They replaced me with a sage, and proceeded to down the boss thanks to the offheals.

Ah yeah, forgot about that. Yes, I do exploit this quite often. It'll get patched out at some point though I'm sure.

Fair point, but it doesn't change anything. All else equal, why take a shadow aside from loot composition :<

I'm an Infiltration specced Shadow, #2 in DPS for my guild according to parses. I just got swapped out of my regular raiding team because the guild realised I didn't bring anything to a raid beyond DPS. I can understand why they did it -- the guild's been struggling with hard mode EC and we need every buff and debuff we can. But my fellow DPSers bring more than I do: Sentinels - Inspiration (+dmg/healing raid buff), Passive raid heals, Armour debuff on the boss Gunslinger - Scrambling field (raid damage shield) Commando/Sage - Off heals, dispels, combat rez, combat CC Neither of my DPS trees can compete. I previously had use as a very temporary tank in other raids (eg. repositioning Soa under a pyramid if the tank gets mind trapped). Force valour can be applied by other people in the raid, and will progressively become less useful as more people get level 50 consulars in their legacies. Mind Maze has no use in combat. My control abilities (stun, low slash, slow etc) are fairly well mirrored across the dps classes. What can I do to compete? I'm leveling up a gunslinger for now. (cross posted because I realised this is a better place for discussion of the topic)

I'm an Infiltration specced Shadow, #2 in DPS for my guild according to parses. I just got swapped out of my regular raiding team because the guild realised I didn't bring anything to a raid beyond DPS. I can understand why they did it -- the guild's been struggling with hard mode EC and we need every buff and debuff we can. But my fellow DPSers bring more than I do: Sentinels - Inspiration (+dmg/healing raid buff), Passive raid heals, Armour debuff on the boss Gunslinger - Scrambling field (raid damage shield) Commando/Sage - Off heals, dispels, combat rez, combat CC Neither of my DPS trees can compete. I previously had use as a very temporary tank in other raids (eg. repositioning Soa under a pyramid if the tank gets mind trapped). Force valour can be applied by other people in the raid, and will progressively become less useful as more people get level 50 consulars in their legacies. Mind Maze has no use in combat. My control abilities (stun, low slash, slow etc) are fairly well mirrored across the dps classes. What can I do to compete? I'm leveling up a gunslinger for now.

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WoW's launch was one of massive queues, crashed servers, lagfests, day-long server maintenance outages and 5 people occupying each square metre. SWTOR's launch, so far, is one of smooth pings, crisp gameplay, adequately populated areas... and a forum full of entitled people ************ about how they want to play so hard that they're going to cancel their pre-orders. At least the forums are similar!

I believe hoods can go over them, yes. My Miraluka in beta had a face veil. It still displayed with a full hood over it, so I don't see why other masks won't function the same.

And look where Rift is now.

They promised early access, nothing more.