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01.01.2014 , 10:51 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Elly_Dawn View Post
i love this bizarre concept that any new player to the game will be at a disadvantage to all day one players or "premades" ...
Of course they will be. In ground PVP, do you think that level 10(30) isn't at disadvantage to level 29(54), and that players new to the game aren't at disadvantage to veterans?

Quote: Originally Posted by Elly_Dawn View Post
and thus will not want to play the game ever again... if it worked like that then nobody would ever play except for the Day one / "premade" people...
You have a point there. Not everyone will give up, but some will (few? many? "some"? I don't know). Is that OK, or is that an issue? About that, see my previous post in this thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by Elly_Dawn View Post
where does this concept come from?.. it defies logical sense, it totally assumes everybody will try it once, get shot down, and never try it again afterwards, never wanting to improve and work their way to the top like those before them...
I agree that if it assumes "everybody", then it is wrong. If it assumes "some", then in my humble opinion, it is right.

Quote: Originally Posted by Elly_Dawn View Post
maybe it's just those that are whining just because they don't want to put in the effort that others have to upgrade their ships, improve their skills, and make parties of wingmen they can trust to watch their backs...
Again, about the last part (parties of wingmen) see my previous post here. About the other part, let me first quote your second post:
Quote: Originally Posted by Elly_Dawn View Post
...while those that want a free ride to the top will still be whining that's it's unfair that they have to start at the bottom like everybody else...
They aren't whining that it's unfair to have to start at the bottom. They are "whining"(I use this word since it seems to be popular in counterarguments) because when the first day people started at the bottom, they did so - against other people starting at the bottom. When you start in these days at the bottom, you most likely do it against people at the top. And that is what seems unfair.
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafkin View Post
Last nights group finder was a mess. The short version is that two of the people were really bad but the tank was pretty good. After we called it I asked the tank if he wanted to queue up with me. He said "I'm eleven and I have to go to bed".
The one guy who knew what he was doing was eleven years old.