SickTag Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hate rep grinding. Especially when it's based on dailies and weeklies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibobpipop Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Then...don't do it? Problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) isn't that chain on Coruscant - gree related? you know the one that gives you "Black bisector" title? also, that scavenger hunt event with sand people gear, was also gree related if I remember correctly. from what I see of playing the game is that they have been setting up gree return from the very beginning. also. if reputation gain is the end, its THE content, i don't see what's wrong with it. it only starts to suck when it gates other content, that you cannot get to without grinding those specific reps first... on each and every character Edited January 18, 2013 by Jeweledleah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmaticus Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Totally awesome! Even though as a chronic altaholic I never got to level 50 (working on that though... with 4 toons... on 3 different servers ) I still think it's awesome. Especially the reputation system. Will it also be possible to buy some cool looking moddable gear depending on faction standing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hynn-Thal Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I have never been one for Rep Grinding, but if this is going to be tied to legacy, it might prove worthwhile. I do, however, wish BW would put a little more effort into fixing the multitude of bugs that have plagued the game from release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumby Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Any word on the release date of this update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafaman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Damn... I must say... I'm excited about this. Looking forward to all of it. Me and the guildies always have a great time during events. PvE in PvP land... cool. My guildies and I will form in mass and get in there and see what is what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 But honestly, for your own sake as well, it is best not to get too worked up over the possibility of it sucking, when you don't know for sure yet if it does. No point getting worked up, but discussing the possibilities of interpretation, and discussing what we do or do not want (forced pvp for pve players) is important for them to understand what we don't want to see repeated again (HK-51). They've screwed up in the past, and have not corrected the screw up. They haven't even closed up the pvp flagging exploits for pve players, and it's been well over a year now. It's clear they do not understand (or do not care) that pve players do not want forced pvp, so telling them before they screw up yet again is a sound move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danpen Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hate rep grinding. Especially when it's based on dailies and weeklies. If you don't want to do it you do not have to do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbusAngelus Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I read halfway through this thread and all I see is a bunch of people whining about how "PvE" players may get excluded from PvE content if there is open world PvP in a particular area. I don't understand how you are being excluded from anything? It's YOUR choice to exclusively PvE and no one is forcing you to participate in content that is quite possibly aligned toward players who actually enjoy both aspects, (or at least partake) in both aspects of the game. Maybe they want an area to reward people who have put time into both PvP and PvE? Is that just too simple of a concept to understand? If this area ends up like that, go take the time to get some PvP gear and hold your own in PvP, it doesn't take that long. I am not some PvP nut either, I play both aspects of the game and would greatly appreciate an area that encompasses both PvE and PvP. If you are heavily tilted toward either side and wouldn't like something like this, then it's really easy... Don't go there! The only thing excluding you from said content would be yourself. If you want to participate.. go get the gear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Maybe they want an area to reward people who have put time into both PvP and PvE? Is that just too simple of a concept to understand? If people wanted PvE and PvP content to be blended together they'd ask for it. PvE server = People who don't want to be forced to PvP Is that just too simple a concept to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GragorArtis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I understand about how PvErs don't like being forced to PvP in order to do these events, believe I know, I myself am a PvEr. But guys I mean this whole game is full of people who will gank you on any server. If you guys are still like "oh well this is a PvE server they shouldn't do this," then you should really realize that there are PvPers on all servers. Almost every planet is PvPable, so if you guys have a problem with this, then you have a problem with almost every planet. If you guys dont want to get ganked, play a stealth character if you have one, or get a group together to help you get to locations to do quests. Bioware could have made it more efficient I will agree on that, but they've had so many cuts that they're barely keeping this game up and running. If you get ganked, don't blame Bioware, they have enough trouble dealing with keeping this game alive. And if you guys still have a problem then let me tell you, is the Black Hole PvPable, yes it is. Is Ilum PvPable? Yes it is. Don't blame Bioware for being gankable, blame the people who gank you. There will always be those sorts of people in video games, Bioware has no control over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I understand about how PvErs don't like being forced to PvP in order to do these events, believe I know, I myself am a PvEr. But guys I mean this whole game is full of people who will gank you on any server. If you guys are still like "oh well this is a PvE server they shouldn't do this," then you should really realize that there are PvPers on all servers. Almost every planet is PvPable, so if you guys have a problem with this, then you have a problem with almost every planet. If you guys dont want to get ganked, play a stealth character if you have one, or get a group together to help you get to locations to do quests. On a pve server the pve players should not have to change their behaviour to accommodate the pvp players. The pvp flagging exploits need to be fixed, and there should be no forced pvp AT ALL on a pve server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Bioware has no control over it. Um, they could not put events in a Open World PvP area? You seem to misunderstand the problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GragorArtis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Um, they could not put events in a Open World PvP area? You seem to misunderstand the problem here. There aren't a lot of non-Open Wold PvP areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GragorArtis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 On a pve server the pve players should not have to change their behaviour to accommodate the pvp players. The pvp flagging exploits need to be fixed, and there should be no forced pvp AT ALL on a pve server. This isn't forced, you don't have to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mevan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 There aren't a lot of non-Open Wold PvP areas Um, have you played the game? Ilum and the Outlaw's Den are the only two places I can think of that are Open World PvP areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 This isn't forced, you don't have to do it. It's a new system, not just passing content. If the system is important to pve players then setting it in pvp area makes it exclusionary to the majority of players who rolled on a pve server so they don't get open world pvp forced on them. Speculative feedback at this point is necessary, as the HK-51 forced pvp shows Bioware does not yet understand forced pvp is not wanted - they could easily be doing it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GragorArtis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It's a new system, not just passing content. If the system is important to pve players then setting it in pvp area makes it exclusionary to the majority of players who rolled on a pve server so they don't get open world pvp forced on them. Speculative feedback at this point is necessary, as the HK-51 forced pvp shows Bioware does not yet understand forced pvp is not wanted - they could easily be doing it again. Was talking about the event not the reputation system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Was talking about the event not the reputation system We're talking about it all however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GragorArtis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Um, have you played the game? Ilum and the Outlaw's Den are the only two places I can think of that are Open World PvP areas. Anywhere you can PvP is an Open World PvP areas. At least on my server it is. I constantly have to fight the opposite faction to do my dailies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GragorArtis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We're talking about it all however. I was mainly talking to the people complaining about the event, the reputation system i cant say anything about because i dont know what its like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan_Vee Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Honestly I'm disappointed we're getting a heads up on this event. Where's the pleasant unexpected surprise we got from both the Rakghoul Plague and the Grand Acquisition Race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramgniw Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 This looks a lot like the various factions in WoW rep grind I undertook years ago in WOTLK . Can be a minor diversion or a lot more for the right mindset player. Just one observation., I hope that a vendor accompanies each faction and thats theres actually some stuff worth grinding for other than titles. I won't be bothering with this at all personally if its just for titles, I would imagine quite a few other players will feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries_cz Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 To People freaking out about Reputation: There are 4 factions, Gree, Voss, Belsavis and Mobile Fleet, which no one know where it will take place. So, even if you dislike PvP, you will still probably have 2-3 factions to get reputation with. Also, the event will be on for whole year. So, even if you suck at PvP, but want to participate and get rewared from PvP zone, you have plenty of time to train yourself, getting good (or at least mediocre) in PvP is a matter of month at most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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