Cavell Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I know that at this point in the game's life cycle, the body types are never going to change, but I thought I'd shout into the maelstrom anyway. Conventional wisdom is that for males, you have a choice between three regular height options and one tall option. I'd contend it's actually the reverse; you have a choice between three short options and one regular height option. Consider: Jace Malcolm and Darth Malgus both use Body Type 3 in-game, and we know from the trailers they're not particularly tall guys. If you put a BT 3 next to a Wookie in-game, it looks like at least a foot of height difference, which would put BT 3 in the 5'10" - 6'2" range. If you put a BT 1/2/4 male next to a "default" BT 2 female, they're quite close in height, whereas average height difference, using the US as a sample population, would be about 5 inches...which would be much closer to the difference between male BT 3 and female BT 2. Solution? Make male Body Types 1, 2, and 4 taller. This is only half tongue-in-cheek and not at all brought about by how ridiculously massive one feels running around as a male BT 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Son, you're thinking too much again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legoncy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Better yet they could just make it so we can just customize our height like many other MMOs, it's a wonder a game that cost 300mil to develop doesn't have that option and much lower budget MMOs do... I really don't want my stealth characters and healers to be tall though, so I vote no to a height increase for 1 and 2. Edited February 27, 2014 by Legoncy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavell Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Better yet they could just make it so we can just customize our height like many other MMOs, it's a wonder a game that cost 300mil to develop doesn't have that option and much lower budget MMOs do... I really don't want my stealth characters and healers to be tall though, so I vote no to a height increase for 1 and 2. They wouldn't be tall. As I explained, they'd be average height rather than the Elijah Wood size they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama-Eight Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you put a BT 3 next to a Wookie in-game, it looks like at least a foot of height difference, which would put BT 3 in the 5'10" - 6'2" range. If you put a BT 1/2/4 male next to a "default" BT 2 female, they're quite close in height, whereas average height difference, using the US as a sample population, would be about 5 inches...which would be much closer to the difference between male BT 3 and female BT 2. That makes me think that the female options are too tall, as 5'10 - 6'2 seems reasonable (even possibly a bit on the tall side) for male characters. Maybe you're just used to freakishly tall men IRL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Isn't male BT4 the same height as BT3? It always has annoyed me that female BT1/BT2/BT4 are all the same height as male BT2, which the majority of the population is. Male BT1 is a tiny bit shorter. Since male BT2 feels like it's 6' or so, apparently all females in Star Wars are a minimum of 5'10? It's not a game breaker but I agree, the heights are annoying. That's why people have asked for a male body in between BT2 and BT3 since beta. I really don't understand why they used this engine if fluff features like height sliders are just beyond it's limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Better yet they could just make it so we can just customize our height like many other MMOs, it's a wonder a game that cost 300mil to develop doesn't have that option and much lower budget MMOs do... I really don't want my stealth characters and healers to be tall though, so I vote no to a height increase for 1 and 2. It's because of the cinematics. This is a conscious design decision not some budget or system limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 All my male characters use bt3. I'm 6'4" irl so I always use the tallest option anyway. It would be nice to have a more athletic female option tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavell Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Isn't male BT4 the same height as BT3? No, noticeably shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaliaya Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Wouldn't that make them a bit too tall compared to female toons? Already body 1 female and body 3 male kissing looks like quite hilarious, especially if boy is wearing heavy armoring and girl robes:o and if I compare my femSages and my friend's male Vanguards lenght and shoulders my poor Sage looks like way too small. And now you suggest making males even taller:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaliaya Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Isn't male BT4 the same height as BT3? It always has annoyed me that female BT1/BT2/BT4 are all the same height as male BT2, which the majority of the population is. Male BT1 is a tiny bit shorter. Since male BT2 feels like it's 6' or so, apparently all females in Star Wars are a minimum of 5'10? It's not a game breaker but I agree, the heights are annoying. That's why people have asked for a male body in between BT2 and BT3 since beta. I really don't understand why they used this engine if fluff features like height sliders are just beyond it's limits. Strange, when I compare my body 1 Sage to for example Iresso (body 2 male comp) Iresso is taller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfius Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 They just had to put sliders for most options as STO for example... but I don't think it would see a change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 BT2 is the perfect Body height for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavell Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 bt2 is the perfect body height for me. 5'5"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuglebunny Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I think all the characters are a well proportioned height to each other and the environment. Other than some mounts are too small. The animal ones. This isnt our galaxy maybe people are shorter in the SW universe due to gravitational blah blah its a game. Edited February 28, 2014 by Smuglebunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themanthatisi Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I know I am too short, at 5' 7".... My wife is taller and teases me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't that make them a bit too tall compared to female toons? Already body 1 female and body 3 male kissing looks like quite hilarious, especially if boy is wearing heavy armoring and girl robes:o and if I compare my femSages and my friend's male Vanguards lenght and shoulders my poor Sage looks like way too small. And now you suggest making males even taller:eek: I'm waiting for the day my body type 1 Gunslinger kisses body type 3 ? 4 ? (don't remember anymore) Amazon Akaavi Spar ... Edited February 28, 2014 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavell Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think all the characters are a well proportioned height to each other and the environment. Other than some mounts are too small. The animal ones. This isnt our galaxy maybe people are shorter in the SW universe due to gravitational blah blah its a game. I'm not sure I'd agree that they're proportioned well to each other. Most of them are, but Male Body Type 3 is basically another species. Which is a shame, as it's the only one that looks right armored up. (Note: I know the proportions are off, but they're off for all the male models. When wearing endgame gear, BT3 looks best.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Better yet they could just make it so we can just customize our height like many other MMOs, it's a wonder a game that cost 300mil to develop doesn't have that option and much lower budget MMOs do... I really don't want my stealth characters and healers to be tall though, so I vote no to a height increase for 1 and 2. The game did not cost that much to make, stop spreading misinformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantazm Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think all the characters are a well proportioned height to each other and the environment. Other than some mounts are too small. The animal ones. This isnt our galaxy maybe people are shorter in the SW universe due to gravitational blah blah its a game. I've always thought the environment is far too big for the most part. Buildings, staircases, doorways etc look like they were designed and made by a much larger species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The game did not cost that much to make, stop spreading misinformation. Yea I've heard closer to $400m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daewan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Dear BioWare: Please ignore these people and leave my tiny Marauder alone. Love, Male BT1 Supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwena Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I dunno, if you compare them side by side in character creation, the BT2 male is significantly taller than BT1/2/4 females. Also, I play a BT1 male (echoing the above poster's "leave him alone!" ) and he's way smaller. I figure it is something like this: 5'3-4" -- BT2 female 5'5-6" -- BT1 female (yes, they are a smidge taller), BT1 male 5'8-10" -- BT2 male, BT3 female over 6' -- BT3 male Not sure about the BT4's. I like these as they are, but it would be nice if players could use the bodies that Voss NPC's use, which are taller but slim rather than bulky. IMHO BT3 males look so disproportionately large at times because of their bulk moreso than their height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Look at some of the champion soldier mobs on oricon in your base, they are a good 2 or 3 feet above a body type 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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