I've been respectful to most replies, if you cared to read all of them, you would see that. When someone is being disrespectful and a smart @***, I will show them that respect in kind. Also stated in this thread, I have mentioned numerous times that I was interested in peoples feedback. So actively reading and responding isn't "attacking the messenger." It's something you do in a "General Discussion" which is where I thought I posted this post. Your post is a total misrepresentation of the whole thread. But I can see now after a day that the hordes of "I like cutscenes" or "I dont mind them" have flooded this thread and the thousands of people that ive played with asking for spacebar are simply not forum go'ers. So this will be my last post. What a "compulsive" move on my part.

You saw one response and made your judgement call. Read the back and fourth and it's clear that was defending my point after he was clearly misrepresenting my statements in a disrespectful way. I do know what common courtesy. It's requires "the collective." If everyone but 1 cares, well sorry for that 1 but group rules.

Valid points. Thank you for your feedback. May I ask how long you've played and how many flashpoints you ran? Because Ive been playing on and off since launch and I've played hundreds of flashpoints, but I can't honestly understand why you would want to just stare at yourself during every single cutscene when you've seen the same dialog over and over again when you could just simply stare at yourself in your ship and do a bunch of emotes and what not. Maybe you have't ran flashpoints hundreds of times?

You can find guilds that cater to your needs. A guild leader that responded on this post would be a good fit for you from the sounds of it. Also, that "one guy" is more than one guy. It's more than 100 guys, 1000s. When you've played the game for a decent amount of time and have seen the cutscenes hundreds of times, most people think it gets old. Not all, but most. When you are trying to level/gear up and you are playing for long periods of time, a lot of time occurs during those cutscenes when it could just be plowing through the flashpoint. You could easily complete 4 to 5 additional flashpoints if you are doing 6 to 8 hour groupfinding, if you don't bother with cutscenes you have seen hundreds of time. But if the group as a whole doesn't mind, then Ok. I'm completely fine with waiting. I'm only talking about the majority. But thank you for your feedback. But I agree with you. It should be on an individual basis. That would be amazing.

1, 2, and 3 is correct. Requiring people to do a story mode will let the person get to know the layout of the map, the setup of mobs, base mechanics of bosses, and the lore. This would dramatically improve peoples quality of life while using groupfinder. You may find the amount of time spent on cutscenes timing out or people watching all of them as insignificant, but that is your opinion. I would much rather go through 4 to 5 flashpoints skipping all cutscenes and get a free flashpoint completion in because we saved all that time. (I understand some flashpoints have short cutscenes, but some have long ones. I'm discussing on average) That is my opinion as well as a lot of people like me. Granted none of them have really backed me up as of yet in the forums, but they surely exist in game or I wouldn't have bothered with this post originally. Yes, it could be a lot of work for them to do, or it wouldn't be . It may be as simple as removing a few paragraphs of code. Entering a few and done. This is a general discussion on the forum, I'm generally interested in feedback.

I have no doubt that this happens from time to time, but unless the person just started to learn how to type and needs to search through every single key to type out SPACEBAR, this is inaccurate for you to say "most of the time." Takes me 1 second to type spacebar. I'll give 5 seconds for the average typer, you have about 15 to 20 seconds before the dialog choice pops up. There is absolutely no way this is happening consistently. But thank you for at least agreeing that all flashpoints should have story mode. Maybe that simple addition to the game would drastically improve groups quality or life and drop the "I want to see the cutscene" enough.

First off, let me say that it doesn't matter how perfect a post can ever be, there will still be people that "may have reacted differently than I anticipated." That is the internet nowadays. It is outrage culture. People will find a way to be outraged regardless. In no way was my post meant to be my outrage. I saw something annoying that seems to be an issue with most of my group composition, I figured I would express my thoughts and offer up a solution. I can only account for my experiences. I have made it quite clear that there are groups out there that don't mind watching cut scenes and taking their dandy old time killing every single mob, and doing every single objective. In my experience, most group compositions prefer a spacebarring cutscene and quick completion. 3 out of 4. Keyword here is most. Not all. So when I state that one person is wasting the groups time when I'm talking about the majority of groups, when all 3 people agree except for that 1 person, that is an accurate statement. Second, the virtue signaling moron comment I can understand being a bit misleading, but when taken into the full context of my original post, in my opinion justified. Let me clarify. Rarely is there any communication or response from the people AFKing at dialog or not spacebaring when asked. Sometimes they are afk and let the conversation timer run until it automatically continues. But the virtue signaling moron I refer to is a person that immediately insults the people simply asking for a spacebar and tells them "quit bit**ing, maybe they haven't seen the cutscene. I was spacebarring but now I'm just going to fully time out the cutscenes since you guys are complaining about it." All of that for simply writing "spacebar." Mind you, the people that don't spacebar don't say anything. It's only the "virtue signaling morons" need to step in and type for the typeless and are generally rude. More rude I would say than anyone that I have ever seen explain to someone why to spacebar and why you should do story mode (Yes I know, if it's available) rather than put 3 people through it, or 2 when the 3rd turns virtuous. Both sides are rude. I get that. But my main point in this whole post was to discuss instances where group majority is the factor. When I'm the minority, I play along or get out. I'm fine with that.

That is a very kind and understanding of you guys. I give you guys props. But I don't really understand why this was roped into this conversation. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I honestly don't understand. You guys don't mind full clearing or watching all cut scenes. Most of the groups I group have 3 players wanting to skip content and cutscenes with except ions of that 1 person, (rarely the third spacebarrer turns into virtue signaling moron that I mentioned trying to get brownie points for sticking up for the minority) If I'm in a group with you, your husband, and another person that wants to watch and kill everything, then of course I will have to accept it or leave. I have no issues with this. My only issue is when 3 people want something and the 4th acts inconsiderate. Sure, if the guy asks kindly or says sorry but I haven't seen this, then fine. I don't mind. But its the people that go full blown nerd rage even after calmly getting explained the reasons.

Very true. I'll just copy/paste my reply from someone else in here as well because responds perfectly to your response as well: The only thing that I would like to reiterate is people can have fun, do their achievements, and be efficient all at the same time. It's all about the majority. I am fully aware if I'm the only one asking for a spacebar, sure it sucks, but I deal. I'm only bringing up the majority of my groupfinders that call for spacebar by everyone, even when that flashpoint does have a story mode, and those people clearly state "I don't care" or tell the group the F off. When you queue for groupfinder, you work together "as a group." Your playstyle should reflect that. As in what's best for the group. If the group is calling for fast, efficient, skip the cutscenes, then that should be the playstyle. That playstyle is not being forced on anyone. That should just be a given. If the whole group but me want's to watch cutscenes and take a 15 minute break smack dab in the middle of a flashpoint, it's my choice to follow the group or leave. I understand that.

Nicely articulated. Thank you for not throwing insults and misrepresenting what I stated. I have absolutely not issues with anything you stated here. The only thing that I would like to reiterate is people can have fun, do their achievements, and be efficient all at the same time. It's all about the majority. I am fully aware if I'm the only one asking for a spacebar, sure it sucks, but I deal. I'm only bringing up the majority of my groupfinders that call for spacebar by everyone, even when that flashpoint does have a story mode, and those people clearly state "I don't care" or tell the group the F off. When you queue for groupfinder, you work together "as a group." Your playstyle should reflect that. As in what's best for the group. If the group is calling for fast, efficient, skip the cutscenes, then that should be the playstyle. That playstyle is not being forced on anyone. That should just be a given. If the whole group but me want's to watch cutscenes and take a 15 minute break smack dab in the middle of a flashpoint, it's my choice to follow the group or leave. I understand that.

I agree totally. That was all my point. My point with this whole conversation is for the most part, there are 3 people wanting spacebar, one does not or AFKs through the dialog. It's the group collective. In your situation, with 1 wants to watch, 2 don't care, of course at that point common courtesy for "my choice" is to deal with it or leave. Absolutely.

Bravo

Brilliance at it's best Ladies and Gentleman. /golfclap

I have already updated my previous post to clarify and correct it. In a nutshell. All flashpoints should have story modes for the reasons I described before. Your statement about "Just kick them" is awfully inconsiderate. You try to make me out to be some sort of tyrant yet you are for just kicking someone for not spacebarring. I totally disagree with you. I'm not petty. But I do want people to understand why people are always saying spacebar at cutscenes. I also disagree with you about if the 3 people are asking for a spacebar, the common courtesy in that situation is to watch it or leave. That is not common courtesy. I specified that clearly in my post so I wont repeat myseIf. I don't disagree with your statement about a waste of time being a matter of opinion. That's fact and I thought was common sense that didn't need to be stated, but you did, so....thanks? This all goes back to "you" or "others." If 3 people are asking for spacebars in a calm manner without insult, group collective in that time over weighs that 1. Respecting the collective is common courtesy. Not the good of one. You may have had some bad experiences with extremely rude people insulting people for not spacebaring. We aren't talking about them. I don't agree with that and I don't condone it.

Well first, I stated that "on average" for cutscenes. Sometimes they are only 2 dialogue sections where there is only a 1 quick sentence then choice. Others are like false emperor and take quite longer. But on average, it is absolutely not 30 seconds. 15 to 20 seconds is an average spacebaring skip sequence if they aren't super mashing it and choosing right away. But with your comment about you start to let the dialog go if someone starts "shouting" at other members. First, I would need context. Is there a flashpoint voice chat that I'm not aware of (sarcasm) ? Ok, so then just typing with all caps SPACEBAR? Most people use caps especially in cutscenes so people can see it. Caps doesn't always mean "rude or yelling." Now that we got all the rediculous claims out of the way, If they honestly start typing "Hey idiot, spacebar you tool. You are wasting our time." then sure, they need to be taught some manners and I would say for you also not spacebaring would be an acceptable and understandable response. But if they are just typing spacebar, and calmly expressing that it is holding back the group, then you are just inconsiderate and quite frankly an @sshole at the point. If there were no insults, and you are doing something just for spite, then you are a "virtue signaling moron" that I stated in my post, and you have no common decency for others. You have 2 other people in the group typing spacebar, you stated that you normally do, but then you stop just to get your virtue signaling brownie points for that 1 individual and you disregard the other 2.