Realisticly though. What's the real date? Does it start with October? I'm thinking realisticly October.

On a scale of 1-10 10 being the greatest. Where does "a quality level we are comfortable with" fall? For fun let's just shout out a number. I'll start. 6

KoTET? I Start it on december and end it on may. Chapter per 3 weeks. War on Iokath? .. Didnt start yet because i played uprisings one per 2 weeks. I laugh on ppl who spaming on fleet "there is nothing to do" because they done everything on first day before update.

~ Tsukito, Alliance Commander

Stop being so hard on them guys...it's only another 24 hours, hardly that much of a delay...besides, think of all the additional bug fixes they'll be able to include in the release now!!!

Every major update they've released in the last two so-called 'expansions' has been riddled with bugs, even when it was delayed. This will be no exception. At least they're taking care of a game-breaking bug they know about rather than just letting us get screwed by it as per usual and then sending the affected players the boilerplate response "will be fixed in a future update" which never comes...

Honestly, I don't care about the delay. I'm not looking forward to this update at all, for various reasons I can't elucidate on the forums at this time. I have no problem waiting another day or two before realizing the update is indeed as horrible as has been advertised and making the decision to unsub.

Patience isn't a problem, if you hadn't noticed Bioware likes to keep us waiting, most of us are used to it. People have, however, made some very legitimate points regarding the delay, and the communication regarding it. This is the main issue. Bioware goes silent for months, only paying lip service to forum posts to make the more naïve people here feel "noticed" and "important". The bug in this patch has been described as basically game breaking. How does this only get noticed a day before release, please if you can explain tell me how, when so much time has expired since the last content release? It is a little odd don't you think?

 

Oh and everyone please don't try the glib "if you're not a coder you can't understand this or critique it" argument. It's a weak argument and you're basically saying no one can criticise any creative piece of work ever unless they made it.

Look, I get the frustration especially since this is the second time there has been a delay with content release, the previous one having been Iokath. Yet you have to understand there are tons of things happening behind the screens they aren't focusing on one thing at a time but have to develop multiple things at the same time. And you very well know EA is being greedy with resources and doesn't shove a lot of it in SWTOR's direction. They're trying to do their best with what they have, so yeah, sometimes you may notice a gamebreaking bug just before launch.

However, I will agree with you that just straight up telling us "guys, you know we have limited resources, we're doing our best for you but this, this and that happened, let's be open and transparent with you" would have garnered more sympathy and understanding than the recent silence we have gotten. Because it doesn't take much to see the recent posts were to just have something said on the forums.

However, I will agree with you that just straight up telling us "guys, you know we have limited resources, we're doing our best for you but this, this and that happened, let's be open and transparent with you" would have garnered more sympathy and understanding than the recent silence we have gotten. Because it doesn't take much to see the recent posts were to just have something said on the forums.

I don't think they can talk about having limited resources, it would make them look bad.

Same with Keith's roadmap needing extra time(the first one). We all know why, but it's just like he can just flat out say the exact reason. Though I think be slid it in there anyway in a less obvious way.

So... how about everyone gets a commemorative piggy cop as an apology

If they make the damned thing tradeable I swear I'll give you mine. I have two of them, and no use for them.

Every major update they've released in the last two so-called 'expansions' has been riddled with bugs, even when it was delayed. This will be no exception. At least they're taking care of a game-breaking bug they know about rather than just letting us get screwed by it as per usual and then sending the affected players the boilerplate response "will be fixed in a future update" which never comes...

 

Honestly, I don't care about the delay. I'm not looking forward to this update at all, for various reasons I can't elucidate on the forums at this time. I have no problem waiting another day or two before realizing the update is indeed as horrible as has been advertised and making the decision to unsub.

Wow for someone who has been hating on this game for as long as you have I believe I've unsubbed more than you in that period and, based on your forums posts, I enjoy the game more.

Talk is cheap.

- where is sense playing new content asap when later you will again scream you played everything to fast and now you bored. No comment. I recommend ignore pathetic posts like that.

 

KoTET? I Start it on december and end it on may. Chapter per 3 weeks. War on Iokath? .. Didnt start yet because i played uprisings one per 2 weeks. I laugh on ppl who spaming on fleet "there is nothing to do" because they done everything on first day before update.

 

~ Tsukito, Alliance Commander

Did you really ask that? Especially after you yourself said you like the story?

I don't know how long you have been around, so let me explain this: when you have done every aspect of the game for hundred times, of course you would want to get all the new stuff asap. Especially if you have lots of free time to spare. 1 Chapter per 3 weeks? 1 uprising per 2 weeks? I have a very hard time believing you played the game that slowly. But even if you did, doesn't mean everybody else is doing the same or should be doing the same.

P.S. For those, who says "Cut Bioware some slack" - no, I won't. They failed this game countless times, from failure to create a good story to failure in fixing bugs and delivering content in time. They do not deserve any slack.

Look, I get the frustration especially since this is the second time there has been a delay with content release, the previous one having been Iokath. Yet you have to understand there are tons of things happening behind the screens they aren't focusing on one thing at a time but have to develop multiple things at the same time. And you very well know EA is being greedy with resources and doesn't shove a lot of it in SWTOR's direction. They're trying to do their best with what they have, so yeah, sometimes you may notice a gamebreaking bug just before launch.

 

However, I will agree with you that just straight up telling us "guys, you know we have limited resources, we're doing our best for you but this, this and that happened, let's be open and transparent with you" would have garnered more sympathy and understanding than the recent silence we have gotten. Because it doesn't take much to see the recent posts were to just have something said on the forums.

Yeah but that's kinda the point here.Some major bugs to Iokath still remain. The game is riddled with bugs that have just been left with little to no acknowledgement of them after they give up on em. I'm sure EA is not overwhelming them with resources but they have a long history and know what's needed, what's expected and what their part should be. They're not gonna waste money on this just because developers make bad decisions and execute poorly. They'll sit back, collect what cash does come in and pull the plug when it's just not worth it anymore. TOR legacy means nothing to them. Bioware needs to step up and save their product with better choices and execution of new AND existing content. Saying it's all EA's fault will not help anyone. Seems they are mainly limited by themselves. SWTOR is probably the time out for the worse people in the company or a training ground for upstarts. The critical bug is in the office.

Hey everyone!

 

*UPDATE* We will be taking the servers offline on Thursday, August 24th in order to apply Game Update 5.4. The website will also be unavailable during this time.

 

Details:

DATE: 24 August 2017

TIME: 5:00AM - 9:00AM PDT (1200 - 1600 GMT)

VERSION: 5.4

 

Patch Notes are available here.

 

Thank you for your patience as we maintain Star Wars™: The Old Republic™!

 

-eric

Why don't you guys do what you did with the Iokath delay and give it another week, rather than seeing if whatever is wrong can be fixed in another day? At least that way we will have a firm date and you will have a decent amount of time to sort the Umbara bug properly (personally I think the traitor is on strike & refusing to play the role of traitor as he/she has so far been beloved and wants to keep it that way )

Why don't you guys do what you did with the Iokath delay and give it another week, rather than seeing if whatever is wrong can be fixed in another day? At least that way we will have a firm date and you will have a decent amount of time to sort the Umbara bug properly (personally I think the traitor is on strike & refusing to play the role of traitor as he/she has so far been beloved and wants to keep it that way )

:pActors and there drama am I right. Probably refusing to leave there trailer.

You're giving wintraders from BC and JC more time to get their elo

At the end of season 7 there was a reckoning aka BANNINGS

S7 Notice

Hey folks,

 

Let’s talk about Season 7. We have just finished our full investigation of Season 7 and a few things have happened. All users who were found to be win-trading, hacking, botting, etc. have had their Season 7 ratings wiped out on all of their characters, they have been removed from the leaderboards, and appropriate ToS action has been levied against their account. With those actions being taken, we have gone ahead and sent the top 96 titles to the top performers of Season 7, so be sure to check your mailbox.

 

We wanted to explain a little bit about why this process delayed the Season 7 rewards. In past seasons we started to get a pretty good lock on how players were cheating. The "how" is important as it enables us to find those players quickly and consistently. Over time as players realize we can track how they are doing this, they change methods and we need to change with them. As we got towards the end of S7, between player reports and some suspicious things in our data, we could see that players were starting to dodge our ability to catch them. We then delayed the top 96 rewards specifically so that we could really deep dive into what was going on.

 

The “TLDR” of all of this is that through our investigation we were able to lock-on once again to how players are win-trading/cheating and how to identify them. We’ve eliminated them from the top 96 of Season 7 and we will continue to apply this knowledge into Season 8. Again I want to thank all of you for your continued reports of these players.

 

Thanks everyone.

 

-eric

Hoping for more of the same

Why don't you guys do what you did with the Iokath delay and give it another week, rather than seeing if whatever is wrong can be fixed in another day? At least that way we will have a firm date and you will have a decent amount of time to sort the Umbara bug properly (personally I think the traitor is on strike & refusing to play the role of traitor as he/she has so far been beloved and wants to keep it that way )

Pretty sure you found the real reason for the delay. The traitor whoever he or she is, has been sabotaging the release in order to keep their good name. I can't blame em.

I think the missing companions might also play a part. They're probably holding the solution hostage until the devs write their returns. The characters are having their own little uprising.

Pretty sure you found the real reason for the delay. The traitor whoever he or she is, has been sabotaging the release in order to keep their good name. I can't blame em.

 

I think the missing companions might also play a part. They're probably holding the solution hostage until the devs write their returns. The characters are having their own little uprising.

I think it's all a ruse, and the real traitor isn't who we think it is. But when they went to change it in the live patch, someone misspelled a word in the line of code and they're having trouble tracking it down.

BW.... take your time and get it as "right" as possible. I'm still working on getting my VERY WELL geared mando past KotET anyway.

OK another day's delay.

I understand why, and I agree with your decision.

My question is this: what kind of half-*^%$d Quality Assurance do you have that only flags up a "show stopper" error with less than 24 hours to go?

If the issue is as big as you say it is, it would under any normal QA testing have been picked up on day one of testing.

All The Best

:pActors and there drama am I right. Probably refusing to leave there trailer.

Indeed - though I think based on this delay a trailer might be too luxurious. BW can only afford a tent....or maybe a tarpaulin!

!!! Thank you for reminding me. I misspoke yesterday. The Nar Shaddaa Nightlife event will remain active until we deploy Game Update 5.4.

 

-eric

I honestly don't understand why this is considered an "event". It's content that you sometime turn on and then sometimes turn off. What's the point of turning it off? There's nothing else happening at the casino when it's off LOL and it serves as a nice credit sink. If anything I would say add more games of chance to the casino on Nar Shaddaa.

I think it's all a ruse, and the real traitor isn't who we think it is. But when they went to change it in the live patch, someone misspelled a word in the line of code and they're having trouble tracking it down.

 

BW.... take your time and get it as "right" as possible. I'm still working on getting my VERY WELL geared mando past KotET anyway.

I totally agree about the traitor. I have a feeling we're going to find out that the supposed traitor is not a traitor at all. I hope that's the case anyway.

I totally agree about the traitor. I have a feeling we're going to find out that the supposed traitor is not a traitor at all. I hope that's the case anyway.

That better be the case! This had better be just another way to add more depth to the character - and the characters romance for those who are romancing them. Otherwise, argh. I think a fair few people would be out otherwise.

Realisticly though. What's the real date? Does it start with October? I'm thinking realisticly October.

 

On a scale of 1-10 10 being the greatest. Where does "a quality level we are comfortable with" fall? For fun let's just shout out a number. I'll start. 6

I lol'd. Twice.

Pretty sure you found the real reason for the delay. The traitor whoever he or she is, has been sabotaging the release in order to keep their good name. I can't blame em.

 

I think the missing companions might also play a part. They're probably holding the solution hostage until the devs write their returns. The characters are having their own little uprising.

Omg. That's even better then the first quote.

I think it's all a ruse, and the real traitor isn't who we think it is. But when they went to change it in the live patch, someone misspelled a word in the line of code and they're having trouble tracking it down.

Stop it already. A ruse. I hear Valkorion's voice in my head.

I think the community is taking the delay quite chilled. Some of the usual ones with the usual replies, but overall I think the reactions are acceptable. Funny even, it a not unfriendly way.

For me, it doesn't make a big difference. I'm okay with a delay until Tuesday.

However, I find it very worrying that they are not able to hold their - in my opinion already quite long - timeframe for their updates. I don't know what they have to do and how much manpower they need, but if I think when they had announced the date for 5.4 and then they are not able to deliver a working update on the day stated a couple of months ago... well, that makes me wonder about how dimmed the lights are for BW Austin for this game. I cannot imagine how difficult EA must make the situation for BW, because that's very likely what's happening.

Let me finish with something positive: Dear devs, I wish you strength and power to overcome whatever tough situation you are experiencing at work. I still appreciate that this game is still there for my leisure time. Keep on!

For me, it doesn't make a big difference. I'm okay with a delay until Tuesday.

 

However, I find it very worrying that they are not able to hold their - in my opinion already quite long - timeframe for their updates. I don't know what they have to do and how much manpower they need, but if I think when they had announced the date for 5.4 and then they are not able to deliver a working update on the day stated a couple of months ago... well, that makes me wonder about how dimmed the lights are for BW Austin for this game. I cannot imagine how difficult EA must make the situation for BW, because that's very likely what's happening.

 

Let me finish with something positive: Dear devs, I wish you strength and power to overcome whatever tough situation you are experiencing at work. I still appreciate that this game is still there for my leisure time. Keep on!

Still, I hope we get a super awesome effect on those S8 ranked weapons. It would be worth the delay.

But yeah, you're pointing an issue that almost everybody see now, the team, or whatever you prefer to call a five man group, is just not ready for this kind of game. You would expect to have at least two or three guy for at least class balance. And another Combat Team that would work with them... Seems like these roles are still only filled with two people. One for each team.

Although, with all this money going into the CM I'm surprised they don't have enough to hire new peoples.

"it's fixed this time, for real": I remember when we heard that for literally patches on end with the corpses that weren't despawning.

"It'll be patched tomorrow, for real": Is the new version.

Next we'll find out that all of Bioware Montreal is working on this patch, and the real reason it's taking so long is because they have to get in as much SJW memes as possible while making the Traitor look like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jv1KNZbLhcg/maxresdefault.jpg

If it was Bethesda they'd have just told "Dave" the blind and deaf tester (only tester) to keep quiet and have released it anyway

 

So well done Bioware. You earn yourself one point on my Devs/Publishers to not have eliminated when I rise to power chart.

 

Fortunately I'm not around Wednesday either so it works out just fine for me. Work must intrude.

"well done" - no. Instead the two fingerless coders working at EA (this isn't bioware, bioware was replaced by EA staff years ago after EA bought the company) decided to take a few years off and make fixes only on...*checks dice* days ending in 2. Hence why this patch isn't ready and probably won't be.

People wonder why Bioware has had issues communicating in the past.

Well this thread right here is a great example of why. Criticizing them for bugs that don't currently exist for an unreleased patch and delaying a patch because they found a bug that needs to be fixed.

"bioware' has issues communicating because it's all EA now.