well thank you bio, that is enough for me, and this guy ^ isn't "serious about raiding", even if they know what they are doing, things always happen. and once again its more of a professional vs ghetto type of thing. meaning it is ghetto to be doing these /sit or /dance if you are all ready, or asking in vent in some sense of a role call, when you can be professional and click "ready check" 1sec later you get the results if the whole guild/pug are ready or not. it is cleaner this way... do not settle for the ghetto when you pay a sub.