DeathPriest Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes for roll back any day every day you get ****** patches like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Nutz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcGBorn Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judahstarguy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 duh yes, but regardless I've canceled this game was beta from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goare Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes. Only played a few WZ tonight, but did some forum browsing. Bioware: SERIOUSLY? I'm pretty disappointed. Math is hard, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarna Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'm an Imperial who didn't exploit Ilum today. I honestly don't give a hoot. It's not like BM gear is gonna make these players any better at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathPriest Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 BM gear will make them strong as hell tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetisBoi Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 no but like another guy said, valor 60 and orange item ftw. so they just have to wait for daily and weekly for Grand champion bag because they have already all the valor they needed to in 1 or 2 day. when us, republic, need more than 2 week to go to this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludjinni Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) While you are correct that we don't have numbers so we don't know how bad the damage really is you are failing to note one point here: It doesn't matter if they would have the same valor in two weeks, because having it now means their gear is much better now which means when they go into PvP against the people who didn't benefit they have a much greater chance of winning (which means the other players lose, which stunts their valor gain) and gives these people more gear and the problem compounds on itself. The fact is if this only effected these people, nobody would really care. BUT significantly accelerating the gear acquisition rate of a select number of players negatively impacts everyone (a much larger pool of players, I'm sure you would agree) who participates either in World PvP or Warzones with these players who did not benefit from that exact gear acceleration. I quite agree with this, of course. This would be a bad thing for the playerbase as a whole, however, only if the situation is as bad as is being claimed, which we honestly have no clue about. If the reality is that the amount of people with 'tons of valors' is, on the whole, insignificant, what is the point of rollbacks? That makes it so difficult. If indeed there is any risk of pvp gearing balance being jeopardized, then I'm all for a roll-back. However, without any indication on how big the problem actually is, I for one honestly can't say yes or no to it. Furthermore, it would be wise to look at it on a server-per-server basis. On my server we barely had enough reps to complete a daily, let alone even think of farming. When I first read the posts here I was thoroughly confused what was going on. Rollbacking on our server therefore would be, if I am correct (and I may not be) 100% unnecessary and affecting players who didn't even know this whole 'exploit' was going on in the first place. My biggest issue is that faction imbalance will remain an issue that will poison the system in the way you described: imperials are bound to simply gain more valor than reps ever will, certainly in Ilum, with or without aoe-campfests. A rollback now is a band-aid, I'd rather have a more permanent solution (possibly coupled with a roll-back). Edited January 19, 2012 by Bludjinni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexro Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I' m French and i approve this post * the Gm of Team Chobo love French guys * Edited January 19, 2012 by lexro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetisBoi Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 rollback ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathPriest Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes yes yes over and over again people vote and make yourself and your opinion known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msatchmo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I vote Yes I play Imp. I went from valor 50 to 52 in about 20minutes just doing my daily to kill 30 rep. That is ridiculous. I'm surprised how many fail ideas I've read on how to fix this. Seems the player base is just as stupid as Bioware. Take 5 seconds, let your brain start working again. I know it's been fried from grinding on this game and lack of education (perhaps your parents sucked too). Simple Fix... Cap valor gains for today at some arbitrary number, say 10,000 valor? Anyone who gained more than that it gets wiped. That way the folks who legit played or who were doing their dailies still get some valor. Anyone who legit got more than that would have had to been playing warzones for 12 hours straight and winning them all back to back. So maybe 1 guy gets pissed and this whole mess gets sorted out. P.S. I did unsub over this. Call me QQ or whatever, but I was already getting bored at lvl 50 doing nothing but huttball over and over. I had hopes for open world PVP, but this company obviously has no clue how to implement patches or manage PVP. Release patch 1 day before our actual subscriptions are supposed to start/be charged? Coincidence... nope! They care about one thing. Not ruining Star Wars? NOPE! Answer: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Edited January 19, 2012 by msatchmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetisBoi Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 why so much people are unhappy about this game.... maybe cuz of bad decision they make or only they dont know how to make a good MMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasstavad Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Rollback - Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malignment Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Roll back anyone that got over 30k valor to just 30k valor. Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kioth Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 /agree There is more issues than there where roll it back Bioware.. Change everything back the way it was. You guys messed up everything raised gear prizes killed Ilum made you pretty much pissed off everyone that pvps grats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMattPost Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 <----- Imperial and YUP ROLE THIS MOTHER BACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammyRules Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 YES! ROLL BACK for everyone's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetisBoi Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I dont even know if Bioware consider our idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talkative Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Not doing a rollback is like shooting yourself in the foot and then deciding the hospital isn't going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetisBoi Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Seems like I lost 1 month of playing this game. went 50 and almost full champion gear to see that the other side have free valor point because they are more so they can be near Grand champion wehn im not even at valor 40... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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