URMAKER Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 well said and i agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neithyn Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 An intelligent, insightful, and well written post? Today? I must be hallucinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quakereject Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Early Game Access at Barnes & Noble Two hours before release of the last Harry Potter book, I looked through the locked doors of Barnes & Noble at the crowd outside. There were three or four hundred people already. We expected 150. One of them bumped against the door, pressed by the mob behind him. A fellow employee looked at me and asked, 'Did you see Lord of the Rings?' 'Yeah,' I said. 'Remember when the orcs arrive at Helm's Deep?' 'Yeah,' I sighed. He went back to his register. We had five. Management decided to open two. The doors opened a few minutes later and the orcs massed around the registers to purchase red raffle-style tickets to be used to get their books at midnight. The lines were slow and people streamed into the store, past our one manager on duty, who stood on a chair. I brought out the first box of books. People stared. Our manager called out numbers, which no one could hear, and the crowd moved in. Miraculously, they did not grab or push, but I handed out books to any outstretched hand without regard to purchase order. Other employees did the same at two other stations, but we had to pause to get each new box. By the time we locked up, it was after 3am. The next day, I talked with an employee at another Barnes & Noble, 40 minutes away. They had six registers open - they converted the cafe into a distribution point - and had organized their lines before the doors opened, so everyone knew which of the six places to go for their books They hired a magician for entertainment and had black plastic glasses for kids. They had more customers than we did, and they were done in an hour. Lessons 1) The experience of getting a product matters as much as the product itself. Big events are a chance to gain a lot of customer goodwill. Or lose it. 2) Communication goes a long way. Waiting is easier when you know what to expect. 3) Invest in your best customers. The other store had more employees for the shift, but they finished faster and processed fewer complaints (they did have one, from a guy who wanted the cafe to be open). They even got a nice spot on the local news - good PR, lots of satisfied customers Launch and Early Game Access at Bioware It's a little late to worry about lesson 1). My heart goes out the product managers for SWTOR (my wife was a product manager for Sierra/Vivendi), but there's nothing so inherently challenging about launch that can't be a time to gain goodwill from players. Rely on lessons 2 and 3. Lesson 2: communicate, even about delays. That doesn't mean Tweeting/Posting that you just sent more invites, since that doesn't help anyone know when to take off time from work or arrange to meet a friend in-game. Announce the days for the next blocks of early game access. We'll wait, without wondering how much more we have to wait. And how about Lesson 3, treating your customers well? That one is as simple as ever: reinstate the grace period. While it's no grand tragedy to wait out a week, those waiting for physical delivery of the game, including all Collector's Edition players, naturally want to play with others they know who can. The problem is so easy to avoid. Don't require game codes until Dec 30th. Show your customers you respect not only their purchases but their time. We're not orcs - tell us exactly when we can play, and we'll be there. Moral of the story: Snape killed Dumbledore. HUEHUEHUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dende Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Very nice only can hope that the CM will read this, oh wait they all went home before they finished "selling the book". This is a really good post that shows the commitment to the customer and showing commitment like that will make the customer come back. How would you feel when during that sale the store closed half way through the sale because its the end of the shift. Would love to hear the response of CMs to the OPs post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseria Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Great post - I think this fairly illustrates our frustrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogh Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Thanks, OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwren Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Early Game Access at Barnes & Noble Two hours before release of the last Harry Potter book, I looked through the locked doors of Barnes & Noble at the crowd outside. There were three or four hundred people already. We expected 150. One of them bumped against the door, pressed by the mob behind him. A fellow employee looked at me and asked, 'Did you see Lord of the Rings?' 'Yeah,' I said. 'Remember when the orcs arrive at Helm's Deep?' 'Yeah,' I sighed. He went back to his register. We had five. Management decided to open two. The doors opened a few minutes later and the orcs massed around the registers to purchase red raffle-style tickets to be used to get their books at midnight. The lines were slow and people streamed into the store, past our one manager on duty, who stood on a chair. I brought out the first box of books. People stared. Our manager called out numbers, which no one could hear, and the crowd moved in. Miraculously, they did not grab or push, but I handed out books to any outstretched hand without regard to purchase order. Other employees did the same at two other stations, but we had to pause to get each new box. By the time we locked up, it was after 3am. The next day, I talked with an employee at another Barnes & Noble, 40 minutes away. They had six registers open - they converted the cafe into a distribution point - and had organized their lines before the doors opened, so everyone knew which of the six places to go for their books They hired a magician for entertainment and had black plastic glasses for kids. They had more customers than we did, and they were done in an hour. Lessons 1) The experience of getting a product matters as much as the product itself. Big events are a chance to gain a lot of customer goodwill. Or lose it. 2) Communication goes a long way. Waiting is easier when you know what to expect. 3) Invest in your best customers. The other store had more employees for the shift, but they finished faster and processed fewer complaints (they did have one, from a guy who wanted the cafe to be open). They even got a nice spot on the local news - good PR, lots of satisfied customers Launch and Early Game Access at Bioware It's a little late to worry about lesson 1). My heart goes out the product managers for SWTOR (my wife was a product manager for Sierra/Vivendi), but there's nothing so inherently challenging about launch that can't be a time to gain goodwill from players. Rely on lessons 2 and 3. Lesson 2: communicate, even about delays. That doesn't mean Tweeting/Posting that you just sent more invites, since that doesn't help anyone know when to take off time from work or arrange to meet a friend in-game. Announce the days for the next blocks of early game access. We'll wait, without wondering how much more we have to wait. And how about Lesson 3, treating your customers well? That one is as simple as ever: reinstate the grace period. While it's no grand tragedy to wait out a week, those waiting for physical delivery of the game, including all Collector's Edition players, naturally want to play with others they know who can. The problem is so easy to avoid. Don't require game codes until Dec 30th. Show your customers you respect not only their purchases but their time. We're not orcs - tell us exactly when we can play, and we'll be there. The thread title drew me in and I must say the content did not disappoint. Great post. Also, I wish I had known your wife back then, I could have used a few copies of space quest back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appletaz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Customer Service is the most important thing. The most important thing. Respect your customers. Communicate in a meaningful way. Don't "handle" them. We all know when we are being "handled" and NO one likes it. I watched 2 NCSoft games go down the tubes simply because of the way they treated their customers: like necessary evils. I have watched other businesses disintegrate for the same thing. Please do not go that way with this BW. Learn a lesson. Don't play like you are Santa on Christmas. We are your peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganiccus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Great post. I agree whole-heartedly. TL;DR version: This launch is being poorly handled. Edited December 14, 2011 by Ganiccus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlande Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Too bad no one in charge of this operation thinks this out logically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnik Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Good post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcruelint Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Bioware should hire the OP as a consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonSunset Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Communication and Bioware in the same sentence is a falsity. People should know by now that Bioware communicates like a mute CIA Agent. They remind me of every politician ever. Valid question arises, dodge it, next take a pre-selected question that flatters them, answer it as if it's valid, rinse and repeat. Or just pull the ole silent treatment. Good post nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APhantasm Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Launch and Early Game Access at Bioware It's a little late to worry about lesson 1). My heart goes out the product managers for SWTOR (my wife was a product manager for Sierra/Vivendi), but there's nothing so inherently challenging about launch that can't be a time to gain goodwill from players. Rely on lessons 2 and 3. Now there is a name I haven't heard in awhile. I used to be fan of Sierra back when Ken and Roberta Williams owned the company. Though I gave Vivendi some of my money after they bought Sierra, I found I didn't like their games as much as the original Sierra games I grew up with. Edited December 14, 2011 by APhantasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwren Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 How do you 5 star someone's post or how are the stars next to threads determined? Sorry for the hijack, just wanting to 5 star this if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brene Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Very well written post, though I'm sure you already have people telling you to complain more etc, etc - and will have more by the morning. Perhaps someone at BioWare will read this and realize that Harry Potter is the next MMO to make. That was your point, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split-Moon Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's too bad, even though this is very constructive and true, it'll just get swamped by complaint threads, moved back a few pages and ignored in the end anyway. Not talking down on anyone, it's just that these posts have little to no use for the most part. Aside from people agreeing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NovalGaraint- Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Best post ive seen on these forums all night OP.......... and in regards to the grace period...........yes very much, thank you........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owalpo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I just don't see why everyone is getting upset over a game that was suppose to come out next week. Another point.... It's not like you be here making this post if you got into early access today anyway. Great post brother, but by next year this will be a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolfs Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Very well said, they really dropped the ball for the first day customer service. That said its the first day of many, lets cross our fingers for many more good days than bad to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zengrok Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I just don't see why everyone is getting upset over a game that was suppose to come out next week. Another point.... It's not like you be here making this post if you got into early access today anyway. Great post brother, but by next year this will be a thing of the past. Whether you believe it or not, the game has gone live. It's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarlathe Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I wasn't there for that, but even imagining makes me shudder. Yeah, nothing like the thought of 400+ fat soccer moms running around to ruin your evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owalpo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Whether you believe it or not, the game has gone live. It's out. My point exactly. They release it a week early and yet complaints are heard as if thousands of babies were suddenly born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycrowave Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 best post iv ever seen on these forums, and just about sums up how I feel. see you at launch! oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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