There is absolutely no sense including 8-man raid groups in these progression charts. 8-man TFB and EC Nightmare are a joke to any serious progression based guild.
If the 8-man raid groups want to gloat about their progression let them do it in the RP forums...
As the GM of a 16 man progression guild I would like to say that this is exactly the type of ELITIST **** we do not need. Please refrain from this attitude. Treat 8 man and 16 man as two different brackets please, and do not compare the two.
P.S. Please do not respond to this troll.