my warrior is a evil man he will kill but not simply for the sake of it, he hates the Jedi who from his perspective tried to wipe out his ancestors and will kill them but he find it more delightful turning them, however imperial military and certain aliens he treats with respect.

the best example is yudress on hoth, on my agent i chose him simply cause he was a fellow chiss but my human warrior chose him due to his sound tactics his understanding of our enemy where as the human was stupid and incompetent and would have gladly kill him.

 

My chiss was also evil, he would kill his targets and follow orders but he was a man who looked out for other agents.

 

my inquisitator was simply evil to the bitter end.

 

 

 

I was actually surprised how easy it is to play light side for empire characters.

 

I tend to play light side for most of my characters in any game, but I do RP, so I can have dark side characters if there is a reason.

 

I often get interested in characters and factions in a game, and make an alt based on that.

 

 

 

Betrayed, tortured, sold into slavery, her connection to the force discovered, she gladly accepted the chance to train as a Sith, full of hate she made an excellent acolyte. Thinking of this background, I can play her hating all the republic, all the empire, only finding mercy for those she can relate too, slaves, those betrayed, innocents. I have never had a problem with the results of her decisions, unless it's those times where the text doesn't match the actions.

 

The end of the Black Talon has one of those questionable light side dark side choices.

 

 

 

I know those aren't spoilers for 99% of us, but just for those 1%

 

None of my characters are 100% light side though, I can't play basing my decisions on the points, romance just doesn't figure as dark side in my books for one

Edited September 11, 2012 by Evgen

I have often questioned the choices we are given in the game in particular with playing a imperial character. See for me all of my toons both Republic and Imperial are either dark side for Imperial or light side for Republic with one exception. My dark side trooper.

 

But something very interesting happened to me last night when I was doing a quest on Hoth. See I was sent to rescue someone who was being tortured for information in if I recall correctly a factory, the person in question was responsible for bomb making and because he spoke it allowed the Empire to target the Republic main base and if it was successful it would kill everyone. Now here is the interesting bit, see after the cut scene I was presented with a choice. Either kill him for speaking or let him go. Now my trooper is incredibly evil likes killing things, yet in this case killing this person for the life of me just did not seem right to do, I mean I tried to justify it in my head, but murdering him just did not feel right this time yet previous times I would have given it a second thought. So yeah morality comes into question in a variety of ways regardless of you trying to be completely evil or completely good.

Sorry for the long post.

For my republic characters I went with all LS points.. on the other hand with my empire character SW, I chose to be ruthless and picked LS if i think it'll benefit the empire in some way like on Nar Shaddaa with the meeting between the hutts and lord rajavai's apprentice I didnt kill the hutts but rather formed an alliance

I've gone full lightside on my Jedi Knight, and mostly light on my BH, Punching that guy in the face on Alderaan was too funny to not do but seriously, he tried to get me to do the errands of a child? no chance.

 

But since he doesn't care about the empire at all, he'll undermine them at every oppertunity, whether its letting republic soldiers leave alive, making decisions to lose the empire's money (on hutta i deliberately sabotaged a deal to get more money) and at the end of the story

 

 

I played Republic first and then Empire for change. I quickly fell in love with the Empire - after all its the first chance in any star wars games to play on the side of evil.

But after leveling one 50 and a 46 of the same class - I have noticed a few times when the decisions made, or how the conversation went really made me sit back and go that's just wrong.

Has this happened to anyone else? has the choices made by the empire or the republic ever make you rethink the side you're on? if so, share your experience

 

There is some really interesting information being talked about in this thread and you guys might want to take a look at the thread:

 

"Politics and Morality in SWTOR."

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=5243136#post5243136

I can't manage a truly DS character. I just can't do it. Only my juggernaut is purely LS, though and my knight is the darkest grey. of the bunch. I like it that the choices aren't always straight forward. To be purely DS, you pretty much have to be a genocidal lunatic, often killing without reason. To be entirely LS, you sometimes have to do things that clearly go against rational best interests--this is particularly true of the knight story where they did an amazing job of have the DS seem increasingly reasonable as you progress.

I'm a pretty mild role-player, but something I've enjoyed (here and in other games) was coming up with the answer to a single question for each character I make: what is the main thing that motivates this character to act the way he/she does? My combat medic Trooper, for example, joined the military to get out of a dead-end small town/planet lifestyle and is wholly devoted to following orders, because she believes that following those orders that help the greater good is the "right thing to do". Why does she believe following orders is the "right thing to do", even when she might have found them morally questionable in her civilian life? Because she isn't overly gifted in the plotting, planning, and management departments (she excels at being a follower, rather than a leader), but the people handing down those orders have been trained for it (in many cases) their entire adult lives. Only a handful of times in the process of finishing chapters 1-3 three did she go against her orders, resulting in an interesting mix of Light and Dark points, but sitting there and quickly debating the situation with my friend - also a fairly lawful Trooper - were some of the best bursts of RP I've run into so far.

Some decisions available to a Jedi are making me go "that's just wrong"... Sparing a criminal who would kill me within a blink of an eye with no remorse at all? Sacrifing my freedom or mission for a miserable being which deserves its fate (look at the Evocii which sold themselves to the Hutts for shinies)?

 

What made me really annoyed is the mission on Nar Shadda:

 

 

 

There is one ridiculous moment on the Imperial side. It's a heroic quest where you get to destroy a cave-base on Balmorra full of highly trained Balmorran resistance troops. After a long and difficult combat you have to destroy the generators and suddenly some refugee woman approaches you saying that they're poor refuges and they're not armed and they cannot fight etc etc etc... Sorry, I just had to cut through the local special forces to get in here. It hardly looks like a refuge for the victims of war. And destroying it up was satisfying.

In my opinion, the most evil act in the game (to my knowledge at least) is actually part of a Republic Main Quest line. (on Belsavis)

 

 

 

 

I felt really nasty doing that.

I have a few chars on both Rep and Imp side now that have reached the end of their stories and I know I try to get into the characters and make morality choices based upon who they are and it can be fun, but I can understand how some of the choices give you pause. My Sith Marauder was played very, very dark, and there were a few times I hit that "dark choice" and the results were a tad upsetting. Her only "soft spot" was Vette and things she did for her.

 

So now I'm doing the story again, this time with a Jug who will be very loyal to the empire, but not cruel for being cruel's sake.

 

But conversely, my Jedi Sentinel had a hot head and made more than one dark choice too (though still managing to reach Light 4 by the end). It's all about the roleplay of the character

My first character once the game went live was a twi'lek assassin. I laughed quite often at the "dark side" responses and my guild and I would chat about how going pure-dark made you sound like a psychopath more than an evil bad ***.

Next was a mirulakan knight and going only light side I can honestly hear that dialogue and think he's just a really nice guy.

Mirulakan sniper is a mix. Best self interests and best imperial interests. Still more dark then light, but much more stable.

Based on the dialogue choices I always pictured exclusive dark side characters running around slaughtering anything that moved and some things that don't, for no reason except to do it. They are crazy, not evil.

My Gunslinger is now on Belsavis, and to be honest, I was kind of shocked when I learned that the Republic is imprisoning people who never commited crimes against the Galaxy - they were descendants of incarcerated criminals and their only crime was that they were born on Belsavis. I mean, seriously? And the Republic is supposed to be the good side?

 

I just started a Republic character after playing Empire characters since launch (45 SI, 40 SW, 12 BH), and I have to say that the way the Republic is characterized is one of the things I really love about the story. You can really understand why the Sith feel that the Republic is corrupt and degenerate. I sometimes imagine the things one of my Sith characters would say if he were interacting with the Republic NPCs in lieu of my Smuggler.

Whenever both sides cooperate I think "we need more of this". Specifically:

 

 

For Republic, on Hoth for the JK storyline where you work with the imperial solider to disable the super weapons.

For empire, when on Nar Shaddaa for the SI storyline where you work with the trooper squad to stop Darth what's his face.

 

 

It shows the moral ambiguity inherent in armed conflict.

 

A very long time ago, in a middle school far, far away a visiting scoutmaster for Boy Scouts of America told us a story about an experience he had in the Desert Storm conflict. He was part of a a convoy that was ambushed and he was forced to retreat in a different direction than his squad. Working to regroup with his men, he was caught unarmed by an opposing soldier. Basically having nothing to lose, he threw up his Scout sign. The opposing soldier also put up his Scout sign and walked away.

 

Fictionalized or not, it left an impact on me. I never considered that those involved in armed conflict were "people", in the emotional sense, and were able to make decisions based on their own morality and not some greater goal assigned to them from someone in an office 3,000 miles away.

 

When I hear about similar stories, I think that this something I'd like to see represented more often. The above two story lines gave me the opportunity to see it.

 

Playing a Sith Warrior all dark felt boring after playing my inquisitor that way. Adding some light side choices as they made sense (no killing of innocents, for instance) made way more sense to me than just the full "ALL HAIL THE EMPEROR!!!" rhetoric that a pure dark side story would give you. We need to see more of that.

 

TL;DR Yes.

Though obviously you've considered that the man's story is a lie, I'll put forth that it most likely is, given that one of the main red flags for someone lying about being in a traumatic experience like a war is that they'll talk about their experiences in detail like that (for that sort of experience that is a hell of a lot of detail.). *shrug*

 

Though yes, I'd love to see more stuff like that. Maybe give the character an option that is totally self-destructive, like 'I'll kill those silly Republic people anyway, and if the Imperials try to stop me I'll kill them for disobeying orders anyway!' and just be able to walk away and not care about whatever you just lost.

 

...I like being evil sometimes.

My first character was a Dark Side Marauder, I took him straight down the DS line with only a few light side options, mostly because I found it easier to play pure DS than to have some of the LS choices play out. There were, however, more than a few times that I chose the LS option because it felt like the right thing to do.

 

 

 

 

I've made mostly Imp characters, partially because I can't agree with the Republic's way of thinking or with the Jedi and their super strict code, and leveling has only really shown me the true depths of corruption on the Republic. Like on Ord Mantell when leveling as a trooper, one of the lower ranking soldiers tells you about a superior taking bribes for better patrol routes (Stolen from DA2 I think), or the Cathar Refugee that tells you the Republic outpost won't help the Refugee's by giving them medicine and instead steal and extort from the people. Or those two soldiers that are playing a betting game on Refugee's making their way through a minefield to get much needed resources.

 

So in short, do I question my morality? Not really, since I know that no matter what I do on Empire side, I'm at least being honest about my ability to stab you in the back. It seems right when I make a DS choice, though it is still hard to make some of them.

I'm not sure any of the characters I play really match my personal "morality". I try to get into character.

 

My sorcerer is a reformist trying to prove himself against (and co-opt) a hostile establishment. He does not like to look weak so will make DS choices when interacting with other Sith but will often go LS when operating alone, especially if the DS choice is needless and of no direct impact to the goal at hand. As a Darth, he is exceptionally harsh towards his fellow Sith but takes a more "nuanced approach" to his subordinates, and civilians.

 

My shadow is a goodie two-shoes who is overwhelmingly LS. He has become a bit disillusioned with the republic since Belsavis, making his first DS choices there to protect the republic. Since then he gets openly angry with people asking him to make tough moral choices that could have been avoided had people done their bloody jobs.

 

My Operative is... I don't know. She's become disillusioned with Imperial Intelligence for various spoiler related reasons, but remains a "Loyalist" in the sense that she holds the Sith in exceptionally high regard (she will essentially do what any Sith tells her to do without question). She is unforgiving to anyone that stands in the way of her objective, but won't randomly hurt people for no reason.

 

My Jedi Guardian is a complete jerk. Quite amusing to play. I decided I would just choose the DS option no matter what to see how the story line reacts. He is mercenary, anti-authority, greedy, and demanding of his support.

 

- Arcada

On republic and Imp players I just do what I would in those situations. Betray me, and I'll cut ya down.

 

If you deserve to live, it depends on my mood really. Kill 'em all and let the force sort em out

That is the problem I have with the LS/DS system - there's no real incentive to be neutral or use a mix of LS/DS. The good thing though is that you can have some variety and still have max LS/DS, and most gear doesn't require LS/DS.

I mostly go Light Side, but there are times where the LS path is something I simply cannot agree with.

 

 

 

Haven't played much of the Empire yet, but my Pureblood is well on the path to being honorable in battle and conserving whelps that may be assets, but in everything else, Sith Code is alive and well. Still neutral, but leaning more to Dark.

One rather funny thing about him is, I treat slaves who do as their masters asked nicely. Since Vette is always complaining or cracking out of place jokes, I verily enjoy teaching her how to be a good slave. And that's what the shock collar is for

I will say that I object to many of the main objectives of just random quests on the imp side--when the dark side option is to kill an innocent and the light side is to take them back to the empire so they can be tortured and their people exterminated...yeah. That kind of thing gets to me. I was playing an agent who is "something of a patriot", trying to make someone honorable in war--but there was no motivation for her to stay. What she *really* would have done after seeing the realities of what the empire was doing was defect, but as you cannot change factions she's pretty much been rotting on Tattooine while I run around as a Jedi.

 

Though, I will say that there are some things on the Republic side that leave me scratching my head too--it feels a little silly for a Jedi so get all holier than thou about killing prisoners--directly after slaughtering dozens of his lackeys without batting an eyelash.

What she *really* would have done after seeing the realities of what the empire was doing was defect, but as you cannot change factions she's pretty much been rotting on Tattooine while I run around as a Jedi.

 

Agent spoilers:

 

 

 

^That is, assuming that you don't already know the IA line.

Didn't look at the spoiler, but the tag has me thinking that maybe it's time to go back and finish out the IA storyline.

My main chars are empire. A warrior and a Agent. I have to say some of the dark side decisions just don't help the empire as a whole. Also I find that some of the light side choices are more evil in the long run then the dark side choices.

My main is a Commando, so I rolled a Mercenary during the stress-test beta to get a feel for the gameplay without spoiling the story. I quickly became sick of the stuff I was being forced to do; I realized that you don't have the option to be a good guy in the Empire, but only a slightly less disgustingly evil guy. Since launch, I haven't rolled a single Imp.

 

I disagree, my Sorcerer and Sniper are quite the nice guys

well, on my Sith juggernaut, I try to be dark. But, being the efficient and logical person I am, there are some choices I just couldn't do dark. Not just because they were plain wrong(which is always a factor), but because they are just less efficient. So sometimes I make light side choices just because the dark side choice would be bad for the empire. I'm more loyal to my faction than myself. And other times I just can't bring myself to kill a bunch of defenseless children ( though I have).

 

For my Jedi, though, it's all good. I like being light side on a toon that's supposed to be light, and the light side is closer to my personality. Usually the light side choices are better for the republic, so I choose those. But when the dark side choice is better for the republic, I just can't bring myself to go dark on a Jedi, unless It's a romance, which I will gladly choose dark for any day