Hi Meghost, So great to see a husband and wife team playing together. We have had so many in our 14+ years together. Including members no 1 & 2 over 800+ members ago who are husband & wife team. My name is Kismet, Leader & founder of one of the longest running gaming guilds. We are a casual, Adult guild with members of a wide age level. We play on both Republic & Empire with guild ships on both. We are active, with tons of great people to hang out with, chat and overall have a fun time. We are active to a point you might not believe. Live streaming on Twitch & often #1 for SWTOR, Youtube Guides & Videos almost everyday on YouTube, Raids, Parties, Events, Training sessions & much more. I can also certainly understand how tough it is to get that game time in with kids. I have 3 myself, 11 year old & twins who are 8, all girls. Many of our members have families & children so we are sensitive to members real life needs. Feel free to check us out at our info below. Check us out at on: SWTOR thread on the forums here Web: KismetBP.com Watch us live on Twitch: http://www.twitch.com/kismet_ringofdestiny. We are based on our three virtues: Honor - Loyalty - Respect with a /nodrama. Filled with tons of awesome people to hang out with for Raids, Heriocs, PVP, etc. Very active & founding member of Jedi Covenant. Or feel free to jump on our Discord and ask us any questions you might have. I'll be streaming live tonight @ 9pm ET on Twitch as well. Discord Voice server Link here. We consider our team a Gaming Family, I hope you consider being part of it. - Kismet Leader & Founder, Kismet, Ring of Destiny

Hi AJohnTheDon, Saw your post & thought i'd drop in and say hi. We might be a good fit for you. Forget all the foolishness of other guilds like applications, treating you like an outsider. We treat our members as part of the team from day 1. Need help leveling up, getting gear, learning skill rotations, pvp, Raiding? Our members are ready to help. My name is Kismet, Leader & founder of one of the longest running gaming guilds 14+ years running. Feel free to check us out at on our thread on the forums here or KismetBP.com &/or just watch us live on Twitch @ http://www.twitch.com/kismet_ringofdestiny. We are based on our three virtues: Honor - Loyalty - Respect with a /nodrama. Filled with tons of awesome people to hang out with for Raids, Heriocs, PVP, etc. Very active & founding member of Jedi Covenant. Or feel free to jump on our Discord and ask us any questions you might have. I'll be streaming live tonight @ 9pm ET on twitch as well. Hope to see you then! Discord Voice server Link here. - Kismet Leader & Founder, Kismet, Ring of Destiny

Thanks all for supporting our newest members. If your reading this and wondering whats an easy way to find out about us, just jump on our Discord Text Chat & Voice server & feel free to ask questions. Hope to see you there!

/nodrama? We know know all about that. Hi Sturm Brightblade, (My guess is your name is from Dragonlance, love that book series) Just happen to be going by the forums & saw your post. My name is Kismet, Leader & founder of one of the longest running gaming guilds 14+ years running. Feel free to check us out at on our thread on the forums here or KismetBP.com &/or just watch us live on Twitch @ http://www.twitch.com/kismet_ringofdestiny. We are based on our three virtues: Honor - Loyalty - Respect with a /nodrama. Filled with tons of awesome people to hang out with for Raids, Heriocs, PVP, etc. Very active & founding member of Jedi Covenant. Or feel free to jump on our Discord and ask us any questions you might have. I'll be streaming live tonight @ 9pm ET on twitch as well. Hope to see you then! Discord Voice server Link here. - Kismet Leader & Founder, Kismet, Ring of Destiny

A new series by Kismet. Leader of one of the longest running gaming guilds, Graphic Designer, Pro Gamer, Twitch Streamer & YouTube Artist. Kismet talks about various skills, combos, utilities, UI & other techniques you'll need to master to build a better healing technique on the Sage. These skills can also be used on the Sith Sorcerer. Kismet goes above and beyond to break down complex ideas into simple to understand, to the point, video series. Get through those raids easier, faster & keep your Spouse agro at a minimum. Playlist: .. More coming soon! UI, Gear & much more! Looking to be part of a gaming team that will treat you right? Pop over to KismetBP.com to see what we are about.

Hi, My Team & I have been on Jedi Covenant since the game launch. I took a break from the game until last November. The server it usually quite active on both Republic & Empire sides. Tons of peeps around for Flashpoints, Pug'n in a person or two for raids if we need to, etc... Plus tons of really great peeps hang out on JC. I love meeting new people around the fleet & various planets. Hope you enjoy your return to JC. Best wishes, - Kismet Leader, Kismet, Ring of Destiny

Hello to all who, like us, make Jedi Covenant our home. (Or might wish to make it your home.) I am Kismet, Leader & Founder of one of the longest running gaming guilds, Kismet, Ring of Destiny. We have been together for over 14 years with over 800 members over that time. We are once again recruiting new members in SWTOR. We take all types of players. To us, YOU are what is most important, not your background, stuff or things. Find a home & become part of our Gaming Family. We have a brilliant team of leaders who can help with all types of group content, such as Operations (Raiding), PVP, Flash Points, Conquest, you name it. Whether your up for serious raiding or just love to chill out and play some Hot Potato Huttball, we are the team for you. Quote: “Having a Destiny doesn't mean anything, if your not willing to put in the time to fulfill it.” - Kismet Quick Kismet Team Info: - Years together: 14+ | Total members during that time: 800+ - Server: Jedi Covenant | US East Server | Republic Guild: KismetBP | Empire Guild: Spear of Destiny - Casual up to Endgame Progression (Play what you enjoy!) - Age Requirements: 18+ - The KismetBP started SWTOR in “Pre-Launch” on Jedi Covenant with 60 members, grew to around 300. - Kismet attended the Guild Summit in 2012 and enjoyed meeting Bioware employees, eating the free food, Watching Star Wars Ep 1 for free & his favorite part, meeting tons of other awesome Guild Leaders. Who is a good fit for our team? - Positive, Honorable, Fiercely Loyal & Respectful of others. - Mature people who are 18+. We have members of all ages from in the teens all the way up to 70+. Age makes no difference to us, games are the great thing that brings us all together. - Willing to use voice chat to talk or just to listen. We do accommodate players who wish to type in chat & listen on our voice server. Some people are just old school, we respect that. - New to games? Or Old School MMO player? YOU are what is most important, all other things can be learned and earned over time. What the Kismet BP has to offer that sets us apart: - Find a home. Be part of a Gaming Family that respects you and lets you participate from Day 1. - An active guild filled with people who are respectful, willing to help each other and working together toward a common goal. - We are known for our teamwork, our respect for each other and the community. - Member Teamwork Training: Want be a better DPS? Tank? Healer? Our Teamwork training will show you how. - Guild Events: Weekly Operations, Parties, Meetings, Community Events & we even love to Dance, be Silly & Laugh! - Kismet BP Discord Server: Text & Voice chat. - Extensive and professionally designed: Kismet BP Website, Kismet_Ringofdestiny Live Stream, Social Media, Videos with guides and tips. Plus team T-Shirts, mugs & other Kismet Team Items, show your team pride! Don’t believe me? Check it out: http://www.kismetbp.com - Guild Ships on both sides: Republic & Empire - A leader who is around, a Hardcore player, fiercely dedicated to the team and cares about everyone of his members. How to join: We no longer have an “Application process”, this is outdated and we discontinued it. Instead, we will give you a easy new member quest to see if you are willing to participate and will enjoy being part of the team. Your New Member Quest: 1. Follow our Virtues: Honor - Loyalty - Respect & (as a one of my members coined) do a /dramaoff 2. Keep it PG13 in Voice Chat (I’m no saint, but lets keep it comfortable for people to relax at the end of a hard day) 3. Jump on the KismetBP Discord Voice/Chat Server: Request to join in Chat “Hey all, I’d like to join!” 4. You’ll be added as a Recruit. 5. Group up with members, Heroics, Flash Points, Operations, Datacron run, anything that involves working together. 6. Let Kismet or Officer know your new member quest now is complete: You will be upgraded to “Honored Member” you will then will have full member benefits. 7. Thats it, easy… no "applications" needed, they are so 1990's. Thank you for taking the time to read this. We hope, whatever path you choose, you have a great journey. If you have any further questions feel free to contact Kismet or an officer via our Discord Server. - Kismet Leader, Kismet, Ring of Destiny Our Social Media Links: Watch Live on our: Kismet_Ringofdestiny Twitch Live Stream Check all our media at once via the Kismet BP Website Subscribe & watch SWTOR Guides plus Highlights on our YouTube Follow our Twitter Page Check out the latest member updates on Facebook.

Hi all, Have not been to the forums in awhile. Made this fun video of my team playing some Hot Potato Hutt Ball and thought i'd get some community feedback. Let me know what you think. I'm always working to improve my videos. Enjoy & Thanks, - Kismet Leader, Kismet Ring of Destiny Kismet BP Website Kismet Twitch Channel

Probably true on the holding their breath & lack of understanding on their community. Though I like to stay positive and hold out hope that maybe this will be the time where it is different. Come on Bioware/EA, I believe in the power to not repeat past mistakes! Don't ignore the problem, address it and direction change. You'll gain much more respect that way. - Kismet

Do you actually have children? I do, 3 of them. I also have had over 800 members over the the last 14 years as leader of my team. You are defending poor decision making which is the worst thing you can do as a adult, parent or as a leader. If you think this is just about one person, your totally wrong. Its about spending hundreds of hours putting a team together and then, again (just like in the first year of SWTOR) people making really poor decisions at Bioware/EA. Then not having the resolve or being adult enough to admit they made a mistake. Then fix them. This event is a mistake, short sighted and an insult to veteran players. You don't slap people in the face and then expect them to keep on wanting to hang around you. That is what people feel like, weather you think they feel "Entitled" or your just "Above" everyone else in your thinking. This was a poor choice and if they could find a way to say "Our bad, lets fix this." Excluding people or forcing them to redo hundreds of hours of content they have done 100x over is just a poor idea. It does the worst thing: causes people to want to leave the game. That is the exact opposite of what any game content should do. The fact remains, people will feel the way they feel. My job as leader is to voice their concerns. Here is hoping for the best from Bioware/EA this time. Someone there has got to have the guts to man up and say, "This was a bad choice, thanks for the feedback and we will take action to make it right with our players." Thats a good decision. - Kismet

Extremely well written Rolodome. I totally agree.

I can see where your coming from Savej, but your not being brave enough or looking at the big picture. It is not my Intention to "Make them feel bad". I have been in graphic design for 25 years, i would NEVER insult my clients in this way by excluding them or forcing them to purchase additional items to get what new clients already get. It just is not a smart business move, it insults people, they will feel slighted. Of any field Design is one where you have constant and honest feedback. Be an adult and be able to listen to it and improve. I mean that in the most respectful way. Some Suggestions Off the top of my head I could say: 1) Postpone and apologize. Gain some good will back. 2) They need to give Long time Players/Subbs the extra Characters slots of free. 3) Retro actively give vet players their due. Let what they have already go toward these items. 4) When designing an event, Think about what effect it will have on your player base. Try it on the test server first and request feedback from veterans. Don't assume that you know everything or "Whats best" for players. Feedback is the life blood of any great company. People do not want play through HUNDREDS OF hours again for this. Its just not a smart idea, it doesn't include vet players. You come out with content only to penalize & insult long time players. Btw I am being mature, Polite and most importantly honest about the situation. Telling people "If they don't like it, they can leave" is childish and immature. Maybe take your own advice? Ignoring a problem, doesn't fix it. You have to have the courage to stand up and say "hey I like what you guys have been doing (and I do or I would of not spent hundreds of hours bringing my members back to SWTOR) & I don't want to see you loose a massive ton of veteran/Subbed players because I was not willing to tell you the truth or for you to be open minded enough to listen" Here's hoping! - Kismet

Whining, me? Never. I just brave enough to voice my members Concerns. How many hours have you spent trying to get people back to SWTOR? 5, 10, 50 Hours? How about hundreds of hours like me? You have nothing vested in bringing people to SWTOR. You also obviously never lead a team or cared about anyone but yourself. Or you, like me, would be voicing your members concerns. Hoping against all odds, they will learn from past mistakes. Here's hoping, - Kismet

Your not seeing the big picture. This is the same thing GW2 did to people with HOT expansion. It Ticks people off, they don't want to play. Its like giving your player base the finger. My members in GW2 after the HOT expansion, just left. They didn't want to play anymore because the lost "Trust" in the gaming company. This is exactly whats going to happen here. You don't insult your player base and expect them to stick around, its just super short sighted, just to save face. They need to admit their mistake and they will get much more respect for that then doing what they have done in the past and Act like they know it all. - Kismet

Hi Bioware & EA, I have spent the last 8 months convincing my members to return to SWTOR. They are mostly now Subbed with a few on FTP. Quick backstory for perspective: We started at pre-launch of SWTOR > Got to 300 members > I went to the guild summit > you guys tanked the game > All but a few of my members unsubbed & left the game, including myself, despite enjoying the game. I go where my members want to go. Fast forward 3 years later Nov 2015: - The few still in SWTOR: "Hey Kismet they really are improving SWTOR we should give it another try." - Kismet: "Ok! Wow, they have really added a ton of content & stuff to do. I'll see if members want to play again" - 8 months of recalling members to SWTOR Now here we go again... You are TOTALLY TICKING OFF the community of players. APOLOGIZE for a poor idea and immediately cancel this event and rethink it. People are Un-Subbing & Leaving the game. They are Heated and Hot about this. Are you guys trying to tank the game? That is the only reason why you would force existing, invested, Subbed players to get 8 more slots to do this event. Sometimes YOU make a mistake. Own up to it and cancel this ASAP & Apologize, maybe some small token reward to loyal supporters of the game. Thats what a Man would do, "MAN UP" and admit ones mistakes. Your team has worked TOO HARD at adding content only to be stubborn "We know whats best". Believe me you don't because you would not of done this event if you did. Listen to your community and this will blow over and you can revamp the event to suit new & Long time players. I love what you have done in the game. Please, Please, Please learn from past mistakes. DON'T DO THIS! - Kismet Leader & Founder, Kismet, Ring of Destiny One of the longest running gaming guilds: 14+ years of fun, laughter & Teamwork. http://www.kismetbp.com Please Up-Vote/post on this thread so they can see this. Thanks!