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11.11.2013 , 10:34 AM | #1
Lately, I have been noticing something quite peculiar with Denova and I wanted to share my feelings on the subject and ask for opinions. After attempting Denova HM with a lvl55 PuG group (how hard could it be, we were all wearing a mix of 72/78 gear), I was somewhat surprised that we couldn't brute force our way through the operation with superior gear and couldn't get past Stormcaller and Firebrand because people didn't understand what to do. This had me thinking and after a bit of research and advertising on the fleet, I came to realize that Denova is the most neglected operation in the game. Really, nobody, ever does Denova anymore because there is no reason to do so.

It appears to me that Denova fills a very strange niche on the Ops palette right now. It is a level 50 operation but it is significantly harder than either Eternity Vault or Karagga's Palace. It is PuG friendly enough to be doable for the average group on story mode but its rewards for the quest are not significant enough for most people to warrant an attempt. Classic Comms are much more easily (and faster) obtained from EV and KP, considering that EV can be finished in 35-40 minutes even on Nightmare Mode. Because it drops now obsolete 50 gear, there is no reason to run EC Story Mode.

Meanwhile EC HM (while contributes to the Ops weekly) is simply too hard for the average PuG group. This level 50 operation will kill level 55 people in Dread Forged and Oriconian stuff if they don't do the mechanics correctly. The skill check is as punishing as it was before the level cap raise (even more in some aspect, since too much DPS can cause problems too on Zorn and Toth and Firebrand and Stormcaller), so most groups never attempt to PuG it in HM. Why would they, anyway, when they can finish Eternity Vault or Karagga HM in 40 minutes and get the weekly? The Aratech Nightscythe and the Praxon bloodline were the biggest incentive for people to run EC HM but the widespread availability of much cooler looking speeders from the Cartel Market of similar model and color means nobody wants the Nightscythe and the Bloodline anymore. And it drops obsolete gear as well, so again, no reason to run EC Hard Mode. (Even the rare crystals it used to drop are purchasable on the GTN now.)

I think Denova HM is too difficult for the average PuG groups, so they don't run it. But its rewards are too insignificant for level 55s, so they don't run it either. In fact, so few people run Denova that plenty of people don't even know it exists. I watched the Ops chat on the fleet for many nights but I have yet to see someone trying to put together a group for Denova.

So, I would like to recommend streamlining Denova (especially Hard Mode) to bring it in line with the rest of the Operations of the game. Either:

A. Nerf the bosses in HM to the level of the EV and KP HM bosses, so people will actually consider doing Denova for the Classic Ops weekly.
B. Make Denova a level 55 Operation with a difficulty in line with Terror from Beyond and Scum and Villainy and give it its own weekly of Elite and Ultimate comms, so people will actually consider doing it.

I really like Denova, so please, anything you could do to make it more popular would be appreciated!