Grues Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Only for PvE, i am not a big fan of PvP in this game. I like killing bosses and supporting the team, also looking into maybe a Sniper imperial agent as well. I am playing as a Level 20 PT atm and seem to be losing to alot of Mercs near my level. I have pretty good equipment and am Specing into the Pyro tree. Any tips or suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaad Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 "2 is better than one" Roll merc, we are so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Hitsugaya Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I am kind of interested in this to as someone who is about to chose their advanced spec. And was curious on what was good for pve. And what were the reasons for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordnortamos Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Merc, a load of dps that isn't useful in PVP anymore. They're one of the top if not THE top class in PVE damage at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grues Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Really? i would of expected alot more powertech talk. I played alongside a MERC on some heroics was a bit jealous of their dps.. so might re-roll since i just bought subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCotharn Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Since you are asking about these 2+ the IA im assuming you want to do dps. If that is the case go PT, they do better DPS (when specd pyro) however they are more melee with a few ranged abilities where as a merc is straight range. Also just learn the class a little bit more, a PT that has even a little experience should never lose to a merc. Lastly I really would suggest rolling a sniper if you are into dps, there is not a better single target dps class than a sniper, you can take people down in about 5-6 secs no problem. I will add that they are all fun and viable for endgame PVE so roll what you enjoy most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strainge Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I rolled a Merc as my 1st character. Really fun. But their survivability is horrible. You would think not because of their range and heavy armor, but my marauder is so much more versatile in so many situations. There's merit to every advance class. As long as you're having fun with it then it's the right pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScytheEleven Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Merc, a load of dps that isn't useful in PVP anymore. They're one of the top if not THE top class in PVE damage at the moment. Nope, wrong. Sorry buddy, but nothing is beating out a BiS Sentinel/Marauder right now. Here's the thing about PT vs Merc DPS: PT Pyro is higher, but Merc brings a little bit more utility (CC, a cleanse) to a raid group. Mercs will disagree with me completely, but you frequently see parses from PT Pyro's hitting over 2k DPS and laughing while they do it. Mercs can hit like a truck, but not as much as their PT counterparts can at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveslug Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Merc, a load of dps that isn't useful in PVP anymore. They're one of the top if not THE top class in PVE damage at the moment. If by merc you mean sniper, marauder or powertech then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUMA Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I have both of them. I prefer my Mercenary because I find it more enjoyable (iconic also) than my Powertech. To each his own on this one. As far as damage goes the top DPS per class is: Marauder Powertech Sniper Merc / Sorc Assassin / juggernaut Operative They are all within a couple hundred DPS from each other. At least for my guild, which are all in full 63's and know their class / priority. I prefer my merc because of the utility. We've got CC, off healing, less damage received (usually), and of course the armor debuff to the rest of the raid. Slower ramp up time for DPS than PT. Powertechs have high burst DPS, instant casts with great mobility, and can taunt off for certain mechanics like Firebrand. Ultimately it comes down to play style like most will tell you. Melee or Ranged? Edited February 17, 2013 by PUMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkscis Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Only for PvE, i am not a big fan of PvP in this game. .... I am playing as a Level 20 PT atm and seem to be losing to alot of Mercs near my level. What do you mean "losing to alot of Mercs" when you say you aren't interested in PvP? If it is just that they seem to be killing quicker well that is going to change drastically throughout the levels as each class unlocks key talents and gets specific skills. You can't judge kill speed towards 50 based on what you experience at 20. I am currently leveling a Merc, just hit 40 and it has been an absolute blast so far. I have solo'd every single heroic 2+ thus far with ease and breeze through the normal quests without needing to stop to heal (or even a remote chance of death). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheCannon Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I regularly would out-DPS equally geared Marauders and Snipers in raids on my Merc. I *certainly* out-DPSed Sorcs. I can't post recent parses because I haven't run with those guys regularly, but they're one of the top PVE guilds on the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbare Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Only for PvE, i am not a big fan of PvP in this game. I like killing bosses and supporting the team, also looking into maybe a Sniper imperial agent as well. I am playing as a Level 20 PT atm and seem to be losing to alot of Mercs near my level. I have pretty good equipment and am Specing into the Pyro tree. Any tips or suggestions? Powertechs don't really get good until you get prototype particle accelerator in your tree. Powertechs will out dps mercs, assuming the same level of skill and gear. Both have pretty easy rotations. Mercs have more utility and powertechs do more damage. Its really up to you whom you want to play. Both are more than viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicksteezin Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Nope, wrong. Sorry buddy, but nothing is beating out a BiS Sentinel/Marauder right now. Here's the thing about PT vs Merc DPS: PT Pyro is higher, but Merc brings a little bit more utility (CC, a cleanse) to a raid group. Mercs will disagree with me completely, but you frequently see parses from PT Pyro's hitting over 2k DPS and laughing while they do it. Mercs can hit like a truck, but not as much as their PT counterparts can at the moment. Nope, sorry buddy... I have both a 63 geared merc and 63 gear powertech, and even though i consider my PT to be my main, i will not deny that my arsenal merc can dish out more DPS PvE. I would absolutely consider them among the best in PvE damage and an absolute neccessity in high tier raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omophorus Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Nope, sorry buddy... I have both a 63 geared merc and 63 gear powertech, and even though i consider my PT to be my main, i will not deny that my arsenal merc can dish out more DPS PvE. I would absolutely consider them among the best in PvE damage and an absolute neccessity in high tier raids. And I'd strongly disagree. Marauder and PT are stronger than Mercenary. The utility might be handy depending on your raid group composition, but I'd hardly call it essential or anywhere approaching necessary. Mercenary has terrible mobility. Bosses in TFB all require significant movement. Likewise, to a lesser extent, in EC. PT is not penalized at all for having to move as a part of the fight. Mercenary is. Frankly, I see little need for any RDPS. Ideally, I'd take 2 PTs and 2 Marauders with at least 1 Assassin tank. 2 healers + 1 Assassin have enough utility that you don't need it from your DPS, and you can trade utility for raw output, which is something Merc just isn't top-tier at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScytheEleven Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) And I'd strongly disagree. Marauder and PT are stronger than Mercenary. The utility might be handy depending on your raid group composition, but I'd hardly call it essential or anywhere approaching necessary. Mercenary has terrible mobility. Bosses in TFB all require significant movement. Likewise, to a lesser extent, in EC. PT is not penalized at all for having to move as a part of the fight. Mercenary is. Frankly, I see little need for any RDPS. Ideally, I'd take 2 PTs and 2 Marauders with at least 1 Assassin tank. 2 healers + 1 Assassin have enough utility that you don't need it from your DPS, and you can trade utility for raw output, which is something Merc just isn't top-tier at. This. Don't know if I agree on the last statement, but yeah, this. Instant cast and mobility >>>> cast bars. Edited February 19, 2013 by ScytheEleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raekor Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 If constantly getting interrupted is going to annoy you, stay with the PT. My Merc is my main, but I find the PT more fun due to not getting annoyed at the constant interrupts. Going for 10 stack DT at the moment, you lose about 300 DPS from the knock ups and moving on a Merc. Still more than enough to carry my own weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheCannon Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I've never had a problem keeping up my end as a Merc, even with casts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raekor Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I've never had a problem keeping up my end as a Merc, even with casts. People aren't saying you will have a problem. A Merc's DPS is more than sufficient for everything the game has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omophorus Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 People aren't saying you will have a problem. A Merc's DPS is more than sufficient for everything the game has to offer. Bingo. The question wasn't "what is workable?". The question was "which is best?". The answer is Powertech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheCannon Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I see that. I guess I just took the "Mercs have terrible mobility and are penalized by it" to imply that in fights with mobility issues Mercs lose significant DPS, and that hasn't been my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoomazir Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Do you want long casting attacks with average dmg than can be interrupted by random mobs/players or do you want to roflmao anything crossing you path? -if first choice, roll a merc. -if second choice: roll master race powertech. Edited February 20, 2013 by yoomazir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheCannon Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Do you want long casting attacks with average dmg than can be interrupted by random mobs/players or do you want to roflmao anything crossing you path? -if first choice, roll a merc. -if second choice: roll master race powertech. For PVP, that's correct. If bosses are interrupting you in PVE the tank's not doing his job right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kezzin Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 For PVP, that's correct. If bosses are interrupting you in PVE the tank's not doing his job right. Yes, when in doubt. Blame the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Do you want long casting attacks with average dmg than can be interrupted by random mobs/players or do you want to roflmao anything crossing you path? -if first choice, roll a merc. -if second choice: roll master race powertech. I don't have this problem you speak of with my Arsenal Spec Merc. I have no real idea where the DPS lies in-terms of others, but interrupt? Have not had this issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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