Hi all, and any Devs who might be listening. Does anyone know whether the HK-55 chapter is around to stay, or whether it's a limited time offer on the Cartel Market? I'm hoping it's around to stay so I have long enough to save my Cartel Sub coins for it.

'It's against the lore' These guys, the scriptwriters and developers 'write' the lore. If it happens in this game, it becomes the lore of this game. That's how it works. What it is against, is 'how you think the lore should work, based on all of the other existing lore that you're aware of.'

I'd just like to say thanks to all the 'Thanks for the... <3 <3 <3 This is a love thread, haters make your own lol.' threads. It has provided light relief and entertainment in a forum that is at times a hive of glum and misery. The biggest way to keep a game strong and healthy is to have a healthy community behind it.

I love CZ-198 and would love to have a Czerka themed stronghold, with research labs and the like. If you were to have a Czerka themed stronghold, what rooms would you want? Is anyone else a Czerka fan, or is it just me?

Back in! Well done for feeding the hamsters!

To be fair, this isn't really a common thing in my experience of SWTOR. Mostly there's the inevitable patch after any major and occasionally minor update to fix the things that got broken by it, but other than that, this has fairly steady uptime for me.

It's down for me too. Release the Kraken!

Some fair points there, especially with regards to the Terms and Conditions and their legally binding status. It'd occurred to me about the possibility that they need to incentivise subscribers for long-term financial stability compared to people being able to buy things when they choose to do so (and can afford to do so). As for the Jags, again, as with most of Capitalism, it's an economy based on perception and arbitrary values, but as you say, we live in the real world. As far as the real world goes though, there are things we can influence, and there are things that we can not. Personally, I choose, where there is a forum to provide an opportunity to influence, to make an attept to do so. As it happens, maybe if you and others like you expressed an interest in the Star Trek experience, and sufficient interest was expressed, they may consider it commercially viable to 'Make it So' again. Either way, I hope you do get a chance as it sounds like it might have been pretty awesome.

To be fair, as strange as this may seem, at one point I had an issue with the culture of entitlement, and in some ways, I still do. I have however learned to question why people are being denied certain things, and whether those reasons are valid or not. I can, obviously live without things in my life. Living in a position of general financial disadvantage, I often have to. But that doesn't mean I have to like a system that creates an imbalance and denies things to others, whilst the 'Haves' look down upon the 'Have Nots' for daring to complain about not having the opportunities they were given, and worse still, the 'Have Nots' rolling over and accepting their lot in life. You'll find also my questioning of these things doesn't really just stem from jealousy of the 'I want the shiny', as I woudl be lying if I said that wasn't partly a motivator, but also I believe in a sort of Creative Commons culture of sharing of things between people openly, and not denying things to others simply because they don't have the money. Obviously we live in the real world and it's a Corporate Capitalist world and we have to live with that. As nice and shiny an idea as a world where money is no longer required and everyone has access to everything (speaking of Star Trek, that's kind of where they got to with replicators and the understanding that senselessly denying other people things wasn't really a good way to go.) As you mention the pre-order stuff, as I haven't explicitly stated that previously, I'd also lump that into things that should have been 'Early Access' rather than 'Only Access'. Put simply, the only reason 'Only Access' is used, is because some guy in an Office decided that's the way it should be, there's no 'good' reason for it. Yeah, I don't have to like it, yeah, I'll probably have to live with it, but if I don't like it, and I can make a suggestion, explain my reasoning and someone listens and then it changes and suddenly it's 'Early Access' and then anyone can, in time, access the things, why is that a bad thing to aim for? 'It's just the way it is, deal with it' doesn't really cut it with me. My postulate: The only reason people want to deny others things is because they put more value in things that are rare and wanting to own the rare thing than in creating a society where all people have an equal and fair opportunity. Also, you missed that Star Trek experience? Have you ever asked to see whether it will be put on again? To be fair though, on reflection, 'punish' was an incredibly poor choice of words vented at a time of frustration. The system still rankles me though for the reasons I've stated, and not just for my own personal gain, but so that other people can have access to things too, rather than just because I want the thing. I want everyone to have the ability to access what I have.

1) Semantics are important. 2) Things only have meaning if they are rare? Personally, I find the value of something to be intrinsic to itself, not a function of how rare or not it is. HK-55 is a well designed bit of content. His 'meaning' to me doesn't derive from him being a sub only content, but the fact that he's a quality bit of design. The Imperial Trooper Armour isn't meaningful to RP'ers because it's rare, it's because it allows you to dress up and function as an IC Trooper unit. Now all that much more difficult because it was an Only Access bit of Collector's edition stuff. 3) The Rat has a much better argument than you to be fair, so I'd rather spend more time countering their points as they're more logical.

But why? Why choose to say 'no, you can't have that because reasons'. Why not let Johnny have the thing? It has no material impact upon you, so what reason do people have to say that Johnny should not have the thing? By this, I assume you mean greed. To me, 'promotional windows' are simply psychological tricks used on people to promote desire by exploiting their base psychology. Creating artificial scarcity and demand. My point is, we don't have to live that way, we don't have to accept that people should be denied things just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time because of entirely arbitrary reasons. Why is it greed to want to be able to enjoy things that are arbitrarily denied to you? Or, from a different angle, why do people feel the need to deny others things when it could be arranged that others could access those things? To me, that's also greed, the desire for exclusivity. The desire to be the special flower. I get that we live in a capitalist society, and so they need our money to function. I just think if you're going to have a model, Early Access is better/fairer than Only Access. If you think I'm wrong, explain to me why it should be Only Access and why people should be not allowed to access things if they can't afford it at the time because of entirely arbitrary reasons. Other things in life, (within reason) I can save up for if I 'really' want it. No, that would be Only Access. Pre-orders get to access things early, then after that everyone can access the thing. I wasn't aware of the time-card to be fair, and I forgot that you don't have to be logged in during these events, just subscribed. There used to be things where you actually had to log in during the event, but I don't recall that being a thing recently, so yeah, not such a relevant example.

At what point did I declare your life perfect?

Personally, I'd be fine with Cartel Coins, this is all about people's ability to afford things, and if they've saved up a stash of CC's for rainy day funds when the finances hit hard times, then why not? As for HK himself, I think about 1000 CCs would be a fair and not unprecedented amount if I'm not mistaken. I think Treek is/was about 1k CCs? As for the total content, then maybe yes, both CCs and/or money. Like the Rise of the Hutt Cartel, but I'd say worth more. To be fair, you could do a Collector's Edition for the KOTFE stuff with all the sub rewards in and charge a fair chunk for that, that might be fair I guess.

I think you'll find my suggestion actually does take into account a lot of people's situations and actually, no, financial hardship isn't 'great'. And if you chose a 'promotional window' over something 'less' essential, like food, or gas and electricity, then good for you. It seems you clearly have your life priorities well sorted and thus clearly in a position to rain down judgement on the rest of us. In fairness, 'punishment' may have been an overexaggeration, but it can feel like that at times. They call it the Poverty Trap for a reason. Want to save money on fuel, you have to buy a more fuel efficient car, which is more expensive than the old clapped out cars. Want to save money on rent, well, you'll need money for a deposit on a house. Etc. etc. etc. It'd just be nice if a company instead of using Only Access 'promotional windows', just gave people a chance and have it 'Early Access'. There's also an argument for Serving Personnel in the various militaries to be given a chance to access stuff. I think I recall Star Wars Galaxies was great at giving them the odd thing here and there as a thank you for service to the country, but I can't exactly remember how.

Hi all, So yeah, I feel like people shouldn't be punished for being poor or encountering financial difficulties. I'd much rather see an 'Early Access' model than an 'Only Access', where you can only have access to content if you happened to have enough money at the time to afford the Collector's Edition or subscribe. I speak as someone who has the collector's edition and feel frustrated that potentially one of the best bits of RP gear, the Imperial Trooper armour has been locked behind such a massive paywall. I also speak as someone who went through a year or two of financial difficulty and so have missed out on a number of HK rewards, and given that Bioware seem to have done such a fantastic job of making HK an amazingly engaging character, it does disappoint me that I won't be able to access him at all, ever, simply because I was being screwed over by RL circumstances. I understand EA have to make a revenue, and I don't expect everything to be handed out for free, but if things were put on the Cartel Market for a period of time after others who 'bought the thing' or 'had enough money at the time', for those who end up finding themsleves in a better place, it would at least give people a chance to catch up on content they've missed. I wouldn't even care if I had to wait a year before being able to access it, just knowing that if I spent some time saving up for it, whilst I might not have money at the time when it was 'available', I could at least get it later. So, that's my suggestion for the Cartel Market. Allow people a chance to purchase things they've missed out on because life just wasn't being kind to them at the time. Don't kick people whilst they're down.