Yea..and have you done any hard modes in 8man? It's a freakin' joke.
Thus..making my point still relevant.
Like..we cleared 4/5 Hard Modes on 8man with 4 pugs 2 or 3 weeks ago..it's like doing an HM FP..
I see 8man Nightmare being the same as 16man Hard Mode. Again..8mans are a joke. On pretty much any setting, compared to 16mans. THUS MAKING 16MANS MORE "HARD CORE"
Caps lock OMGAH
Its more just being done with all your lockouts, and all of hard mode an hour and a half into the week with a decent guild, or maybe 3 hours with some pugs..... thats not much But I guess 16 man would be more hardcore if it at least dropped more loot than 2 8 mans.