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11.08.2012 , 02:21 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
The Council is not responsible for the Jedi Civil War or the atrocities at Malachor and Katar. That's all on Revan or the Emperor. It's not the Council's fault Revan made the choices he did before or after joining the war. He bears the responsibility for his own actions.

The Jedi Council was never going to let the Republic be destroyed. If the Mandalorians weren't stopped, they would have eventually intervened. The end result of the Council's actions would have been the Mandalorian Wars would have been much worse but the Jedi Civil War and the events of Kotor 2 would have been averted altogether. Revan was the one who set all those events in motion. In fact if they had intervened it might have gone worse for the Republic with so many more Jedi joining Revan's reckless crusade. Even if he wasn't leading it, he would have found a way to ensure things worked to his advantage like they did at Malachor.
But because Revan intervened, the events did happen. In order to prevent this from happening the Council should have intervened as soon as the Republic was threatened, in order to fulfill their promise to the Republic,
and prevent the brutal Mandalorian Crusade that was already threatening the Republic (Revan intervened because he saw this was happening, he effectively saved them from destruction). If Revan had never intervened, the Mandalorians would have swept forward, forcing the Jedi to fight them as finally they themselves became threatened. The result would likely have been the fall of the Republic, and if not that, they would have fallen to the Empire soon after. Hence irony of their actions.

As for them not being responsible for the actions of Revan, they were. The Jedi are responsible for the actions of all their members, even those who leave the order. Take the discussion between members of the Jedi Council after the exile of Meetra Surik:
Zez-Kai Ell: I fear it is our teachings that may have led Revan to choose the path he did.

Atris: We are not the ones who taught him.

Lonna Vash: We take responsibility, Atris, not cast blame.

Kavar: The choice of one was the choice of us all...
As you can see the Council held themselves responsible for Revan's actions. They (apart from Atris - but she was a fanatic and fell to the dark side) would have disagreed with you. And while they may not admit it (Zez-Kai Ell admits it later) it was also their apathy that led to Revan's actions. They are responsible. They let loose a dangerous force to wage war across the galaxy, one that would inevitably lead to the dark side and the repetition of the events of the Great Sith War. Would the same thing have happened anyway? Even under the Council's guidance. No. Revan had the power to manipulate, but ultimately he was just a Jedi, and had no power over the Council's decisions. Their decision would have been final, and the answer to the mass shadow generator would have been no. But it would never have come to this, with the full backing of the Jedi - the victory against the Mandalorians would be a decisive one.