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Mallorik
12.13.2012 , 12:21 PM | #560
Quote: Originally Posted by BJWyler View Post
Good game based on what? Based on your playstyle and preferences. Right now, we are only assuming what a Western Style P2W type of model might do to a game. It hasn't been done yet in full force, so we can only surmise the end results based on our opinion of what is "good" for a game.

Back in 2005, players and the industry said you cannot create a good/AAA MMO without having a subscription based model. ArenaNet proved that theory incorrect. 2-3 years ago the industry and players said that no F2P game would ever be as good or polished as a sub based MMO title. That theory as also proved to be incorrect as witnessed by the most recent release - Planetside 2. We have not yet been able to fully test the theory that a Western Style "P2W" model could not create a good and successful game.

Again, businesses are in the business to make money. The current trend is that Cash Shops make a lot of money for an MMO, hence we see more and more MMOs adding them to their games. If it turns out that by allowing any and all gear that can be had in a game to also be sold in the cash shop is profitable, then you had better believe it will be done at some point. That game will be the lab test to see if it is a long term sustainable model. It it turns out it is, then you can bet on what the next trend in MMO business models in the West is going to be. You may not like it. You may not think it makes for a good game, but in the end that doesn't matter. Just like with WAR if enough people like it and it is good enough for them to make the game profitable, then that is all that is needed.

BJ
There have been several "f2p" games in the west that went "p2w" and crashed really really hard. I think Allods was one of them (its hard to remember the names of games you played for 25 minutes and uninstalled after you saw it was p2w) The big one was Runes of magic, it was an awsome game and packed full of people in beta, then it went live and brought in all the p2w features.

Players are like 2 year olds, they all know what they want but if you give them what they want they will get bored and wander off, being able to buy all the top teir space gear and top teir raid gear whether its from the cartel or the gtn is just a rediculously stupid idea for an mmo, and people who advocate it and do it will get bored and be leaving the game right after all the people who worked for their gear leave it.