I may be Over-exaggerating here but low lvl Sorc healing seems So Bad. A skilled healer can not out-heal 1 DPS in pvp nor can they effectively heal themself or team mates.

 

So I'm curious why other classes such as Bounty Hunter can Out-Heal & Out DPS a sorcerer without even trying by twice as much or more..

 

What is the point in nerfing all inq healers. Yet letting all other dps/healers have Greater & faster heals.

 

 

PvP is basically pointless for a Inq Sorc healer. Decreased healing on players in combat. Decreased healing on yourself in combat. GG.

 

 

Bottom line. Sorc is nerfed to the point it isn't enjoyable nor heroic at all in pvp.

 

 

Has anyone else seen this? I can spec full heals and still not be able to effectively heal nearly as well as other classes. And I'm not a baddy nor a noob.

 

Sure in pve I can keep a group up No probelm. In pvp I cant outheal 1 dps.

 

lol Out of combat crit 4k in combat 2k.

Edited December 18, 2011 by lebenharvest

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So I'm curious why other classes such as Bounty Hunter can Out-Heal & Out DPS a sorcerer without even trying by twice as much or more..

 

 

Uh, what?

I have been doing just fine as lightning spec dunno about you.

Cool thread, bro.

Lol if you tried another class you would see. Be arrogant Idc u likely have not even tried the other heal classes.

 

I wasn't talking about lightning spec. I was talking about how healing as a sorc in pvp is worthless.

 

Try and heal someone Or yourself through 1 good dps. sorc heals are so Slow and so Low you cant do it. Sure you can heal them a little bit for a few seconds before they get burned down because your heals have no effect. yet it doesn't keep the player up.

 

Ive been a healer in just about every mmo I have every played. I enjoy healing in pvp. This game seems to be Punishing healers in pvp with nerfs and disadvantages. Why punish healers.

 

I for one am not willing to pay monthly for a game that my spec isn't even Viable in pvp.

 

Well see what happens when I hit higher lvls.

 

This is Just my 2 cents. Don't rage out.

 

regardless the 30% heal reduction is ridiculous imo and experience Although when people start to hit it might all start to balance out. Still Perhaps players wouldn't fell this if they were not forced into warzones with no level brackets.

Edited December 17, 2011 by lebenharvest

Try not randomly capitalizing letters. This may lead to increased efficiency in healing in a player-versus-player environment.

Your only a low level I can gather from you saying your going to wait til higher levels.

 

Come back at 50 and try again.

Your only a low level I can gather from you saying your going to wait til higher levels.

 

Come back at 50 and try again.

 

It's still early access, I doubt there is an abundance of 50s running around.

 

He is voicing his concern about healing viability at his current level. I'm not spec'd for healing, but I do notice that other inquisitor healers seem to be somewhat lacking. I think the other healing classes look much more appealing for pvp. But this is all still low level speculation, we'll just have to take the ****** I quoted advice, "Come back at 50 and try again."

Edited December 17, 2011 by drantik

 

So I'm curious why other classes such as Bounty Hunter can Out-Heal & Out DPS a sorcerer without even trying by twice as much or more..

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A prime example of BHs out-healing and out-dpsing a sorc without even trying:

 

http://imageshack.us/f/35/screenshot2011121710192.jpg/

I don't know what you're refering to here. Do you use static barrier? I am level 19 specced for healing and have a lot of fun in PvP. I routinely get a few MVP votes for my efforts (which is an awesome feature). So as long as you static barrier as much as possible, you can really help out your teammates, and spam infusion which you should make sure is specced to reduce cast time. I can't tell you how many people i've bubbled and it was all they needed to turn there fight...incredibly fun IMHO.

It all seems really dynamic. Seems some things improved after that tiny patch.

 

Your able to break combat faster etc.

 

I found after playing a ton of pvp that its really dynamic. Still I think what the problem is for a low lvl sorc heals is you cant really outheal a higher lvl dps with ur two dinky heals.

 

True you can heal a bit of damage Slowly. Playing with the specs Ive found some viable ways to top DPS & Heals in a warzone.

 

As for them being Out healed / Out dpsd

 

It seems more dynamic based on what the player focuses on and circumstance. From what I can tell. The thing that makes some people seem "OP" is the level/ability difference.

 

higher level healing is seeming more based on procs/spells.

Edited December 18, 2011 by lebenharvest

It's always the way in MMOs leben, healers need levels to gain abilities. Of course you're going to get pasted when you're low level you only have 2 heals, just give it time and it balances out. From 20+ healing is a blast and just as OP as every other game.

A prime example of BHs out-healing and out-dpsing a sorc without even trying:

 

http://imageshack.us/f/35/screenshot2011121710192.jpg/

 

it appears to me that your screenshot clearly shows that sorcs did the most healing. and the greatest total damage was done by a sorc.

 

so no, it's not really a prime example. aside from the fact that the end totals don't really give a good accounting of how the match went, or who did what. for all we know those BHs were sitting in mid dpsing down whatever noobs were dumb enough to sit in mid and let them, rather than doing what they're supposed to. like getting the ball to the other side, or killing the ball carrier of the enemy team

SI's have high single target healing since picking up the first hot+burst heal, its gotten better as far as what i can actually do, having all blues and blue mods i can heal for about... 800-900 with my 2.5 second cast heal, big thing here i think is that we have one aoe heal and its in end tree BUT really for pvp aoe's aren't really going to be your bread and butter.

 

Shield is really what makes us so darn powerful, why you REALLY need 20% bonus in lightning tree and if ask me probably needs moved to healing tree as its way more of a support ability... but just my own thoughts. I mean right now my friend and i have duo'd almost every 4 man heroic with khem tanking and myself healing and him and vette dpsing(maurader) HECK got to 3rd or 4th boss in hammer station just two of us!

 

Big issue i think is that healing in tor is much lower then in other games, not healing 100000 hp a shot, and a couple dps will bring you or person healing down rather quickly. Gear is probably important, keep mods up to date, but so far i'm doing fine if i find having issues in pvp just switch to maddness spec and let guild BH/ops heal but so far i'm not having any issues.

 

Edit: big thing your neglecting is that a BH actually has a limit on how much he can heal before he basically has to sit and auto attack endlessly. Heat has a limit which is much much much greater then an SI's force points. We can keep pumping out healing for quite some time, our issue is mobility we have almost none since we must sit and cast constantly!

Edited December 18, 2011 by Lokai

There is very little spike damage in pvp. You do not need spike heals. This allows for a dynamic play where you can make use of your off spec abilities and do damage and cc.

 

The other issue is before level 30. You have too few talents to see any large benefit from a talent tree. So, 10 points in corruption does not make you a specialized healer. 10 points in corruption and you can damage just as well as heal. Early level you should be healing through CC and damage. Heal when you can but don't forget to CC the scoundrel or consular. If the enemy beating on your friend is almost dead use your instant cast shock instead of a 1.5 second heal; heal through damage.

 

When you later get resurgence and later innervate your instant cast HPS will exceed your instant cast DPS.

You call taking 5k dps from 1 guy not Spike damage? ;p Edited December 18, 2011 by lebenharvest

i speced healing lastnight for some rounds with guildys. i dont die if you die your doing somthing wrong. 3-4 vs 1 maybe but solo not a chance in hell

At level 12 I have healed for over 100k

Over 200Kat level 15

OK, setting aside the OP's grammar, spelling and random capitalization ...

None of this is for the OP - it's for anyone else reading.

The complaint is that higher level DPS characters can outdamage low level healing.

They have more skills at their command due to level, there is only so much the field can be leveled. That is about it.

As a sorc, you have a ranged stun and a CC right out the gate (the CC has half the CD of break CC ability - hit with the stun first and hope they are too impatient to ride it out).

You get a ranged interrupt with a brief cooldown at level 18.

 

All the equalizing in the game cannot fix that higher level characters will have more skills, and more skill points spent.

I hope OP not only quits his sorc, SWtOR, but all MMOs in general

I may be Over-exaggerating here but low lvl Sorc healing seems So Bad. A skilled healer can not out-heal 1 DPS in pvp nor can they effectively heal themself or team mates.

 

So I'm curious why other classes such as Bounty Hunter can Out-Heal & Out DPS a sorcerer without even trying by twice as much or more..

 

What is the point in nerfing all inq healers. Yet letting all other dps/healers have Greater & faster heals.

 

 

PvP is basically pointless for a Inq Sorc healer. Decreased healing on players in combat. Decreased healing on yourself in combat. GG.

 

 

Bottom line. Sorc is nerfed to the point it isn't enjoyable nor heroic at all in pvp.

 

 

Has anyone else seen this? I can spec full heals and still not be able to effectively heal nearly as well as other classes. And I'm not a baddy nor a noob.

 

Sure in pve I can keep a group up No probelm. In pvp I cant outheal 1 dps.

 

lol Out of combat crit 4k in combat 2k.

 

I´ve only pvp´ed so far as doing the daily quest and 2/3 rounds to break up the leveling (excellent exp for the effort), so my experience is somewhat limited when compared to a hardcore pvp player.

 

That being said, i find myself playing mainly a defensive roll in the capture the flag games, setting up station in one of the turrets with another player, generally an assassin...

 

...and we are almost un-kill-able unless overwhelmed with superior numbers. Thats where sorcerers shine, keeping your dps alive while using your cc´s to catch runner´s or interrupt channeled abilities.

 

Combat scenario:

 

Facing a sage + trooper. Sage invariably opens up with their aoe knock-back (force wave) then try to stun lock you with mind snap, force stun and force lift. The trick here, as your on higher ground is to cc the sage first and open up with your instant cast cc + instant cast damage and dot combination (electrocute + lightning cast + affliction).

 

While this is going on, your assassin buddy is running rampant at close range against the trooper, whose pretty much "##$% unless the sage is helping (which he is not because you have him #$%& himself). Throw a bubble and hot on the assassin as needed and the fight is pretty much over.

 

My strategy is always to keep myself and my team mates alive long enough for them to clean up the opposition. It doesnt always work, especially when overwhelmed with various cc´s, but most of the time, the sorcerer shines through.

Is this your first time rolling a healing character? If so it can take a little bit to getting used to before you find it easy.

 

I actually love healing in PvP. I have pulled the highest healing overall in quite a few warfronts. But it really depends on if you stay with a big group or you are just running around with one person. Also, you will get a AoE healing and HoT later on which will make a huge difference. Right now if you are a lower level you can only single target heal. Plus I do a lot of bubbling of people as well to absorb damage and using my CC's.

Sorry OP- your post is invalid.

 

 

You have a melee skill on your bar. You call yourself a sorcerer????

iv played all the healing class types in my 9 month beta phase i was in. I lvl a sorc to 50 twice and i can say sorcs are a healer that walks a fine line between very strong and easy to kill. if you use all your ability's and play like your a squishy you will do a lot better. you have interrupts, knock back, slows, stuns, long duration cc (WW).

sprint, and a shield. this class has all the tools to be the most ninja like healer.

 

you just need to play your healer like a dps that don't want to get hit and (the class can do it) once you get good at stopping your attacker the fact you have heals will feel OP imo.

 

i would do a few games like this even if it means your not healing others as much as you want its worth it if you can master this style. Healing others will be so easy after you master cc/kiting well.

 

if you learn the game once you began to understand how the other classes work. you will start do do a lot better, the Sorc to me ls like a Priest/mage.

 

And they really are.

 

P.S. Innervate is really strong at 30 and at 37 you really get a lot of force management control

it appears to me that your screenshot clearly shows that sorcs did the most healing. and the greatest total damage was done by a sorc.

 

so no, it's not really a prime example. aside from the fact that the end totals don't really give a good accounting of how the match went, or who did what. for all we know those BHs were sitting in mid dpsing down whatever noobs were dumb enough to sit in mid and let them, rather than doing what they're supposed to. like getting the ball to the other side, or killing the ball carrier of the enemy team

 

I think it was sarcasm?

it appears to me that your screenshot clearly shows that sorcs did the most healing. and the greatest total damage was done by a sorc.

 

so no, it's not really a prime example. aside from the fact that the end totals don't really give a good accounting of how the match went, or who did what. for all we know those BHs were sitting in mid dpsing down whatever noobs were dumb enough to sit in mid and let them, rather than doing what they're supposed to. like getting the ball to the other side, or killing the ball carrier of the enemy team

 

LOL you got trolled by sarcasm.