Perhaps I was unclear about my reasons for trying to get this thread back on track. My sorc (riegan) is my main, I pug rateds occasionally with the strong imp players I grouped with on belgoths beacon and fatman, but these days I mostly farm regs to gear my other toons. I leveled my sage to 50 for the exact reasons you stated above, and because it's satisfying to beat imp guild premades (composed of the egos that caused this thread to derail into ss's and epeen stroking) . plus its always cute to see the pubs in ops chat expressing surprise that they're actually winning for once. Haven't found any core groups on pub side to run with though, so that's why I'm here. I don't claim to throw out the biggest numbers, or be impossible to kill, but outsmarting a tank or dps with my hybrid heals to cap grass (or snow, on pub side) is so much more satisfying against an imp guild premade rather than a clueless pub pug. Hit me up if you wanna finish your weekly.