hyperspace campaigns. Similar (not the same) considerations for the Sith Empire(s) or the role of the Jedi Order and its interaction with the Republic authorities, the Republic Military, its Intelligence and so on...

Speaking about the model of the War in the Pacific, the main point is that the decisive operations (within Star Wars) have to be -obviously- the battles between space fleets, nothing else... However the correspondence between islands (during the Pacific War) and worlds (=mostly planets) within SW can't be exact for some aforementioned reasons; the obvious, convincing and serious, solution is the combination of the use of (very accurate or utterly devastating) orbital bombardment and ground operations versus critical, "isolated" targets such as centers of government, power plants, centers of communications, transportation etc.etc. Here the purpose of these, sparse, ground operations is not the destruction of the target but its seizure, its occupation; destruction has to be executed via orbital bombardment...

That whole concept, the use of the model of the War in the Pacific plus the important modifications (during that war you had to occupy the whole island and, thus, to fight for every square mile of it and against ... every single soldier of the enemy ... which would be absurd within Star Wars, namely during invasions on, vastly inhabited, worlds) is just one (essential) Paradigm of a serious, convincing (and thus ambitious and responsible) approach to Star Wars...

Another simple point is the continuous -and stubborn- appearance of Han Solo-like characters, mostly characters with a background as smugglers, bounty hunters and only that; SW:KotOR's Carth Onassi was a pretty useful and convincing character without such a background, the same is true for SW:KotOR II;TSL' Lieutenant Grenn, Captain Zheron etc. etc. A Star Wars story with too many characters from a few categories and no real characters of other categories can be neither plausible nor convincing or attractive, the simplification of every sort (and trivialization, almost ... "cartoonization", I haven't in mind Jar-Jar Binks at all, I have in mind the "military pilot" Poe Dameron or that "intelligence officer" Cassian Andor... ) of the vast majority of "normal" (i.e. non Force-users) characters is eventually a serious sign of artistic fraud (namely not a "Sollozzo business", a business of White Slavers instead) and part of a Paradigm of Star Wars exploitation, another case of contempt towards Star Wars and its (both actual and virtual) unfortunate fan-base...

 

That said, my point is that "The Godfather" should be not the epitome or the vision (because such an achievement isn't really feasible...) but the very limit of the relevant visions regarding SW movies...

 

Bottom line: A (somehow proper for Star Wars!...) and really important, very successful and very serious actor, Lino Ventura (...), had -among other very important things, cf. Wikipedia- said: "The story is everything. My good friend Jean Gabin told me 25 years ago there are three important things in movies: the story, the story and the story."

Edited April 10, 2020 by cunctatorg

I love the SW universe, lore and all that. But since they are gonna create a new storyline etc wouldnt it be much better if they skipped ahead in the future instead of going old republic, high republic, Skywalker the first generation, Palpatine the Kindergarden years? I mean come on guys. Put some effort. Personally I am tired of watching expanding the old stories until you lose track. I would prefer to see what happened to the republic, new schemes. I mean the last trilogy wasnt good but at least they tried to finish the old arc. They should try to create new stroies etc. Edited April 21, 2020 by bcpireus

As been said before. Though I'm super excited for The High Republic and the 'promise' of a young Yoda and the height of the Jedi Order. I'd really really prefer to get Revans story in a Series like The Mandalorian! That would be the most insane thing yet! Keanu Reaves would be an excellent choice too - Follow him from his time as a Newly Appointed Knight, to his crusade against the Mandalorians, his donning of the mask, his victory over Mandalore, and his fall to the Dark Side and his campaign as Darth Revan. Would be an AMAZING and epic cinematic story! (I'm dreaming here, I know. But wouldn't it be great!)

... "Only" common sense, responsibility and healthy businesses' ambition is needed in order to seek and spot the really gifted -and "mature", up to the task- writers and the proper -up to the task also- directors, the rest will come in due time!...

Meaning that almost every era and every configuration of characters may be successful. Drew Karpyshyn's choice of era and story is a firm evidence for that: his choice has been proved very much fruitful!...

 

Another evidence about that is the (great!) success of the RPG video-game Star Wars; Jedi Fallen Order by EA; according to Wikipedia, more than eight million copies by the end of January 2020 (!!) plus generally favorite reviews and critics; that's the definition of common sense, satisfactory artistic vision, responsibility and healthy business' ambition...

 

 

Keanu Reeves is not a gifted actor, on the contrary he is a prime example of an actor lacking a lot of basic skills and gifts... His ability to perform the role of a contradictory, far-sighted and very demanding role (as e.g. Revan is...) is not even questionable... After all, his career during the last fifteen years is a reliable testimony about his true caliber and the lack of trust from the part of the Studios... However someone could always follow the doctrine: "In Force we trust!..." After all, there is a natural ... resemblance between him and SW:TOR' Revan!...

Of course Keanu Reeves' financial demands would be not a great burden for the producers, nevertheless his selection would be a clear evidence for the further deterioration -and overall- cheapening of every aspect of Star Wars... Namely the overall abandonment of any ambition regarding the quality of Star Wars movies from the part of Kathleen Kennedy's ... Lucas Arts and Disney of course.

They made use of really gifted and ambitious actors like Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver (not to forget such iconic actors as Harrison Ford and Ian McDiarmid) and the result was -partially- disappointing and comparatively one billion less profitable than should be, any Keanu Reeves project would be about a Star Wars garbage... Not even a joke.

I have to repeat that during the last fifteen years Keanu Reeves keeps performing only in fourth rate action movies and, the worst, he isn't even trying to act!... I would consider to give him a secondary role (and a second chance?) in a (really ambitious) Star Wars movie under the condition that he will promise to deliver an acting performance ... though the man seems to have lost his confidence, his determination and even his flame, every impulse for creativity... By the way the same goes for another promising (long ago) actor who always adapts a very sad, utterly anxious, awfully (if not terminally) confused and dramatic persona and that's that... I don't remember now his name but the bottom line is the following: if Disney decides to deliver an ambitious Star Wars movie, he could choose among a lot of very gifted, serious, firmly established, successful actors; from the top of my head ... Vigo Mortensen would agree -perhaps- to take part in such a movie only after studying and embracing the whole story etc. The good thing is that there are quite a few such strong and serious actors like him!

 

However there will be always the hope for a good SW video-game; you can't hope to produce a successful project of that kind while you are mocking simultaneously the hopeful vic..., errh, the candidate buyers!

 

P.S.: Nicolas Cage is the aforementioned ... awfully boring (imho) actor; I don't even take the risk (anymore...) to watch his movies though I have to admit that I am a quite daring (adventurous and curious...) fan -and even observer- of cinema... The same goes for Keanu Reeves of course, perhaps nobody else...

Edited April 27, 2020 by cunctatorg

It is written -of course I don't buy it ... to the last penny- that either Bob Iger or Bob Chapek (or both) are interested to bridge the gap between Disney and "the majority of the Star Wars fan-base".

 

This gap is due to Disney's ... rush and it is also due to Disney's ... main existing policies, its very philosophy... I have much written about this elsewhere and there is no need to repeat all that.

This gap, due to Disney, isn't just between the Corporation and the "Star Wars fan-base", it is between Disney and all serious and demanding audiences which are, simultaneously, hopeful Star Wars spectators and fans...

I have written also about the importance of the existence of this gap, the importance (and probable repercussions) of the bridging of that gap...

 

 

To begin with, the Disney guys have to make up their mind about the sorts (in any case there will be a few of course...) of SW movies (and TV series) they are into.

They also have to make up their minds about the sorts of audiences they are interested to keep contact with...

It is quite obvious that these two choices are interrelated.

It is (less?) obvious also that there are inherent -great- issues, regarding those choices and the possible expansion to "serious and demanding audiences", in fact there are very serious and complex issues regarding all that.

 

I am pretty convinced however that Disney is obliged to face that heavy dilemma and to give one answer or another...

 

Once this fundamental question is (one way or another...) answered, the rest will follow sooner ... or later.

Edited May 8, 2020 by cunctatorg

A really great, essentially SW (almost perhaps) movie did suddenly appear during the year of the SARS-COV2 pandemics!!

 

Is that a miracle or what?

Disney should scrap all the Skywalker and stories around it , just start fresh .

SW fans have three types :

“Toxic” never happy, the loudest

“Balanced”

“Just happy” to see SW continue

 

Just make a whole new world of SW .

The laws

Some of the lore

Races

Etc

Just in a whore different worlds and galaxies .

 

Sure people will still be toxic and critical but then they can’t say you are messing with their childhood heroes

Edited October 14, 2020 by mefit