Didnt know that it was possible to kill Team Ranked twice, but congratulations Bioware, you even managed to do that. Like do you guys even follow your own game? Can't you see how you are absolutely killing the small pvp scene thats still left?

Is this thread even real... Is this what TOFN has become?

No we have not. But we havent played that much since Battlefront was released, maybe only 3-4 evenings.

Its only been some hours. Stop feeling so self-entitled.

lol..

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you have never ever played group ranked. This is one of the most ignorant things i've read on this forum, and that says a lot.

I would like to expand on this specific topic (solo vs group ranked rewards) a bit. I have played ranked pvp in this game ever since it existed for 8v8 and it has always been my favorite thing to do in this game - play competetive pvp with other people who share the same interest. One thing about this was the 8v8 ranked items, those were really difficult to get because of the time it took, but when you finally got them it felt really rewarding since you knew that there wasn't many people who were able to get these items, thats the kind of exclusitivity I want for the ranked arena rewards to be like. In the end 8v8 died out so at the beginning of arenas I was happy about the change because it would mean that there would be a lot of teams playing group ranked. And there were a lot of teams queueing for group ranked, both on PTS and in the pre-season, which was very fun. I finished season 1 as the highest ranked marauder for grouped ranked, it felt pretty good because during season 1 we had a lot of tough opponents (which is vastly changed now in season 6). The rewards were fairly nice (even though there were no top3 title back then) and the only complaint was that the tiers were very off (way too low rating required). Now season 2 came and my team played in the beginning, but my run ended pretty quickly, why? because almost all teams from season 1 quit the game (like a domino effect, people quit because other people quit) so I didnt get the satisfaction of playing group ranked when the pops took 30 minutes or even higher. In season 2 the top3 titles were introduced and it was a really good implementation, but it was also awarded for Soloq, which is where I started to see a huge problem. People wouldn't bother gathering a team for grouped ranked because they might as well earn their rewards in soloq - and this is the reason why the "competetive PvP scene" in SWTOR is so bad. The people who took their time to gather a team of good players and then playing an entire season together is rewarded the same as a player who played soloq each day hoping to get in an arena with other good people, which i find very wrong. So there are some pointers that i would like to share: 1. Its an MMO, people who take their time to organize and play together should be rewarded better than people who dont bother because they might as well play soloq since its easier for them. 2. How it currently works it just gives even more reason for "sync-queuers" to do what they do. There is a specific guild on ToFN that i wont name that constantly does this while not queueing for grouped ranked at all, why? Because its easier for them to get these rewards by doing it like that instead of playing against another organized team. 3. Negativity. Almost all I see in the pvp chat currently is people complaining about their teammates being bad in their last soloq-game, over and over again while I sit on the fleet waiting for another team to queue for group ranked. So why not make those kind of people interested in group ranked? 4. Balancing. With group ranked you will get the most out of your class than in any other current pvp activity. With more teams queueing, you will get more data, and with more data you will be able to balance the classes in a PvP aspect much better, since essentially group ranked is where the classes are truly tested against eachother since its usually experienced players. Isn't this what you want as a PvP dev, Alex Modny? One example of this is Snipers. I see people asking for Sniper buffs because they are easily killed in their soloq game, meanwhile in group ranked its one of the strongest classes in the game (together with PT and Sorc). So if I was to decide I would remove all the rewards from soloq all-together (or change them drastically), but I know thats not going to happen, so a more fair "bioware way" would be to just remove the top3 class titles from soloq and then add something extra for the group ranked players, like an exclusive mount you can only buy if you have reached a certain group rating, like it was back in the days with the old 8v8 ranked items. With this change you would give people incentive to play group ranked instead of grinding in soloq.

Yeah it would be really good if the pve people would stick to the pve section and talk about the stuff they have knowledge about over there and let the pvp people talk with our knowledge over here on our section. Happy life.

How about fixing Powertechs and Assassins in time for Season 4 then? Will that happen as well, or are you guys gonna keep ignoring that issue?

Yep I agree, putting rating in soloq is a really dumb idea and shouldnt have been there in the first place.

Vis Fatalis is a fairly big social pvp guild. They have many people queueing each night, so they are bound to get into the same arena occasionally. Skyrush is an honorable player and i know that he is against the so called "wintrading". Oh and the fact that they are in teamspeak together? Please, they have many players, of course they would want to socialize with eachother, nothing wrong with that. You guys should just drop the entire thing and move on..

So if you base this on your server, i want to know what kind of marauders/sentinels you have on your server to classify them as "B-tier". The title of this thread should be "Classes and Specs for Ranked Group Arena ON THE BASTION/PoT5- Tiered"

Getting 1500 rating only requires like 2 days to get anyways..

The other 95% doesnt even play the game anymore.. Also, the current rank 1 team just unsubbed from the game, have fun getting that spot guys.. or you know, just stop at 1500 rating.

Tier 1 is 1500 rating?... Really? Thats pretty much what you get for getting 10 opening wins... The point of these rewards is that they shouldnt be accessible THIS easy. What a slap in the face for the people trying to top the boards hoping it would be a little bit harder to get the tier 1 rewards.